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That first article is a couple of years old. Ubuntu is no longer the most popular Linux distribution, and the main reason seems to be that people don't like the new Unity interface that the article showed a picture of. The most popular distribution today is Linux Mint, which comes in 4 different versions, with the Cinnamon, Mate, KDE and XFCE interfaces. You can see screenshots here. Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, and has access to the same sofware repositories.

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Yes, this is an old article, but for those here stuck on MS, maybe they'll see what Ubuntu looks like. I use 12.04 here because it is Long Term Service distro. At least the article admits Linux is superior to MS with security and viruses without giving the old BS "that if more people used Linux it would get more viruses" as if it used the same sloppy philosophy MS uses.

For me, the virus issue is a very major consideration. Some people can live with them, but I can't, because in my (unfortunate) MS days, these things never came at a good time, and viruses taught me I basically had zero control of my machine and who knows who is then looking over my shoulder? In the beginning it was funny, then it was frustrating, then I wanted to kill the virus writers. But after decades of MS not improving, I finally saw the light that I wanted to kill MS because they want it that way apparently, and virus writers are just taking advantage of it, thus my passionate railings against that operating system.
 
Im a big fan, daughter and son and child of microsoft. Im I weird? Does it make me a sinner.

Long time no chat, Tim
 
So being not real savy on this stuff, I've got a question... Can I have both Linux and Windows on my computer? As in how I now have Windows XP and Windows 7 and can select which one I want to use when I boot up. Or will doing that screw things up for me?
 
Obadiah said:
So being not real savy on this stuff, I've got a question... Can I have both Linux and Windows on my computer? As in how I now have Windows XP and Windows 7 and can select which one I want to use when I boot up. Or will doing that screw things up for me?
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Yes, you can dual boot. Usually it goes well, but on occasion there's some issues. I decided to just go cold turkey and ditch the MS altogether because files (all MS office), pictures, videos, and other personal stuff work well on Linux, and they have an equivalent app for virtually everything designed for MS (also they have an MS simulator, wine, which can run some .exe files but I have no experience with that). It's a learning curve, however. You have to relearn the feel, but MS seems to totally change their interface with each OS upgrade anyway, so it should not be a problem. People who resist changing over I noticed tend to need a comfort zone (something I could never achieve with MS :lol) and even stay with the old MS, such as XP inviting much danger.
 
I understand and agree with what you are saying about all the upgraded versions of Windoze. And they seem to get worse with each successive one. The only reason I need to stay with Windoze is because I'm big into flight simulation and just about everything written for that hobby is Windoze only. I read that there is some compatibility in Linux for MS Flight Sim 10, which is one of 2 base programs I use, but there's also a ton of add ons that I heard won't work or will only work somewhat but have lots of issues. Serious flight sim just gets too complicated as it is to be adding a bunch of software problems to it. That's why I need to be able to still boot up to Windoze 7 when I do that.

Right now I have Win7 on one drive and WinXP on a separate drive. But I've got Win 8 on another drive that is a version someone gave me (already on the drive) and it doesn't work that way, so I've never used it. So I was thinking of just reformatting that entire drive and putting Linux on it, at least to give it a try. All my data is on a 3rd drive and all my backups are on a 4th, so I'm not worried about losing anything there. Just wanted to be sure that putting Linux on it didn't somehow inadvertently screw something up where I couldn't get back into Windoze when needed. I think I'll give it a try.
 
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Obadiah said:
So being not real savy on this stuff, I've got a question... Can I have both Linux and Windows on my computer? As in how I now have Windows XP and Windows 7 and can select which one I want to use when I boot up. Or will doing that screw things up for me?
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Yes sir, as long as the windoze is installed first the Linux OS will ask if you want to dual boot and allow you to default or to select the Partition size. If the Linux OS, any of the better than 1000 versions, is installed, windoze wipes it out.
 
Classik said:
Lienux vs Windoze?






While Windows is like US in strenght Linux is like China in strenght
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I did Alpha and Beta testing with MS for a few years and I tell you the truth, Windoze has never, ever, compared with any Linux system for stability nor for strength. An accurate comparison on your suggested level would be windoze = Cuba and Linux = the USA.
 
Obadiah said:
I understand and agree with what you are saying about all the upgraded versions of Windoze. And they seem to get worse with each successive one. The only reason I need to stay with Windoze is because I'm big into flight simulation and just about everything written for that hobby is Windoze only. I read that there is some compatibility in Linux for MS Flight Sim 10, which is one of 2 base programs I use, but there's also a ton of add ons that I heard won't work or will only work somewhat but have lots of issues. Serious flight sim just gets too complicated as it is to be adding a bunch of software problems to it. That's why I need to be able to still boot up to Windoze 7 when I do that.

