666

[ProphetMark]

Regarding the mark of the beast, Revelation 13 v 18 says "This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666."
So how do we calculate the number? Anyone got any idea what the significance of the number 666 is?

 

[Armor of God]

The number 666 will somehow be an identifier of the Anti-Christ. Beyond that, there is no specific information in scripture that tells us the significance of the number.

Some say because the letters in the Hebrew alphabet also represent numbers it spells the name of the Anti-Christ. I've seen some interesting "calculations" based on this but it's purely conjecture.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Ive thought about it but have never come to any conclusion.I thought Id just wait and see for myself once the host is sent to Jerusalem.Like most things ,it will probably be something simple to understand once you see it.

 

[duval]

Like any one else on this subject mine is simplly a thought. Had God wanted us to know He would have told us. The number may refer to man. Some think 6 is the number of man as some think 7 represents perfection. Man fails again and again thus 666: failure after failure after failure, 666. Those not saved?????

 

[jtb]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papyrus_115

666 or 616?

 

[XTruth]

The psychic Silvia Brown that was always on the Montel show said 666 was Nero's address and that's all there is to that. :rolling

Like someone else said, 6 is the number of man. There were no exclamation points, all caps, or bold faced letters back then, so to make a point. and shoe that you are making a point, they would say words twice...like "Verily, verily, I say unto you..." For extra crazy amounts of emphasis, they might say words 3 times, like the creatures in heaven who cry out that God is holy, holy, holy. So my belief is that the 666, for those who understand it, will emphasize that this is only a man, not the Messiah. He is not God as he will claim to be in the middle of the Tribulation; he is man, man, man!...666.

Only my opinion. Maybe it is as simple as what I've always heard, that it is the added numerical value of his name. This is what I believe, but I can't say for sure.

 

[bigfrank]

hi guys

666 is the number given to any one who tries to put themselves above God

satan does this so is given the number 666

the number 333 indicates the Holy Trinity of God so anyone trying to put themselves above God is given the number 666

666 in roman numerals is DCLXVI

666 refers to the name of a man - the numerical values of the letters in his name add to 666

 

[stovebolts]

If we let scripture interpret scripture, where else in the bible do we see the number?
Remember, Anti - Christ represents the Anti - Kingdom... ;)

 

[Cornelius]

Its a number that has traveled the distance.

God uses it as a marker. Nebuchadnezzar' statue has a 666. Goliath has a 666. Solomon has a 666 (in one type is represents the antichrist system) Kissinger = 666 and so does countless others in who's actions we can see them being anti-Christ . Anti everything that Christ stands for.

These are simply forerunners for a world wide system that God sees and ANTI. Not PRO-Christ , but ANTI.
Abortion is antichrist, war is antichrist, gay marriages are antichrist, so is every single human government that underwrites any of these things. they are all .........666.......antichrist.

Every single human being who is not PRO-Christ, the Bible calls ANTI.
Its not a MAN. Its a spirit. And its in everybody who is not PRO.
Anti means against. So its all who are "against-Christ " they are 666.

 

[Vic C.]

It's been said here many times and I'm inclined to agree with it. Anyone who teaches or believes Christ Jesus has not come in the flesh, is an antichrist. The only places antichrist is mentioned in the Bible is:

(1 John 2:18 KJV) Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

(1 John 2:22 KJV) Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

(1 John 4:3 KJV) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

(2 John 1:7 KJV) For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

The spirit of antichrist is among us and has been, at least sinse the time John wrote his letters. I'd go as far as saying this spirit has been here at least since The Garden.

 

[Cornelius]

It's been said here many times and I'm inclined to agree with it. Anyone who teaches or believes Christ Jesus has not come in the flesh, is an antichrist. The only places antichrist is mentioned in the Bible is:

Its actually "is come" not "has come" (present continues tense) "is come" It means He is still coming in flesh (your flesh) at this moment. Its an imperfect action, not completed yet. Its an important distinction so I thought I should point it out

er'-khom-ahee
Middle voice of a primary verb (used only in the present and imperfect tenses, the others being supplied by a kindred [middle voice] word, á¼ÂλεÃÂθομαι eleuthomai or á¼â€ÃŽÂ»ÃŽÂ¸Ã‰ elthÃ…Â; which do not otherwise occur); to come or go (in a great variety of applications, literally and figuratively): - accompany, appear, bring, come enter, fall out, go, grow, X light, X next, pass, resort, be set.


(1 John 4:3 KJV) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

And we also have to see that its every spirit (not every man) that confesseth. That means, if I cannot see Christ in you, you are antichirst and visa-versa. My SPIRIT has to confess that Jesus is indeed living in me. Does not matter what my mouth say, if my spirit contradicts my mouth, my spirit wins.

Makes you think, because many on a forum or in a church can SAY " I am a Christian" (easy to type) but in the way that they behave, (the "spirit" in which they move) they contradict that Christ indeed lives in them.

That would be antichrist behavior according to 1 John 4:3
C

 

[Cornelius]

1 John 4:3 in normal English would be:
Every one who's walk does not show that they indeed have the living Christ indwelling them, is antichrist

 

[Vic C.]

You got all that from my typo? I should make typos more often, heh?

 

[Cornelius]

You got all that from my typo? I should make typos more often, heh?

Never miss a good opportunity

 

[Paidion]

... so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. Revelation 13:17

The New Testament was written in Greek. Every letter of the Greek alphabet represents a number.
The "number of a name" is obtained by adding the numeric value of all the letters in that name.

