Bible Study do my spirit have free will ???

[thesaintman]

from what ive heard....

spirit= communion... conscience... wisdom...
soul= mind.....will .... emotions.....

im wondering............

if wisdom is experience knoweldge ... with insight and common sense...

is common sense free will is insight free will......

im not sure what wisdom is....

what is wisdom is it free will???????????

 

[smaller]

Wisdom confronts the facts that internally, we are all faced with good and evil. And no, we are not free from internal exposure to evil, which is no indication of being "free" from that side of the equations.

Wisdom will tell us that the wise and the fool are bound together, between our own two ears.

 

[Jim Parker]

what is wisdom is it free will???????????

No, wisdom and free will are two entirely different things.

Wisdom is the ability to analyze a situation and make a logical choice as to how to respond.
Free will is the ability to act on that choice of how to respond.

For example: Two dogs are fighting over a bone. That annoys me.
Should I get between them and try to stop them from fighting?

Wisdom: Knowing that If I do, I'll probably get bitten.
Free will: Choosing to leave them alone.

 

[OzSpen]

No, wisdom and free will are two entirely different things.

Wisdom is the ability to analyze a situation and make a logical choice as to how to respond.
Free will is the ability to act on that choice of how to respond.

For example: Two dogs are fighting over a bone. That annoys me.
Should I get between them and try to stop them from fighting?

Wisdom: Knowing that If I do, I'll probably get bitten.
Free will: Choosing to leave them alone.

Jim,

From the beginning of time, we see the misuse of both wisdom and free will according to Gen 2:16-17 (ESV): 'And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die'.

And what were the man and woman not wise enough to do in their perfect state? They had the ability to choose to eat or not to eat from the tree. Free will caused them to make the wrong decision.

Since that time, it seems to me that all of us as redeemed Christian believers have the challenge of God-given or human wisdom and the ability to accept or reject decisions.

Is that an appropriate observation or not?

Oz

 

[Jim Parker]

Jim,

From the beginning of time, we see the misuse of both wisdom and free will according to Gen 2:16-17 (ESV): 'And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, “You may surely eat of every tree of the garden, 17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die'.

And what were the man and woman not wise enough to do in their perfect state? They had the ability to choose to eat or not to eat from the tree. Free will caused them to make the wrong decision.

Since that time, it seems to me that all of us as redeemed Christian believers have the challenge of God-given or human wisdom and the ability to accept or reject decisions.

Is that an appropriate observation or not?

Oz

It seems to me that the "Adamic nature" corrupts human wisdom resulting in the question, "What is good?" being altered to, "What seems good to me?". The temptation to "know good and evil" was a trap. Our purpose is to know God. We were not given the omniscience of God required to "know" good and evil so we are easily fooled by the lusts of the flesh.

Being born again creates an adversarial situation between the lusts of the flesh and the desires of the mind which is now guided by the Holy Spirit. Prior to being born again, the mind was guided by the flesh to obey the law of the flesh which is the drive for self preservation, self gratification and the attaining of immortality by means of the accumulating wealth and power.

Or so it seems to me.

my 2 kopecks
iakov the fool

 

[OzSpen]

It seems to me that the "Adamic nature" corrupts human wisdom resulting in the question, "What is good?" being altered to, "What seems good to me?". The temptation to "know good and evil" was a trap. Our purpose is to know God. We were not given the omniscience of God required to "know" good and evil so we are easily fooled by the lusts of the flesh.

Being born again creates an adversarial situation between the lusts of the flesh and the desires of the mind which is now guided by the Holy Spirit. Prior to being born again, the mind was guided by the flesh to obey the law of the flesh which is the drive for self preservation, self gratification and the attaining of immortality by means of the accumulating wealth and power.

Or so it seems to me.

my 2 kopecks
iakov the fool

Jim,

The issue I was raising was that proposed in the OP: Does my spirit have free will? My view is that from the beginning of time, even when there was innocence with Adam and Eve (Gen 2:16-17 ESV), they had the choice (free will) to eat or not eat from the tree. We have had free will from that time until now.

I agree with you that the sinful nature (that born again people still have) corrupts wisdom and manifests in an adversarial situation with the lusts of the flesh.

That's my bob's worth.
Oz