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This map shows that in the history of the Earth there was the cubic dilatation, and "the dry land " (Gen. 1:10) which was called "Earth" was broken on parts.

When did it happen?
 
I think the earth was 'broken up' after the flood. That is when the fountains of the deep opened up. I think your photo above might just show this.
 
I would say that the "broken apart" happened when the water receded. Soil was moved to locations all over the world that wasn't there before. Animals that died, their bones were fossilized under the tremendous pressure exerted on them as they settled in various location not native to their original habitat.

I can only imagine the force of power that was forced on planet earth's crust as the waters receded. That pressure broke up the land as you have noted kc1. Thank you for the interesting map. Can I expect further posts concerning the early earth?
 
I would say that the "broken apart" happened when the water receded. Soil was moved to locations all over the world that wasn't there before. Animals that died, their bones were fossilized under the tremendous pressure exerted on them as they settled in various location not native to their original habitat.

I can only imagine the force of power that was forced on planet earth's crust as the waters receded. That pressure broke up the land as you have noted kc1. Thank you for the interesting map. Can I expect further posts concerning the early earth?
Actually, we can calculate the pressure. It is exactly .433 psi for every foot of water. Multiply that by the highest mountain and then maybe divide by 2(just a thought thrown out) and you can get an idea of the average pressure on the earths crust.
 
I think the earth was 'broken up' after the flood. That is when the fountains of the deep opened up. I think your photo above might just show this.
Hi, Nathan. The ‘fountains of the great deep’ (Gen.7:11 ) were 'broken up' in the beginning of the flood, but not after .
 
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Actually, we can calculate the pressure. It is exactly .433 psi for every foot of water. Multiply that by the highest mountain and then maybe divide by 2(just a thought thrown out) and you can get an idea of the average pressure on the earths crust.
The water pressure from above was really huge, but the pressure from below, from inside the Earth was even greater.

At the beginning of the flood, there was a great earthquake, which became a catalyst for the chemical reaction in the bowels of the Earth. The products of this reaction are water and silicon hydride, and a large amount of heat is also released. At a pressure of several tens of thousands of atmospheres, the water is in a liquid state even at a temperature of one and a half thousand degrees. But as the water approaches from the depths to the Earth's surface, the pressure decreases and a moment comes when the hot liquid turns into gas, and an explosion occurs, as the volume of water increases 600 time.
 
I would say that the "broken apart" happened when the water receded. Soil was moved to locations all over the world that wasn't there before. Animals that died, their bones were fossilized under the tremendous pressure exerted on them as they settled in various location not native to their original habitat.

I can only imagine the force of power that was forced on planet earth's crust as the waters receded. That pressure broke up the land as you have noted kc1. Thank you for the interesting map. Can I expect further posts concerning the early earth?
Hi, Chopper.

The mid-Atlantic ridge, which is located on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, is a former line of rupture. Such lines of rupture exist all over the Earth's surface, or more precisely, such ridges are on the bottom of the oceans. These lines of rupture are former ‘the fountains of the great deep’ (Gen.7:11 ).
 
Hi, Chopper.

The mid-Atlantic ridge, which is located on the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, is a former line of rupture. Such lines of rupture exist all over the Earth's surface, or more precisely, such ridges are on the bottom of the oceans. These lines of rupture are former ‘the fountains of the great deep’ (Gen.7:11 ).

Hi kc1. Thank you for the info that you've sent here. I'm very interested in our early earth. I'm a member of the "Institute for Creation Research" You can find it at www.icr.org I was fortunate enough to hear Dr. Morris in Portland, Maine in the 70s. That's when most of the Genesis account of creation, the flood, and other facts on the early earth became a study more many years.

Any information that you might send our way will be studied for sure. Recently I heard that radiocarbon dating can't prove an old earth. Do you have any comments? The age of the earth has always been a big question mark in my mind.
 
