Limits to what the Blood Cleanses

[Classik]

Limits to what the Blood Cleanses

someone wrote, "Jesus' blood cleanses all our sin. However, it doesn't cleanse the sin we refuse to confess"

You will Not prosper if you cover your sin.

Prov 28:13, 1Jn 1:5-10

 

[Gary]

Hebrews 10....(NKJV)
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

 

[iLOVE]

We are under the new covenant. If you have received your B/A degree (born again) God does not count sins against you. The blood of Jesus has done it all! IT IS FINISHED! Amazing Grace How Sweet It Is.

 

[reba]

One of the things Grace means to me is... The Lord forgiving me when i ask to be forgiven for what i have forgotten or failed to report to Him..

 

[Deborah13]

Hebrews 10....(NKJV)
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

What is willful sin? According to Strong's this is the definition of that Greek word which the author wrote.
Only through this definition did I understand why King David could be forgiven for adultery and murdering an innocent man. His sin was from weakness in the flesh. Therefore, it was not the willful type of sin that this scripture is talking about. The scriptures tell us that God knew David's heart and that David loved God but he stumbled in his flesh. His sin was not directed at God or caused by unbelief in God as His Redeemer. He did repent and ask God not to take the Holy Spirit from him. We can be sure that his sin did not fall into this category of having "no more sacrifice for sin."
That says to me that God's grace and mercy is much bigger than we often give Him credit for.
Most of us would say that a man could not be one of God's children and do these things. I really believe that some of us take way too much credit for our own good behavior and therefore our status as to salvation.
G1596

1. voluntarily, willingly, of one's own accord
   
   1. to sin wilfully as opposed to sins committed inconsiderately, and from ignorance or from weakness
      

 

[iLOVE]

Hebrews 10....(NKJV)
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

“No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him and he cannot sin, because he is born of God” (1 John 3:9).

This passage is not speaking of a believer who falls away, but rather someone who may claim to be a believer, but truly is not. Anyone who apostatizes is proving he never had genuine faith to begin with (1 John 2:19).


Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/Hebrews-10-26.html#ixzz3H75bBsso

 

[Gary]

“No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him and he cannot sin, because he is born of God” (1 John 3:9).

This passage is not speaking of a believer who falls away, but rather someone who may claim to be a believer, but truly is not. Anyone who apostatizes is proving he never had genuine faith to begin with (1 John 2:19).

What does it mean to be sanctified?
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[Gary]

What is willful sin? According to Strong's this is the definition of that Greek word which the author wrote.
Only through this definition did I understand why King David could be forgiven for adultery and murdering an innocent man. His sin was from weakness in the flesh. Therefore, it was not the willful type of sin that this scripture is talking about. The scriptures tell us that God knew David's heart and that David loved God but he stumbled in his flesh. His sin was not directed at God or caused by unbelief in God as His Redeemer. He did repent and ask God not to take the Holy Spirit from him. We can be sure that his sin did not fall into this category of having "no more sacrifice for sin."
That says to me that God's grace and mercy is much bigger than we often give Him credit for.
Most of us would say that a man could not be one of God's children and do these things. I really believe that some of us take way too much credit for our own good behavior and therefore our status as to salvation.
G1596

1. voluntarily, willingly, of one's own accord
   1. to sin wilfully as opposed to sins committed inconsiderately, and from ignorance or from weakness

I'm not understanding what you're saying here.

Sorry.
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[Willie T]

What is willful sin? According to Strong's this is the definition of that Greek word which the author wrote.
Only through this definition did I understand why King David could be forgiven for adultery and murdering an innocent man. His sin was from weakness in the flesh. Therefore, it was not the willful type of sin that this scripture is talking about. The scriptures tell us that God knew David's heart and that David loved God but he stumbled in his flesh. His sin was not directed at God or caused by unbelief in God as His Redeemer. He did repent and ask God not to take the Holy Spirit from him. We can be sure that his sin did not fall into this category of having "no more sacrifice for sin."
That says to me that God's grace and mercy is much bigger than we often give Him credit for.
Most of us would say that a man could not be one of God's children and do these things. I really believe that some of us take way too much credit for our own good behavior and therefore our status as to salvation.
G1596

1. voluntarily, willingly, of one's own accord
   1. to sin wilfully as opposed to sins committed inconsiderately, and from ignorance or from weakness

Very clearly spoken. You are so correct.