Right now I have Win7 on one drive and WinXP on a separate drive. But I've got Win 8 on another drive that is a version someone gave me (already on the drive) and it doesn't work that way, so I've never used it. So I was thinking of just reformatting that entire drive and putting Linux on it, at least to give it a try. All my data is on a 3rd drive and all my backups are on a 4th, so I'm not worried about losing anything there. Just wanted to be sure that putting Linux on it didn't somehow inadvertently screw something up where I couldn't get back into Windoze when needed. I think I'll give it a try.
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What kind of flight sim, rc? I ran mine in Virtual Box loaded with XP for a long time, training youngsters to fly. Vbox is free and if it is for real aircraft, the flight sim in Linux is one of the best I've seen and is the best free, hands down, Before I fell off my truck I kept my skill level up with regular sim flights to Galveston from the Hooks field in Tomball.

I'm thinking I might have just done you reason in. And if training youngsters to fly RC, we have a free sim for that in Linux.
 
Obadiah said:
I understand and agree with what you are saying about all the upgraded versions of Windoze. And they seem to get worse with each successive one. The only reason I need to stay with Windoze is because I'm big into flight simulation and just about everything written for that hobby is Windoze only. I read that there is some compatibility in Linux for MS Flight Sim 10, which is one of 2 base programs I use, but there's also a ton of add ons that I heard won't work or will only work somewhat but have lots of issues. Serious flight sim just gets too complicated as it is to be adding a bunch of software problems to it. That's why I need to be able to still boot up to Windoze 7 when I do that.

Right now I have Win7 on one drive and WinXP on a separate drive. But I've got Win 8 on another drive that is a version someone gave me (already on the drive) and it doesn't work that way, so I've never used it. So I was thinking of just reformatting that entire drive and putting Linux on it, at least to give it a try. All my data is on a 3rd drive and all my backups are on a 4th, so I'm not worried about losing anything there. Just wanted to be sure that putting Linux on it didn't somehow inadvertently screw something up where I couldn't get back into Windoze when needed. I think I'll give it a try.
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Excuse my ignorance Obidiah, I jumped the gun. Make sure you have all your drives connected for doing the Linux install and it will pick up both of the other drives when it installs the GRUB boot system and if you choose to keep the win8, that is the only reason you need to adjust the Partition area but I'm believing it came out of a newer computer and you will never access it because the other machine, like my new one, does not run on BIOS but runs on EFI or UEFI. My new unit run UEFI giving me the ability to use over 250 partitions. Most factory installs use more partitions than BIOS will support when the machine came with 8 or 8.1 onboard.
 
th1b.taylor said:
I did Alpha and Beta testing with MS for a few years and I tell you the truth, Windoze has never, ever, compared with any Linux system for stability nor for strength. An accurate comparison on your suggested level would be windoze = Cuba and Linux = the USA.
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Alright.
 
th1b.taylor said:
Excuse my ignorance Obidiah, I jumped the gun. Make sure you have all your drives connected for doing the Linux install and it will pick up both of the other drives when it installs the GRUB boot system and if you choose to keep the win8, that is the only reason you need to adjust the Partition area but I'm believing it came out of a newer computer and you will never access it because the other machine, like my new one, does not run on BIOS but runs on EFI or UEFI. My new unit run UEFI giving me the ability to use over 250 partitions. Most factory installs use more partitions than BIOS will support when the machine came with 8 or 8.1 onboard.
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Ignorance? Not compared to my lack of knowledge and understanding of these things your not ignorant! The win8 and the drive it was on was given to me by my neighbor who seemed intent on my learning how to use win8. (I wasn't that interested, but I think he was just looking for a "teaching project" to occupy his time...) He said I could just plug in the drive and boot up to win8 when the computer was started. Doesn't work that way I guess without Win8 having been installed while the drive was actually in my computer instead of his. Probably fo rthe reasons you describe above. The guy that built my computer explained why, but his explanations always go over my head. So when it didn't work he told me to go ahead and just keep the drive, so now I have an extra drive to play with. I think I'll just wipe out that non-working Win8 and try out Linux.

So you fly RC? That's a lot of fun. I used to fly those a lot, but haven't in a few years now. Even scratch built a few. My favorite is a 1/4 scale piper cub that I just loved to fly. I should get out one of my old trainers and go see if I can even still do it without crashing! (When this rain storm goes away...) I've flown the RC simulators a couple of times on other people's computers and really liked that I could plug in my transmitter and use that as the control. I imagine that is a great way to train someone. They can make all the mistakes they want and learn from them without having to spend $100+ on repairs after each mistake!