Hi kc1. Thank you for the info that you've sent here. I'm very interested in our early earth. I'm a member of the "Institute for Creation Research" You can find it at www.icr.org I was fortunate enough to hear Dr. Morris in Portland, Maine in the 70s. That's when most of the Genesis account of creation, the flood, and other facts on the early earth became a study more many years.

Any information that you might send our way will be studied for sure. Recently I heard that radiocarbon dating can't prove an old earth. Do you have any comments? The age of the earth has always been a big question mark in my mind.
Hi, Chopper. Thanks for your message.

The radiocarbon method for measuring the age of an object is not scientific. For example: three dimensions of the age of the Shroud of Turin gave a total measurement error of hundreds of percent. Can such a method be scientific?
'According to Christopher Ramsey of the Oxford Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit in 2011, "there are various hypotheses as to why the dates might not be correct, but none of them stack up.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin

The dates of the most important events are indicated in the Bible without error, both past and future events. The year before the Flood had 360 days. The month had 30 days respectively. That is, the prophetic year coincided with the solar one. All the prophecies of the Bible are counted in prophetic years.
 
Hi, Chopper. Thanks for your message.

The radiocarbon method for measuring the age of an object is not scientific. For example: three dimensions of the age of the Shroud of Turin gave a total measurement error of hundreds of percent. Can such a method be scientific?
'According to Christopher Ramsey of the Oxford Radiocarbon Accelerator Unit in 2011, "there are various hypotheses as to why the dates might not be correct, but none of them stack up.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shroud_of_Turin

The dates of the most important events are indicated in the Bible without error, both past and future events. The year before the Flood had 360 days. The month had 30 days respectively. That is, the prophetic year coincided with the solar one. All the prophecies of the Bible are counted in prophetic years.

Thank you my friend for your reply. I was particularly interested in what John Calvin had to say about the Shroud....
John Calvin
In 1543 John Calvin, in his Treatise on Relics, wrote of the shroud, which was then at Nice (it was moved to Turin in 1578), "How is it possible that those sacred historians, who carefully related all the miracles that took place at Christ's death, should have omitted to mention one so remarkable as the likeness of the body of our Lord remaining on its wrapping sheet?" In an interpretation of the Gospel of John[20:6–7] Calvin concluded that strips of linen were used to cover the body (excluding the head) and a separate cloth to cover the head.[55] He then stated that "either St. John is a liar," or else anyone who promotes such a shroud is "convicted of falsehood and deceit".[55]

O well, so much for the Shroud, actually, I've always believed that it was some kind of fake.
 
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Thank you my friend for your reply. I was particularly interested in what John Calvin had to say about the Shroud....
John Calvin
In 1543 John Calvin, in his Treatise on Relics, wrote of the shroud, which was then at Nice (it was moved to Turin in 1578), "How is it possible that those sacred historians, who carefully related all the miracles that took place at Christ's death, should have omitted to mention one so remarkable as the likeness of the body of our Lord remaining on its wrapping sheet?" In an interpretation of the Gospel of John[20:6–7] Calvin concluded that strips of linen were used to cover the body (excluding the head) and a separate cloth to cover the head.[55] He then stated that "either St. John is a liar," or else anyone who promotes such a shroud is "convicted of falsehood and deceit".[55]

O well, so much for the Shroud, actually, I've always believed that it was some kind of fake.
Yes, of course, this is a fake, but I put emphasis on the method of radiocarbon analysis.
 
Yes, of course, this is a fake, but I put emphasis on the method of radiocarbon analysis.
Thank you again for your reply. Can you please give me a kc1 understanding of what radiocarbon analysis is? I believe that you have revived my old studies in the early earth and other facts that tend to bring out Biblical Truth in Genesis.
 
In the Genesis record we have one guy recorded who's name is Peleg. The clause after his name explains that the Earth was divided. 10:25

But divisions of territories were already in existence. So...I'm thinking that this is the point in which this happened.

I like the pics.
 
Thank you again for your reply. Can you please give me a kc1 understanding of what radiocarbon analysis is? I believe that you have revived my old studies in the early earth and other facts that tend to bring out Biblical Truth in Genesis.
The method of radiocarbon dating is described here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiocarbon_dating , but this method is not scientific.