 

[iLOVE]

What does it mean to be sanctified?
.

Born again and part of God's family. Holy!

 

[Gary]

What does it mean to be sanctified?

Born again and part of God's family. Holy!

Hebrews 10....(NKJV)
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
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This passage is not speaking of a believer who falls away, but rather someone who may claim to be a believer, but truly is not. Anyone who apostatizes is proving he never had genuine faith to begin with (1 John 2:19).

Are you sure?
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[iLOVE]

Hebrews 10....(NKJV)
26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.
28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
29 Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace?
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Are you sure?
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Yes...“No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him and he cannot sin, because he is born of God” (1 John 3:9).

 

[Edward]

I was going to ask a question, but Deborah13 answered it for me with her post already. Thank you sister.

 

[Gary]

I was going to ask a question, but Deborah13 answered it for me with her post already. Thank you sister.

Then explain it to me because I don't get it.

Please.
.

 

[Gary]

Yes...“No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him and he cannot sin, because he is born of God” (1 John 3:9).

Even though it indicates the individual referenced is sanctified?

Born again and part of God's family. Holy!

 

[jasonc]

Then explain it to me because I don't get it.

Please.
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I believe she means that most sin from weakness not for the ability like adam had. to be free from sin and then sin.

 

[Adstar]

Limits to what the Blood Cleanses

someone wrote, "Jesus' blood cleanses all our sin. However, it doesn't cleanse the sin we refuse to confess"

You will Not prosper if you cover your sin.

Prov 28:13, 1Jn 1:5-10

I agree if we declare our sin not to be sin we have disbelieved the truth of God and therefore we do not believe God and thus we do not have faith/trust in God. But if we acknowledge all the teachings of God on sin to be true and right and depend upon the Blood of Jesus to Atone for all our transgressions then we shall be forgiven all our sins. If one wishes to have the covering one must believe the one offering that covering. Otherwise we believe in another jesus another god. A god of our own creation. A god that cannot save us..

Believe Jesus..

 

[Deborah13]

What does it mean to be sanctified?
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That is the question that I have, too?
We know that someone can be sancitified because of the relationship/position to another person. However, that does not mean they are justified, saved.
ie. The believing spouse sanctifies the unbelieving spouse.

We know this book was written specifically to people who had been or were still, in Judaism. Is it possible that because they were a part of the nation of Israel that they were considered to be sanctified but not justified?

 

[iLOVE]

Even though it indicates the individual referenced is sanctified?

Because it is written, You will be holy; for I am holy. 1 Peter 1:16 NKJV
God was not telling us to be holy. He was saying we are holy because He is holy. God spoke these words in existence over Christians.

 

[Edward]

Then explain it to me because I don't get it.

Please.
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Ok brother. There's a difference between willful sin and uh, ignorant sin. If one has never received Christ and asked forgiveness for their sins, and they are, say...living with their girlfriend and are unmarried. Even if they are being loyal to her and honor the compact of fidelity, they're still sinning, but may not realize (through ignorance) that it is in fact a sin unto God. Once they receive the Lord into their heart and are forgiven and born again (they have a bigger responsibility to obey the Lord). The Lords love covers a multitude of sin, this is true, but as one progresses in their walk (and should be studying and learning/growing), they should be cleaning their life up. At some point, they will learn that they are to be married or it is sin, and if they choose to not get married still...then they've fallen into willful sin and are in effect choosing to put their trust into themselves rather than the Christ. The Lords grace and love is mighty leinient , but at some point...the Lord will consider them mature enough to obey His commandments...and he will have this sin counted against him. We are to obey the Lords laws, precepts and commandments even moreso than mans laws.

Man is steeped in sin from birth pretty much. If we say we have no sin, even after being born again, we are liars. It's important to claim the blood of Jesus upon our life everyday. To recognize our sin and to repent of it and ask forgiveness. If we do this, it is as if we have no sin. We are walking in Christ and growing. But there's no loopholes, God will not be mocked. We can't think to ourselves, ok I'll go party this weekend and have fun and get with a girl and ask forgiveness Sunday morning in church. That's like playing russian roulette and willful sin.

That's why scripture says it better for a man to have never known the Lord, than to learn righteousness and then turn back to his old ways (2 Peter 2:21)