Now I mainly fly Microsoft's flight sim 10, but I fly with United Virtual Airlines, mainly 737s and 747s all over the world. All the planes I fly with them are top quality add ons that make Microsoft's stock planes look like trash and make a joke out of their theme "As real as it gets". With the advanced level of realism the add ons (including reporting software, advanced real time weather simulation, etc, etc) I found I enjoy the detail of planning all aspects of a commercial jetliner flight as much as I enjoy the actual flying of it. But in reading up on blogs from those who have tried doing this on Linux it seems while it's possible to get the basic flight sim to work with some limitations, and also get a few of the add ons to work, again with some limitations, many of the other software I use along with it just won't work or involves so much work and hassle to get it to work that it's just not worth the effort. But as long as I can still boot up to Win7 for flight sim and use Linux for everything else that would give me the best of both worlds!
 
I am dual booting 7 & 8 and I have 7 on a laptop, but I have gotten tired of Windows, I really have.
 
Obadiah said:
Ignorance? Not compared to my lack of knowledge and understanding of these things your not ignorant! The win8 and the drive it was on was given to me by my neighbor who seemed intent on my learning how to use win8. (I wasn't that interested, but I think he was just looking for a "teaching project" to occupy his time...) He said I could just plug in the drive and boot up to win8 when the computer was started. Doesn't work that way I guess without Win8 having been installed while the drive was actually in my computer instead of his. Probably fo rthe reasons you describe above. The guy that built my computer explained why, but his explanations always go over my head. So when it didn't work he told me to go ahead and just keep the drive, so now I have an extra drive to play with. I think I'll just wipe out that non-working Win8 and try out Linux.

So you fly RC? That's a lot of fun. I used to fly those a lot, but haven't in a few years now. Even scratch built a few. My favorite is a 1/4 scale piper cub that I just loved to fly. I should get out one of my old trainers and go see if I can even still do it without crashing! (When this rain storm goes away...) I've flown the RC simulators a couple of times on other people's computers and really liked that I could plug in my transmitter and use that as the control. I imagine that is a great way to train someone. They can make all the mistakes they want and learn from them without having to spend $100+ on repairs after each mistake!

Now I mainly fly Microsoft's flight sim 10, but I fly with United Virtual Airlines, mainly 737s and 747s all over the world. All the planes I fly with them are top quality add ons that make Microsoft's stock planes look like trash and make a joke out of their theme "As real as it gets". With the advanced level of realism the add ons (including reporting software, advanced real time weather simulation, etc, etc) I found I enjoy the detail of planning all aspects of a commercial jetliner flight as much as I enjoy the actual flying of it. But in reading up on blogs from those who have tried doing this on Linux it seems while it's possible to get the basic flight sim to work with some limitations, and also get a few of the add ons to work, again with some limitations, many of the other software I use along with it just won't work or involves so much work and hassle to get it to work that it's just not worth the effort. But as long as I can still boot up to Win7 for flight sim and use Linux for everything else that would give me the best of both worlds!
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Being a chopper and small plane nut I've not tried any large craft but with Linux, nearly all versions, Flight Gear is free and completely operable and a demo version of X-Plane 10 is available for windows, Mac and Linux, have never flown it. My favorite RC today is WL Toy's UFO. It is a quad rotor with wrap around fuse. My, all time favorite was a scratch built, designed by myself, P 51 for .049. It was a belly scrapper but with an .09 strapped to it in a modified nose cowl the little rascal must have been traveling near 70 to 80 mph and this on an 18" wing. To keep crash damage down a bass wood skid was attached to the belly, 1/8th inch protrusion and the same to each wing tip. With no flaps, landings were exciting. :gavel
 
Lewis W said:
I am dual booting 7 & 8 and I have 7 on a laptop, but I have gotten tired of Windows, I really have.
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Lewis,
If you download one of the Ubuntu OS's, Linux Mint, Ubuntu or an y of the others, be sure to use the Cinnamon Desk Top. It comes with the Mint version but can be downloaded through the Ubuntu Software Center for non-nerds and through the Synaptic Package Manager or by an apt-get command line for nerds like myself. It really makes the transition, almost, painless.

I do not like the current move by the Ubuntu Team to look more like windoze 8 but Cinnamon is more like XP or the Gnome 2 Desk top menu.
 
The little man running the file system in my head broke his leg when I fell off my Mixer and it takes that nut forever to retrieve information for me these days but he finally made the trip for me. That windoze 8 will never run on your computer. The new registration records the make, model and s/n of the processor and that prevents it from running on another machine. See what kind of bums you have to deal with these days?
 
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