The age of this Earth is already given in the first verses of Genesis prophetically (Gen.1-2) Seven days here it is seven thousand years, because ‘one day is with the Lord as a thousand yeeres, and a thousand yeeres as one day’ (2Pet.3:8) . The last day is a day of rest, there ‘remaineth therefore a rest’(Heb.4:9) to the Israel of God. That is the Millennium. In addition, one can calculate the literal age of the Earth from Adam to Jesus Christ according to the ‘book of the generation of Jesus Christ’ (Matt.1:1). It's four thousand years.
 
In the Genesis record we have one guy recorded who's name is Peleg. The clause after his name explains that the Earth was divided. 10:25

But divisions of territories were already in existence. So...I'm thinking that this is the point in which this happened.

I like the pics.
Notice, at first ‘all the fountains of the great deep’ (Gen.7:11) were broken up. Billions of tons of hot lava began to fly in the atmosphere because there were the explosions of water vapor. The upper part of the mid-Atlantic ridge was precisely this line of rupture. As we see in the map, this line repeats the contours of South America and Africa. Now let's find out why this line is so far removed from the coasts of Africa and from the shores of South America. When the pressure of hot magma, mixed with water vapor, split the dry land, which was called Earth on four smaller continents, hot magma, mixed with hot steam, flowed from these cracks. The density of the Earth's matter began to decrease rapidly, and the volume of the Earth was also increasing rapidly, the newly formed continents began to swim across the surface of the swelling Earth. The water vapor began to condense in the atmosphere, so ‘the windows of heaven were opened’ (Gen.7:11) and it began to rain. As the water on the Earth became more and more, explosions of hot water vapor began to occur not in the atmosphere, but under water. A lava flowed from the mid-Atlantic ridge even under water. The greatest activity of the chemical reaction within the Earth lasted one hundred and fifty days, so 'the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days' (Gen.7:24). As the chemical reaction faded, water began to escape from the face of the Earth into huge reservoirs beneath the surface of the earth formed as a result of water vapor explosions. The bottom of the oceans is the new surface of the Earth that appeared during the Flood. The thickness of the bottom of the oceans is, on average, 10 km, the thickness of the continents is tens of times greater.

This is what happened during the Flood.


Now, as for the verse (Gen. 10:25)


Immediately after the Flood, the activity of the processes inside the Earth was still quite high, so there was rising up or going down of individual parts of the Earth's surface. After the flood before the days of Peleg, there were stripes of land from one continent to another. In this way, people and animals settled on all continents. This time took about 350 years. Then, these strips of land between the continents went under the water in the days of Peleg. Thus the Earth was divided (Gen.10:25).
 
I want to thank you kc1 for your sudden appearance here a week ago Wednesday. I believe, in my spirit, that I've not encountered a man more knowledgeable than you, in these things that we are learning from you. You appear to have an education far exceeding my own in area's of the early earth. Would you be willing to share about said education? If not, I fully understand.

I myself, because of the sin of pride, have not disclosed some of my education. Just enough to let those I counsel/teach have confidence in what I present them.

Please know that I feel that my good friend Nathan as well as I am so grateful for you're teachings and look forward to much more from you. So, thank you for blessing us with your wonderful fellowship here at CF.net. We love you in Christ Jesus.
 
