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Aren't you the one who removed one of my posts for being critical of a poster? Kind of hypocritical don't you think? Aren't you the guy who didn't even know that Melchizedek was a New Testament doctrine . . . the guy who cannot discern that there are two separate harvests in Revelation 14?
"Behold, the Lord came with MANY THOUSANDS of His holy ones to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him." Jude 14, 15
But Messiah has come already here in Revelation 14 just as it prophecied since the time of Enoc (Jude 1:14), landing right on Mt Zion, just as the angels foretold the disciples in Acts 1:11 together with His Holy Ones (the 144,000). Revelation 19 is not the second coming, it is the fulfillment...
The wine is in reference to the second harvest in Rev 17-20. The first harvest in Rev 14:14-16 is the wheat harvest Messiah is speaking of in Matthew 13:24-30
We see Messiah return to Mt Zion in Revelation 14:1 with His Holy Ones - Job 5:1, Ps. 89:5 & 7, Dan. 4:13 & 8:13, Matt. 24:31, & 25:31 and Jude 14”
And we see the destruction of the antichrist in Revelation 13
All of this before the rapture of Revelation 14:14-16
There are two separate harvests here in Revelation 14:14-20, hawkman. After Messiah has returned to earth in Rev 14:1 for his second coming, together with the 144,000; and the antichrist has made his appearance in Revelation 13, it is time for the rapture. Revelation 14:14-20 is the wheat and...
Those who hold the pre-tribulation rapture position, usually site 1 Thessalonians 5:9 "For God has not destined us for wrath, but for obtaining salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ" But this verse cannot possibly refer to Christians suffering here on earth, because Christians have been...
You have asked this question already and I said yes - yes I have had visions from God. And I was completely transported in the spirit. But still not the point! This is the description of being caught up in the spirit within the scripture. John is called up into Heaven by the glorified Messiah in...
For those interested in the topic of The Heavenly Tabernacle, I've put a mindmap together of many of the verses on the following sub-topics:
- Messiah and the Earthly Temple
- Ecclesia's destiny is the Tabernacle
- Elements of Temple / Tabernacle in Revelation
- 10 Celebrations of Worship in...
John sees the angels at the 4 corners of the earth because he is in Heaven! The dialogue that then transpires between these angels at the 4 corners of the earth and the angel that commanded them was clearly in Heaven because the angel that had commanded them ascended from the rising of the sun...
Well, we know the narrator John is in Heaven - Rev 4:1
We know that the great multitude which no one could count is in Heaven - 7:14
We know that the angels who were standing around the throne and the elders are in Heaven - Rev 7:11
And . . . we know that God on His Thrown is in Heaven - Rev...
The 144,000 may have been tasked with evangelizing the earth, but there is nothing in the text of Revelation that would suggest this. Certainly, there is no literary tie between the 144,000 and the multitudes of saints that came out of the Tribulation in Revelation 7:9, 10. Both of these groups...
I understand - I was indifferent for many years in my walk with Messiah. But the Book of Revelation is the only book in scripture that promises blessing (Revelation 1:3) "Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of the prophecy, and heed the things which are written in it; for the...
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