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Bible Study mark of beast or anithcrist 666 what do you think
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Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, IF it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Col 3:12 . . . as the elect of God, holy and beloved, . . . (This is who we are in Christ thesaintman - such will not be deceived).
Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, IF it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Col 3:12 . . . as the elect of God, holy and beloved, . . . (This is who we are in Christ thesaintman - such will not be deceived).
King Dan of Great the 1st
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The only mark on the forehead and mark on the hand in multiple witness scripture was the Law that Jehova give.
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Chopper
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Dan, where are you getting your theology? You used to be quoting good Christian theology, but not now. You are not quoting any Scriptures now. If you're going to continue to post information, I would suggest that you back up your statements with God's holy Word to back up what you believe. Otherwise no one will believe you. I certainly don't!!
I am officially, as a bond slave of Christ Jesus, issuing you a rebuke in Jesus Name. Please Dan, In Christ I love you, and I believe you need to change where you are being deceived, and go to a good Bible teaching Church. Either Baptist of Pentecostal.
I am officially, as a bond slave of Christ Jesus, issuing you a rebuke in Jesus Name. Please Dan, In Christ I love you, and I believe you need to change where you are being deceived, and go to a good Bible teaching Church. Either Baptist of Pentecostal.
Chopper
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Ok Dan. Good move, you deleted what you posted, that I was upset with. So, be very careful that you don't attribute to God any evil. Like the Law of Moses, the 10 Commandments. The Law is not evil, or from Satan, as you have posted in the past. I worried about you Dan, I really am. You're a good guy, and I love you, but I fear that you are being deceived by some bad theology. BE CAREFUL BUDDY.
ezrider
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I have no idea what kiwidan wrote and has since deleted, but it sure seems to have gotten a rise. My guess is they just didn't understand what was said. It is part of our carnal nature that seeks to elevated the Law to a place it doesn't belong, and then they become defensive over any comment made about it. When they don't understand, then they accuses you of calling the law evil, because that is all they choose to hear. They fail to understand a very simple distinction when it comes to the LAW.
The LAW is NOT EVIL. The LAW is NOT from SATAN.
WE, the people with a carnal nature, influenced by the workings of Satan; WE USE the LAW for EVIL.
No different than a GUN is not evil, but some people USE guns FOR EVIL. Some people will glorify the gun no matter the evil it is used for, some people will continue to glorify the Law, not knowing that it is blinding them from knowing the Glory of the Lord.
The LAW is NOT EVIL. The LAW is NOT from SATAN.
WE, the people with a carnal nature, influenced by the workings of Satan; WE USE the LAW for EVIL.
No different than a GUN is not evil, but some people USE guns FOR EVIL. Some people will glorify the gun no matter the evil it is used for, some people will continue to glorify the Law, not knowing that it is blinding them from knowing the Glory of the Lord.
King Dan of Great the 1st
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Chopper I have faith in the gospel and dont deny Christ and his works. Thats where my salvation is. As for anything else I can only go from what the bible says.
Everything I did say had scripture behind it. There was nothing I said that didn't have scripture.
The Law to God is perfect. So because man cannot hold it the law to man is Sin.
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ezrider
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The Faith of Christ under the Law to God was perfect. To man, the faith of Christ was perfect, and leads to perfection.
The Law can NOT bring forth perfection in MAN, but man can be perfected in FAITH. The common denominator the leads towards perfection IS CHRIST. It CAN NOT be found in the LAW.
Nathan
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The law shows sin or sinlessness. It is perfect to both God and man.
It was given to man to show him the incapablity to not sin, and Christ fulfilled it to show sinlessness.
What's interesting is it was 'added' to the law of God shown in nature already. Like a tighter spotlight on the nation of Israel.
Those outside of Israel still had the law shown in nature to show there is a God. But God wanted to focus Israels attention even further.
I believe it is the same for those in Christ. The mark of the beast is the exact opposite of the mark of Christ in the believers life. God marks His children with faith, so the mark of the beast is faithlessness.
If your looking for a specific mark, something visual, then you can only see the the fruit of faith or faithlessness.
It was given to man to show him the incapablity to not sin, and Christ fulfilled it to show sinlessness.
What's interesting is it was 'added' to the law of God shown in nature already. Like a tighter spotlight on the nation of Israel.
Those outside of Israel still had the law shown in nature to show there is a God. But God wanted to focus Israels attention even further.
I believe it is the same for those in Christ. The mark of the beast is the exact opposite of the mark of Christ in the believers life. God marks His children with faith, so the mark of the beast is faithlessness.
If your looking for a specific mark, something visual, then you can only see the the fruit of faith or faithlessness.
King Dan of Great the 1st
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Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a mark upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.
Between the eyes is the forehead. And they used to literally stick the written law on there hand and forehead in babylon as a sign.
There is another verse says a similar thing. The law as a mark on hand and forehead.
Scripture does say the law is bound as a mark on the hand and forehead as a sign. But maybe it's only mans Law thats is the mark.
