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The issue is not abortion. The issue is Christians getting into bed with dishonest and corrupt people. Tying the abortion issue to a corrupt man just puts dirt on the pro-life position. If I don't support a liar for president, then I am not pro-life? I thought the pro-life side was better than...
You are saying that you are not going to start bashing political parties WHILE you are bashing a political party!
Neither political party is for legalized abortion up til the moment of birth, but I think you know that.
I'm just saying that people should vote for someone who reflects their...
I agree. I am recommending using discernment. People should consider how their vote affects their credibility. If a Christian's credibility is lost because they are defending Trump's indecency, then what happens when they try to talk to someone about God? Why should anyone listen then? Great...
The "crowd" of Christians fully supports Donald Trump. 81%.
You try to keep your reputation by going with THAT crowd. Supporting indecency does NOT bring glory to God. Exactly the opposite. I would rather lose my reputation with Trumpchristians by standing up for what is right than gain...
I can understand being prolife and voting that way. I just can't understand being proud of voting for Trump considering everything else that he does. If this were really the reason you are voting for Trump, why not just vote and then keep your vote quiet? Why do so many Trump-christians claim...
Well said. And if you believe that Donald Trump best represents your values, you should absolutely vote for Trump, no matter what it does to your reputation as a Christian.
Then why do Christians get into bed with them? Particularly this one, (who does things that I won't even mention)
And they are proud of it?
And they accuse people of not even being Christian if they don't also get into bed with this one?
They claim (with their votes) that this person best...
The United States is a "Democratic Republic."
When we vote, we are voting for someone to represent us in government. If a candidate is immoral and "has too many flaws to list" and a Christian decides that this person best represents them, isn't there something wrong there?
A person is still free to accept Christ or reject him.
When Jesus said "you shall die in your sins", it was not coercion. A person is still free to believe or disbelieve.
They have more facts to make an intelligent decision after he told them what would happen, but nobody was forced in either...
Having Free Will means being able to make a decision freely without coercion. We are free to accept God or reject God. It is not ambiguous at all.
Here is the dictionary definition of free-will:
the power of acting without the constraint of necessity or fate; the ability to act at one's own...
It isn't heresy to believe what the Bible says. Do you deny that the Bible says "The wages of sin is death" and "whoever believes in him shall not perish"?
Do you really believe that Jesus taught more of Hell than He did of Heaven? Oh my. Have you looked for yourself or are you just quoting...
I thought that the doctrine of Hell was not allowed to be discussed on christianforums.net.
I'm glad that we can discuss this again, because it is a very important subject. According to the Bible the wages of sin is death, not eternal conscious torment in hell. (Romans 6:23, plus the entire rest...
Psalm 83 doesn't say anyone goes to hell. It says "Yea, let them be put to shame, and perish".
Psalm 83:17 KJV
So 2 Peter 3:9 makes perfect sense:
The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all...
It seems that it is best to not think about it. John Stott said that he could "not understand how people can live with it without either cauterising their feelings or cracking under the strain." It's swept under the rug, we don't have to think about it. Every once in a while a visitor comes...
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