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  1. Gregg

    When does God put souls into bodies?

    Yes I am aware. (Edited, ToS 2.4, trolling. Obadiah) (Edited. Failure to follow a moderators instructions in this thread and A&T guideline: "Subsequent opposing responses should include references to supportive scripture relevant to the thread and offer explanation for the contrary...
  2. Gregg

    When does God put souls into bodies?

    'And may the God of peace Himself fully sanctify you, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ' (1Thes 5:23 LITV).
  3. Gregg

    When does God put souls into bodies?

    Because someone is unaware of a purpose, does not exclude that there is a purpose. I can not answer your question because I lack an answer, as do you. You see chronological order; I see statements that may be simultaneous events. I am opposed to any approach to abortion, casual or otherwise...
  4. Gregg

    When does God put souls into bodies?

    Can of worms, bro!
  5. Gregg

    When does God put souls into bodies?

    We know the LORD's sequence; He pre-existed His body of flesh. But we do not know the order [if any, as it may be simultaneous] that the LORD created Adams constituent parts. He could have created his soul and spirit when He formed Adam from the dust but before He breathed into him, or He could...
  6. Gregg

    When does God put souls into bodies?

    We can agree that the LORD formed a body of flesh for the Son of God, and certainly the Son of God existed before His physical body. But regarding Adam, there is no indication that God created Adam's soul and spirit before creating His body. The first and Last Adam are unique to all others. Why...
  7. Gregg

    When does God put souls into bodies?

    I haven't seen the item you mentioned, but have probably seen many pictures like them.
  8. Gregg

    When does God put souls into bodies?

    Take Lk 1:44 as you may, but it was the babe that leaped, not Elizabeth; and it was John who exulted, not Elizabeth. John was filled with the Holy Spirit while yet unborn physically (Lk 1:15). I am concerned that your point of view regarding life, that it begins at birth and not at conception...
  9. Gregg

    When does God put souls into bodies?

    "For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar, to atone for your souls; for it is the blood which makes atonement for the soul" (Lev 17:11 LITV). This verse looked forward to Jesus Christ shedding His physical blood. It is no irony that we have spiritual...
  10. Gregg

    When does God put souls into bodies?

    I believe that someone is a living being even as an embryo or fetus. John the Baptist expressed emotion or worship while yet unborn. "For behold, as the sound of your greeting came to my ears, the babe in my womb leaped in exultation" (Luk 1:44 LITV). Jeremiah was consecrated before being born...
  11. Gregg

    When does God put souls into bodies?

    A couple of things to consider: When God breathed into Adam the "breath of life" it may have been a literal breath [mostly nitrogen and oxygen] to animate his body of flesh. "For the life of the flesh is in the blood . . ." (Lev 17:11 LITV). Although Lev 17:11 references animal flesh, the...
  12. Gregg

    Is Jesus Christ in the flesh?

    "So as we now know no one according to flesh, but even if we have known Christ according to flesh, yet now we no longer know Him so. So that if anyone is in Christ, that one is a new creation; the old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new!" (2Cor 5:16-17 LITV). .
  13. Gregg

    What does the Word say about the Law of YHWH which, in reality, is the Law of Moses?

    To bring post #293 to its conclusion: the Son of God, the LORD Jesus Christ, is Lord of the Sabbath (Mat 12:8). The Son of God rested with the Father after creating the cosmos; and the LORD Jesus Christ rested with the Father on the Sabbath after the Crucifixion, making possible a new creation...
  14. Gregg

    What does the Word say about the Law of YHWH which, in reality, is the Law of Moses?

    I would ask the moderators to allow Jocor the greatest possible leniency in responding to this line of reasoning. to which you replied: Because you do not recognize the LORD Jesus Christ as our God and Creator (Jn 1:3, Heb 1:2, Col 1:16, Isa 40:12,45:12), you can not understand that the Son of...
  15. Gregg

    What does the Word say about the Law of YHWH which, in reality, is the Law of Moses?

    True. But the standard by which those works will be considered will be Christ, the righteousness of God, "whom God set forth [exhibited] . . . for a showing forth of [a pointing out with the hand] His righteousness" (Rom 3:25). The Law points to Jesus Christ and not to itself; God points to...
  16. Gregg

    What does the Word say about the Law of YHWH which, in reality, is the Law of Moses?

    You are referring to: "Because by works of law not one of all flesh will be justified before Him, for through law is full knowledge of sin" (Rom 3:20 LITV). The knowledge of sin comes through "the Law" given through Moses and through the law written on our hearts by God. Paul makes the claim...
  17. Gregg

    What does the Word say about the Law of YHWH which, in reality, is the Law of Moses?

    "The Law" sometimes refers to the 10 commandments only and in other contexts it refers to the Pentateuch. It says "we" establish/stand by law. The word most often translated as "establish" [ἵστημι] can also mean 'uphold' or 'stand by;' for which I am leaning towards the latter in light of Gal...
  18. Gregg

    What does the Word say about the Law of YHWH which, in reality, is the Law of Moses?

    What you have bracketed in Rom 8:7 is an injurious interpretation of that verse. It changes the focus from God to Moses, and restricts the scope of the law of God.. What you have bolded ["subject to the Law"] in Rom 8:9 conflicts with Rom 8:5, ". . . but those who live according to the Spirit...
  19. Gregg

    What does the Word say about the Law of YHWH which, in reality, is the Law of Moses?

    I said: "The Law is not the standard by which Christians are measured", to which you replied: Mt 5:19 does not point to the Law as the standard by which a Christian is measured or judged. The Law points to Christ as our standard, "So that the Law has become a trainer of us until Christ, that we...
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