Growth “The Book of Life”

[gr8grace3]

straw-man argument
You left out doing it because God says to do it.

Jesus says; "Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you."

If they're doing what Jesus says to do, I'm not going to judge them "evil".

'from a divine perspective' ... Who's in charge of that? ... I ain't calling His friends "evil" ... I'll step aside when they come around ... I don't want any trouble with their Friend.

My friend, this is for you and I and how we walk and what is our motivation in doing our Christian works.I Do not believe we are ever called to be "fruit inspectors" unto another mans salvation. We can discern whether others are walking in the Spirit or not, but we can never discern whether or not if a person is saved.

The Divine perspective can be seen by Christians. Not all Christians see divine perspective. However, we have the mind of Christ in Bible Doctrine. If one studies and is walking in the Spirit, we Can Know the mind of Christ and have a divine perspective.

Bible doctrine and the mind of Christ says who ever believes on the Son is saved. If a man comes along and says, " That is not true." Bible doctrine and the mind of Christ Gives the doctrinal believer the discernment to "see" that that man is a religious believer,infant in Christ or an unbeliever.

 

[Kemosabe]

gr8grace3
Acts 16:31 is salvation for any man.It can not be lost and it cannot be attained any other way.

Take 2 men that feed the poor for an example. One does it out of thankfulness for his salvation(divine good) and the other does it to keep himself saved(human good)

One is Good and one is evil.

I get it now, I missed this part; "It can not be lost ..."

You're saying, anybody not believing "can not be lost" is evil?

Am I understanding what you're saying?
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[netchaplain]

Not disagreeing on any point, understanding that "causes" requires full compliance on our part to come to fruition.

"For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."

We do the seeking and doing, and God supplies the "to will" and the "to do".

Yes, I believe it is as you've indicated here. Sometimes attempting to share with one another can be difficult to express and occasionally results in semantics, having like understanding but expressing it differently.

 

[for_his_glory]

Make your point, with scriptures to back it up.

All you have said is do, but you have never defined the works of do. How could anyone understand the word do commanded by God if one does not explain what the do is.
What God commands us to do is that of continued works of the Lord, Matthew 22:37-40; 25:34-40, 28:18-20, done in all humility as it is not our works, but that of what God commands of us to continue in that of what Christ started and left for us to continue in.

 

[Kemosabe]

for_his_glory: All you have said is do, but you have never defined the works of do.

Perhaps you overlooked it.

"He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day."

"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you."

'The words of Jesus, The Word of God'

(and a few other scriptures)

for_his_glory: Matthew 28:18-20
"Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you:"

The two scriptures are saying the same thing.

"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you."

We live by everything Jesus said.

"... if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."

 

[for_his_glory]

Perhaps you overlooked it.

"He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day."

"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you."

'The words of Jesus, The Word of God'

(and a few other scriptures)



The two scriptures are saying the same thing.

"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you."

We live by everything Jesus said.

"... if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."

What I was trying to get out of you were those things God commands us to do. It seemed you were more fixed on the word do, but never explained what those commands of God were.