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Soul man

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God would depend on His own nature, Christ in us, as the means of saving us. This was the most important thing the Father ever did.
Saving mankind by placing another person in them was to accomplish the two greatest demands to God’s justice. The creature was to remain a free moral person to make an open decision for God, and upon the creature’s decision, God would place the kind of nature in him that God could depend on.
That nature, or spirit, would be a person, Christ. It would be the birthing of that Son in us that would be our salvation. Thus, salvation would never become a thing.
Salvation was to be a person, a new person operating out of the creature for the glory of God. Salvation was never intended by God to be incorporated with other things to make it complete.
It was to be a personal act by God who would place His own seed in the believer and, by that, conceive another person as that believer. All of the rites and doctrines of man, whether baptism, acts of
righteousness, affiliations or good works, would have no place in adding to this initial act of birthing.
Sad to say, these works of man would become more prominent in men’s minds than the birthing miracle to the extent that multitudes today are churched, sanctified and even go into a ministry without understanding that they are saved by another person in them, Romans 5:10, and only by that person in them.
All of the other things the church, preacher or doctrines do must be secondary to this salvation provided by God alone.
The people of the new creation will no longer tolerate a watered down gospel that denies the heart of the Scriptures, a people who are consistently dedicated to God’s eternal plan of salvation by another person.
All over the earth, it is as if the Father has said that a time is at hand that in the church there will be a people who see the ultimate of God.
 
Soul man said:
Salvation was to be a person, a new person operating out of the creature for the glory of God. Salvation was never intended by God to be incorporated with other things to make it complete.
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Morning Brother Soul man. I wonder at this probably because I believe in dispensations, and think that every part of what occurred was not only known beforehand, but used in God's illustration of showing man what he really was.

For instance, Act 15:18 Known unto God are all His works from the beginning of the world.
Mat 25:34 . . . . Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

And there is more, but what do you think? :wave2
 
Eugene said:
Morning Brother Soul man. I wonder at this probably because I believe in dispensations, and think that every part of what occurred was not only known beforehand, but used in God's illustration of showing man what he really was.

For instance, Act 15:18 Known unto God are all His works from the beginning of the world.
Mat 25:34 . . . . Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

And there is more, but what do you think? :wave2
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Yes, I believe in the different dispensations as well.
The all important scripture you quote from, Eph. 1:4, I see as Gods ultimate intention.
For myself, seeing the ultimate intention of God, put all other dispensations in proper perspective.
Example; Understanding Old Testament types and shadows, and how extensive it is to show us Christ.
But I see in creation and the Old Testament, basically God could not get what He wanted out of the creature.
Satan had failed, he was placed as a son (son of the morning), there was no birthing, he was created.
Adam could not fulfill what God wanted, Abraham, Moses, David, no one could give the Father what He wanted.
So, Eph. 1:4, tells us His plan was already in place before creation.
That means before anything was created, even Satan or Adam, there was a plan in place.
He wanted sons like unto His Only Son.
The love and Glory they shared before anything, that is what He gets in Christ.
So the OT is God showing man in himself could not give the Father what He wanted, reciprocating love.
It really is that simple, the knowledge of good and evil is still the main issue for the believer. So, we have a schoolhouse, called the world and out of the world the Father gets what He wants.
 
Salvation means to be whole mind, body and soul as we surrender our will to God and allow his will to work in our lives by applying Gods word to every aspect of our lives. This allows us to know the mind of Christ and all the promises of God for our own well being so we can face anything that tries to come against us while here on this earth so we can triumph and be victorious through the grace and mercy of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus. Grace pardons us and mercy loves us unconditionally.
Colossians Chapter 3 gives great insight of the new creation in Christ.
 
Soul man said:
God would depend on His own nature, Christ in us, as the means of saving us. This was the most important thing the Father ever did.
Saving mankind by placing another person in them was to accomplish the two greatest demands to God’s justice. The creature was to remain a free moral person to make an open decision for God, and upon the creature’s decision, God would place the kind of nature in him that God could depend on.
That nature, or spirit, would be a person, Christ. It would be the birthing of that Son in us that would be our salvation. Thus, salvation would never become a thing.
Salvation was to be a person, a new person operating out of the creature for the glory of God. Salvation was never intended by God to be incorporated with other things to make it complete.
It was to be a personal act by God who would place His own seed in the believer and, by that, conceive another person as that believer. All of the rites and doctrines of man, whether baptism, acts of
righteousness, affiliations or good works, would have no place in adding to this initial act of birthing.
Sad to say, these works of man would become more prominent in men’s minds than the birthing miracle to the extent that multitudes today are churched, sanctified and even go into a ministry without understanding that they are saved by another person in them, Romans 5:10, and only by that person in them.
All of the other things the church, preacher or doctrines do must be secondary to this salvation provided by God alone.
The people of the new creation will no longer tolerate a watered down gospel that denies the heart of the Scriptures, a people who are consistently dedicated to God’s eternal plan of salvation by another person.
All over the earth, it is as if the Father has said that a time is at hand that in the church there will be a people who see the ultimate of God.
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This is awesome!
My understanding also about the new creation is, obviously we are a new creation because never before has there been a creation where the person has been crucified and it is Christ who lives in us!
It is a miracle creation!
 
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