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Now this just sounds like contentious striving about words. I'm not interested in that.

Okay, but your view of what those words literally mean can be quite different to another's point of view as to what those words literally mean. When you're dealing with a supernatural being who is able to exist outside of time, space, matter, it's probably good to be flexible about what...

So, what; lots of people being mistaken in their beliefs validates your personal interpretation? There have been plenty of abuses based on people spiritualizing scripture to the point that they make it say whatever they want to say. The problem isn't that people try to find meaning between...

That's one interpretation. But the beasts that Daniel mentioned in relation to one another also just happen to be the same beasts mentioned in the Revelation (i.e. lion, Bear, leopard etc.)

I think Britain is mentioned in prophecy (i.e. the Lion). The Brexit issue could relate to America's destruction in that it hasn't done any favours for itself among it's European neighbours. When America is destroyed, what friends will England have left after all this? DAN 7:4 The first was...

How so?

:topic The topic is about the destruction of America in prophecy.

Sorry, Jason. I've not understood what you're trying to say here. Would you mind rewording it?

The context of that particular discussion was about what words are, or are not, found in scripture. The point I was making is that it shouldn't matter if the word "pornography" is found in the Bible or not, because we're not meant to follow the legalistic letter of the law, but rather the...

:biggrin2 As for fixed, it's not really the words which need fixing, but rather how we interpret them. I think it's like that for all of us. I'm pretty open to alternative interpretations but at least on this issue of the A.C. I think I've got a fairly reasonable explanation as to why it...

But pornography isn't, so... Anyway, it's not my reasoning. I'm trying to give examples in response to the reasoning reba used for the AC thing earlier.

Thanks Reba. Agreed. I'm hoping we can keep the topic to America's role (whether there be one or not) in prophecy and scriptural evidence for or against that suggestion. I think references to the eagle are particularly relevant because an eagle is significant in Daniel's vision of Beasts and...

Nope, because the word "pornography" is not found in scripture.

Depends on what you mean by "in the scriptures". To me, the scriptures are a lot more than just words on paper. I see concepts, ideologies, philosophies, values and morals which can't be tested or proved through words alone. According to your logic, there'd be a lot of people out there...

Exactly. Which is why I suggested we (at least try to) do both.

Also, while it's true that none of us has complete understanding of all truth, in that we must think and speculate about what prophecy means, I don't think it's accurate the way you lump in assumptions with thinking, speculating, and believing. I think there is a difference in emphasis. It's...

Hi Reba. You are right that the scriptures do not specifically say "Anti-Christ" (i.e. singular), but we're not supposed to be judging based on the letter of the law but rather the spirit. "Anti-christ" isn't just a title. It represents a behavior. Anyone can be anti-christ, but there will be...

I don't think any of us should be trying to destroy one another and we certainly shouldn't be looking forward to war. I think this is all the more reason why America will be destroyed. It's supposed to be "God's country", but instead they champion war and the destruction of those who disagree...

Yeah so, anyway, I'm keen to hear from anyone else who may have any thoughts to share.

Hi Reba. Yup, there will be many people teaching/behaving contrary or "anti" to Jesus and in that sense they are anti-christs. But there will be one person who will lead this anti-christ movement in the end time. He's not referred to by that title in scripture, but the title suits him because...