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While the RESULT is a foregone conclusion (no opportunity), I suspect that the PROCESS and REALITY has a bit more subtlety to it. For example, Romans 1 states that all men are without excuse. This would suggest that HARD DETERMINISM (people are robots that do as God forced them to do) is false...
non sequitur ... you answered NEITHER question asked of you:
So you are saying that Jesus wanted to save the non-elect but ran out of BLOOD?
You are saying THE BLOOD WAS INSUFFICIENT ... that is the reason many are not saved?
In contrast, I answered your question about what I believe...
No, I am a Reformed Baptist (I follow Reformed Theology and Baptist Distinctives ... I have never read any of Calvin's books) ... However, I found that the 4 truths that I discovered reading the Bible already had a name and an acronym (T.U.*.I.P.) - I had never even thought to ask "who did Jesus...
So you are saying that Jesus wanted to save the non-elect but ran out of BLOOD?
You are saying THE BLOOD WAS INSUFFICIENT ... that is the reason many are not saved?
Sigh ... I prefer non-Calvinists ... at least they pick fights over disagreements. You look to pick fights over semantics (I...
You are merely demonstrating historic ignorance of the origin of the name "Calvinist". A brief history lesson from the REFORMATION.
First, the Reformation began LONG before the birth of John Calvin. Some claim Huss as a Reformer but all acknowledge Martin Luther as a Reformer (long before...
How was ANYONE saved pre-Moses? (no LAW)?
How was ANYONE saved pre-Incarnation (no Christ)?
I think it was Romans 1 and Romans 2 that deals with that esoteric theological question.
However, I was focused more on POST CRUCIFIXION. Are all babies DAMNED simply because they have not obtained...
That is actually only your eisegesis of John Calvin, not what John Calvin actually wrote.
However, even if you were correct, John Calvin is not and Apostle and his writings are not Scripture. Personally, I care not one whit what John Calvin wrote.
LOL, I see the Calvinists are circling their wagons with blades drawn ready to kill a wounded soldier at the first smell of blood! [That was about as many metaphors as I could mash together in one sentence.]
Nope, Fastfredy0 and brightfame52 , that was NOT a fair assessment of my words or...
The grandfather of Montezuma wanted to be saved from the need to perform Human Sacrifice to appease the Aztec snake god, but the GOSPEL of Christ did not arrive in the Americas until after he died.
Was he saved without Christ? (Making the cross unnecessary).
Did EVERYONE WITHOUT EXCEPTION...
Can we say with certainty that God did not place a finger on the scale?
Especially if someone had the NERVE to upset our perfect experiment by contaminating our sample by PRAYING FOR HIM! 🙂
So much that I was once SURE was one thing, later turned out to be something else when I learned...
I am reminded of a quote by Mark Twain …
“Giving up smoking is the easiest thing in the world. I know because I've done it thousands of times.”
[human will - in bondage to a fallen nature - at its best] 😉
Granted, but I happened to Google the 12 steps and this was the first one that appeared on my search … so SOME apparently realize that the “higher power” has a name and are not afraid to call Him “God”.
Irrespective,
WE know who the “higher power“ is (and the name of His Son).
“higher power”...
What do they say about the Hebrew translated in Malachi 1? Does that mean “love less”? :lol
Malachi 1:1-5 [NLT]
This is the message that the LORD gave to Israel through the prophet Malachi. "I have always loved you," says the LORD. But you retort, "Really? How have you loved us?" And the...
FYI, the 12 steps of AA:
We admitted we were powerless over alcohol — that our lives had become unmanageable.
Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
Made a...
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