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  1. handy

    How About Something Interesting for a Change?

    One quick point and then I truly do have to get other things done in my life today. Sheesh... I am now remembering why I took a "break" from this forum for awhile. I wind up spending far too much time on my pc. :oops2 That "quick point" though refers to this:
  2. handy

    Is the Trinity biblical and does it matter?

    I admittedly need all the clarification I can get. From what I've read of his statements, it seemed as though he is stating that Jesus is the Son of God, but not God the Son. So... are we then discussing the supposition that there is more than one God?
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    Is the Trinity biblical and does it matter?

    Guess I'll jump in. Let's get some of the more obvious Scriptures on the table: John 1 I'm sure you're familiar with the passage, the Word was with God and the Word was God and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Also Hebrews 1:8 "of the Son, He says 'Thy throne O God' is forever and...
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    How About Something Interesting for a Change?

    So we don't just continue on a merry-go-round of me speaking of our eternal, perfected selves, and you pulling texts that are in reference to our current, non-glorified state (in which we are, of course, dependent on His mercy)... Let's look at this: The meal you referenced was that of the...
  5. handy

    How About Something Interesting for a Change?

    I would be interested to see the text that is the foundation for this assertion. After all... He tolerated the angels and yet show them no mercy whatsoever. Well.... extremely enjoyable conversation and study. Time for me to get off the ole' pc, but I'll check in tomorrow!
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    How About Something Interesting for a Change?

    Maybe it would be helpful if you could show some texts that gives examples of God's mercy to those in a perfected state. Because naturally, all in a fallen state need God's mercy and those in a state of grace (that's us) need mercy to remain in that state. Where is the teaching that those who...
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    How About Something Interesting for a Change?

    I do see what you're saying... I truly do. I just think that you are underestimating the completed work that we will be once we enter into eternity. Let me ask you this: Was God needing mercy to tolerate Adam prior to Adam's sin? Or did He walk and talk with Adam on a daily basis in full...
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    How About Something Interesting for a Change?

    We're not ever going to be Big G God... but Jesus commanded that we be perfect. (Matt 5:48) As a matter of fact, that is the full purpose of our Gospel to the world and our ministry to each other, that we be perfect in Christ. Colossians 1:25-28 The word here for perfect is teleios, which means...
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    How About Something Interesting for a Change?

    I certainly agree with this. And I also see... as I stated before, that in eternity, we will be in an eternal state of mercy as opposed to "needing" mercy. If we are in the New Heaven and Earth... residing in the New Jerusalem, then all sin will be forever wiped away due to God's mercy. To my...
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    How About Something Interesting for a Change?

    lol... no, I wouldn't consider that at all. Glad you don't see it that way.. I'd begin to worry about you! :lol Not necessarily. If my children were fully free of sin and have nothing unclean in them, then what need would there be of mercy? and nothing unclean, and no one who practices...
  11. handy

    all is quiet on the western front

    My deepest gratitude to all who have served.
  12. handy

    How About Something Interesting for a Change?

    You're right... it is interesting to contemplate!
  13. handy

    How About Something Interesting for a Change?

    I think I'd like to see some scripture that will back up your inferences here. Keep in mind, my main thought is not on this side of the veil.. but in eternity. The heaven and earth that we now have will be gone, as will sin and death. So... while we will be in a state of mercy, we will have no...
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    How About Something Interesting for a Change?

    If your premise is that we will always be in need of God's mercy, for all eternity, then I'd like to see some scriptures to back that up. In eternity, the "first things have passed away." So, while we will be forever in a state of mercy, I don't see us in a need for mercy.
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    Not The Same God

    Amen, indeed! This has been an interesting thread and much truth has been shared in it... One random thought that came to me about whether or not we worship the same God as Muslims and the Jews who do not worship Christ is this .... and bear with me here... we humans share about 96% of DNA with...
  16. handy

    Who's your favorite singer?

    So hard to pick a favorite when it comes to Johnny Cash, but I think his version of "Hurt" touches my spirit the most.
  17. handy

    paranoid?

    What you said here: "I'm only now definitely, for realises recovering from everything, so its kind of hard for me to read people like I imagine most people can" is pretty key. Accurately reading people takes time and practice...something you're just now starting to do....and most of us never...
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    Who's your favorite singer?

    Absolutely, U2 is Christian! I find U2 to have some of the most gut-wrenching honest Christian lyrics of any group. Though it's one of their older songs, "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" remains one of my favorites. Compare these lines: I believe in the Kingdom Come When all the...
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    Adam and Eve 'amongst' the first humans?

    I was going to hit a "like" button, but I couldn't find one.... but very good, Oz! :thumbsup You stated exactly what I was thinking up to the various texts you shared. I do think there is some room in Genesis for an older earth and for the days of creation being longer than 24 hours, however...
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    Who's your favorite singer?

    I'm like Jason... I like so many different genres of music, it's hard for me to say which singer would be my favorite. I will say that one singer who had the purest voice and gave the world some mighty fine music was Julie Andrews. And although she didn't end well, while she was on top of her...