Remember everyone has the mark, free and bond. He cause all people to take the mark, free and bond.
Everything has come out of Babylon. It was the first major world trade and has consumed the entire earth. The King of Babylon is the god of this world.
Between the eyes is the forehead. And they used to literally stick the written law on there hand and forehead in babylon as a sign.
There is another verse says a similar thing. The law as a mark on hand and forehead.
Scripture does say the law is bound as a mark on the hand and forehead as a sign. But maybe it's only mans Law thats is the mark.
Remember everyone has the mark, free and bond. He cause all people to take the mark, free and bond.
Everything has come out of Babylon. It was the first major world trade and has consumed the entire earth. The King of Babylon is the god of this world.
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King Dan of Great the 1st
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Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon and everyone worshipped the image.
Then the herald loudly proclaimed, “Nations and peoples of every language, this is what you are commanded to do: As soon as you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe and all kinds of music, you must fall down and worship the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up.Whoever does not fall down and worship will immediately be thrown into a blazing furnace.”
There were only three people who didn't worship the image.
Then the herald loudly proclaimed, “Nations and peoples of every language, this is what you are commanded to do: As soon as you hear the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipe and all kinds of music, you must fall down and worship the image of gold that King Nebuchadnezzar has set up.Whoever does not fall down and worship will immediately be thrown into a blazing furnace.”
There were only three people who didn't worship the image.
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Nathan
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You gonna post it?
King Dan of Great the 1st
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Probably something to do with the weight of gold Solomon recieved each year as he sat on God's throne and exalted himself like the King of Babylon and made his throne of gold.
But there is a difference between 666 and six hundred, threescore, and six if calculating a number.
When are people going to understand no man sits on a throne, only God rules over his creation, and like Christ, a true King refuses the throne, and dwells with his people. Like Christ who would rather eat with sinners who he loves, than the self righteous who he still loved, but was angry in righteous anger.
Christ, the King of Kings, walked among the people and refused to be exalted above everyone as King, but lived as equals, and served, and cared for his people, like a real King does, and like what is the Kingdom of God.
But there is a difference between 666 and six hundred, threescore, and six if calculating a number.
When are people going to understand no man sits on a throne, only God rules over his creation, and like Christ, a true King refuses the throne, and dwells with his people. Like Christ who would rather eat with sinners who he loves, than the self righteous who he still loved, but was angry in righteous anger.
Christ, the King of Kings, walked among the people and refused to be exalted above everyone as King, but lived as equals, and served, and cared for his people, like a real King does, and like what is the Kingdom of God.
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daninthelionsden
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This is getting interesting
King Dan of Great the 1st
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The Law was against us. You can never be righteous under the rule of law. Its the Serpants fruit.
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
What did Jesus say on the Cross, 'It is finished'.
Jesus is truth. Nothing can stop anyone from finding the Kingdom of God within, nothing ever did stop, except the Law.
Christ and his Father do not judge anyone on how righteous or sinful they are.
As Christ said
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to."
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
What did Jesus say on the Cross, 'It is finished'.
Jesus is truth. Nothing can stop anyone from finding the Kingdom of God within, nothing ever did stop, except the Law.
Christ and his Father do not judge anyone on how righteous or sinful they are.
As Christ said
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to."
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JohnDB
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And maybe compare the Law for the King of Israel with how Solomon made all those talents of gold each year.
Blatant defiance of God's laws as a lifestyle and expecting God to forgive you...Kinda an obvious thing but it would appear that this is the reference.
And today it's getting more difficult to not endorse sin as a side note while in business. From the health insurance an employer provides to company policies...It's very difficult. Hobby Lobby is one of the hold outs. Chik Filet is another.
It's here...And nobody paid attention because it wasn't done in secret but out in the open. Everyone seems to accept these things and believes their own hands are clean. But we own these insurance companies and the ones that do this through our retirement funds in mutual funds.
Kinda one of them things that no one likes and everyone believes in their own innocence. And no one snowflake feels responsible for the avalanche.
King Dan of Great the 1st
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What Law does not get broken and how has the Law helped mankind.
Knowledge has helped mankind, not the law.
The Serpants fruit, the rule of Law, has created a very very dark world.
Christ just walked with God and done no wrong because he had full knowledge.
Knowledge has helped mankind, not the law.
The Serpants fruit, the rule of Law, has created a very very dark world.
Christ just walked with God and done no wrong because he had full knowledge.
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th1b.taylor
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Ouch! The Mosaic Law, the Ten Commandments, is a word picture of the the most beautiful person to walk on the Earth, Jesus, the Son of God.
Nathan
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The law has "helped" mankind in exactly the way it was intended. It shows the righteousness, holiness, and justness of God. And on the flip side it shows man's total depravity.
Without the law it would be conceivable of man to think he could be good enough for God. With it, we know we are not. Therefore, without the law mankind would have no hope.