Notice, at first ‘all the fountains of the great deep’ (Gen.7:11) were broken up. Billions of tons of hot lava began to fly in the atmosphere because there were the explosions of water vapor. The upper part of the mid-Atlantic ridge was precisely this line of rupture. As we see in the map, this line repeats the contours of South America and Africa. Now let's find out why this line is so far removed from the coasts of Africa and from the shores of South America. When the pressure of hot magma, mixed with water vapor, split the dry land, which was called Earth on four smaller continents, hot magma, mixed with hot steam, flowed from these cracks. The density of the Earth's matter began to decrease rapidly, and the volume of the Earth was also increasing rapidly, the newly formed continents began to swim across the surface of the swelling Earth. The water vapor began to condense in the atmosphere, so ‘the windows of heaven were opened’ (Gen.7:11) and it began to rain. As the water on the Earth became more and more, explosions of hot water vapor began to occur not in the atmosphere, but under water. A lava flowed from the mid-Atlantic ridge even under water. The greatest activity of the chemical reaction within the Earth lasted one hundred and fifty days, so 'the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days' (Gen.7:24). As the chemical reaction faded, water began to escape from the face of the Earth into huge reservoirs beneath the surface of the earth formed as a result of water vapor explosions. The bottom of the oceans is the new surface of the Earth that appeared during the Flood. The thickness of the bottom of the oceans is, on average, 10 km, the thickness of the continents is tens of times greater.

This is what happened during the Flood.


Now, as for the verse (Gen. 10:25)


Immediately after the Flood, the activity of the processes inside the Earth was still quite high, so there was rising up or going down of individual parts of the Earth's surface. After the flood before the days of Peleg, there were stripes of land from one continent to another. In this way, people and animals settled on all continents. This time took about 350 years. Then, these strips of land between the continents went under the water in the days of Peleg. Thus the Earth was divided (Gen.10:25).

Just out of curiosity...
Kurt Wise has some very interesting and logical science concerning Floating Forests and The Garden in Eden.

What's your take on his research?
 
I want to thank you kc1 for your sudden appearance here a week ago Wednesday. I believe, in my spirit, that I've not encountered a man more knowledgeable than you, in these things that we are learning from you. You appear to have an education far exceeding my own in area's of the early earth. Would you be willing to share about said education? If not, I fully understand.

I myself, because of the sin of pride, have not disclosed some of my education. Just enough to let those I counsel/teach have confidence in what I present them.

Please know that I feel that my good friend Nathan as well as I am so grateful for you're teachings and look forward to much more from you. So, thank you for blessing us with your wonderful fellowship here at CF.net. We love you in Christ Jesus.
Thank you, Chopper. I'm glad that I can communicate with you here. I do not have a special education. We live in the period of information technology. All information is on the Internet. You just need to know what you need to take. The main thing is the trust to the Bible, like the prophetic word of God.
 
Just out of curiosity...
Kurt Wise has some very interesting and logical science concerning Floating Forests and The Garden in Eden.

What's your take on his research?
Hi, JohnDB. I heard about it, but I have not read it yet.
 
Hi, Nathan. The ‘fountains of the great deep’ (Gen.7:11 ) were 'broken up' in the beginning of the flood, but not after .

I went out of town right after you started this neat thread. Figured I'd bring it back up the list. :)

I believe that the earth was solid and when the fountains opened up it started the process of the continent separating. Then, as the water receded, it finished the process. If you have ever sat and studied a lake shore or stream you can see this in a smaller form.

Where I was this weekend is way out in the Ozark mountains of Arkansas. It just so happened that we had a flood 'event' happen while I was there. But I have always been enamored with all the 'benches' and 'valleys' in the mountains. I can visually see how the whole place would have been covered in water, and just as it creates these 'benches' and 'valleys' on the lake shore, after a high water event, you can see how these land features were made by the flood.

As the waters washed back and forth they created the benches, and as they receded they created the valleys. Its so obvious when you look at a topographical map, and then relate how water effects dirt/rocks, it just pops out at you.

Best way to see this visually, if you do not live by a lake that see's significant water level changes, is to make a model for yourself.

Take a big plastic tub, fill it half way with sand, rocks, gravel, dirt, etc. Then spray a water hose into it and fill it all the way up. Then poke a few holes in just a few different places on the bottom. Then just lightly move it back and forth while the water runs out.

Peter gives us this clear fact in describing the people of our 'end time' in relation to the first time the earth was destroyed. He was of course not writing this so we could understand how the land masses came to be formed, but through this passage we can see that it was indeed the means God used to create them - not a shifting of the plates and slow spread of land masses.

2Pe 3:5-6
For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished.
 
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