What follows is the Greek alphabet in order of its letters from alpha to omega with the numerical value of each letter, as well as the name of each letter:

α 1 alpha
β 2 beta
γ 3 gamma
δ 4 delta
ε 5 epsilon
ζ 7 zeta
η 8 eta
θ 9 theta
ι 10 iota
κ 20 kappa
λ 30 lambda
μ 40 mu
ν 50 nu
ξ 60 xi
ο 70 omicron
À 80 pi
ÃÂ 100 rho
ÃÆ’, Â 200 sigma
Ä 300 tau
Ã… 400 upsilon
Æ 500 phi
Ç 600 chi
È 700 psi
̉ۡ 800 omega

First a couple of notes on the alphabet.
1. You may wonder why 6, 90, and 900 are not included. These numbers were given Greek characters which are outside the Greek alphabet. They are: diagamma 6, koppa 90, and sampi 900. We don't need to concern ourselves with these since they are not included in the Greek alphabet.

2. You may wonder why two different characters are given for the letter "sigma". In the modern Greek font, the second one is used at the end of a word, and the first is used anywhere else in the word.

I was astonished when I first discovered from early Christian writings that the number of the name "Jesus" in Greek is 888. For I thought that must be somehow significant since the number of the beast is 666. I still wonder if a name with the value of 777 would have any significance.

Here is the calculation for "ἰηÃοÅÂ" (Jesus):

ι ----10
η -----8
ÃÆ’-- 200
ο----70
Ã…-- 400
Â-- 200
--------
ttl--888

Irenaeus (120-202 A.D.) proposed a few possibilities for the name of Antichrist (or "the beast"). each of whose letters add to 666:

λαÄεινο (lateinos) The Latin man, also the name of the founder of the Roman state.
εá½Âανθα (evanthas) Meaning obscure
ÄειÄαν (teitan) According to Wikipedia, the Titans "were a race of powerful deities that ruled during the legendary Golden Age."

Irenaeus thought that "ÄειÄαν" was the most likely name for the following reasons:
1. It contains 6 letters.
2. It is ancient and removed from ordinary use.
3. It is a name belonging to a tyrant.

Having made these suggestions, Irenaeus stated that no one actually knew the correct name of Antichrist in his time, and would not know until the he is revealed. He also said that the number of Antichrist's name was made known in the vision to John even in his day so that when the man comes he might be avoided, for Christians would be aware of who he is.

 

[Sinthesis]

I pulled this from some other forum. I don't claim authorship; I'm just throwing it out there.

Nero Caesar in aramaic is spelled NRON KSR. Aramaic letters have numeral values like roman numerals.
N= 50
R=200
O= 6
N= 50
K=100
S= 60
R=200
.....666

"The preterist takes a relatively uncommon form of Nero's name, Nero C�sar or C�sar Nero, and adds an "n", resulting in Neron C�sar. Next the Latin is transliterated into Aramaic, resulting in nrwn qsr, which when using the numeric equivalent of the letters, then adds up to 666 as follows:
Nun = 50
Resh = 200
Waw = 6
Nun = 50
Qoph = 100
Samech = 60
Resh = 200

An example of this spelling has apparently been recently discovered in one of the Dead Sea scrolls. (If you use the same process, but without the added "n" the result is 616. Interestingly, some early manuscripts of the Bible have 616 rather than 666, but even scholars such as Iren�us attribute the 616 to only a copyist error.)

There is a problem though with the above calculation. According to the rules of Jewish numerology, known as gematria, when the letter Nun appears a second time in a word, it is known as a "Final", and takes the value of 700.* So to be precise, NRWN QSR actually adds up to .1316 and not 666 "

 

[Momentum]

revelations 13:16-18

16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.

666 isn't the mark of the beast, it is the number of the name of the one who gives the mark

A mark in Bible prophecy is the same thing as a seal

and a seal contains three things.
Name, Title, Territory

Exodus 20:11
11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.

This is the seal of God
Name: Lord ( 8 "I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 42:8)

Title: Creator because he Made the heaven and earth and the sea and all that is in them

Territory:the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them,

The mark of the beast, is something similar to God's but not the same (duh)

also the right hand and forehead and symbolic.


the right hand symbolize force and the forehead symbolize free choice.

Either the person will get the mark of the beast by force (right hand, Isaiah 45:1 "This is what the LORD says to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of to subdue nations before him and to strip kings of their armor, to open doors before him so that gates will not be shutor the mark of the beast will be received freely (forehead). (When studying the brain scientist have found out that decisions are made in the area of the forehead)

Although I do not have the links for the citation of this forehead=decision making proof

 

[XTruth]

revelations 13:16-18

16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.

666 isn't the mark of the beast, it is the number of the name of the one who gives the mark

Totally true and hardly taught...good call.

The mark of the beast, is something similar to God's but not the same (duh)

also the right hand and forehead and symbolic.


the right hand symbolize force and the forehead symbolize free choice.

Either the person will get the mark of the beast by force (right hand, Isaiah 45:1 "This is what the LORD says to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of to subdue nations before him and to strip kings of their armor, to open doors before him so that gates will not be shutor the mark of the beast will be received freely (forehead). (When studying the brain scientist have found out that decisions are made in the area of the forehead)

Although I do not have the links for the citation of this forehead=decision making proof

The company company that owns rights to the RIFD chip did a study that cost 1.5 million dollars. They were trying to find out the best place to put the chip. They found that there were 2 ideal places; the hand, specifically the right hand, and the forehead at the scalp line. Whoever has the RFID chip isn't damned, it's not the mark of the beast, but this is w/o doubt the same technology that'll be used here in a few years.

 

[Sinthesis]

The mark of the beast is how the beast's followers submit themselves to him. The right hand signifies what you do. The forehead signifies what you think. Your actions and beliefs show your true allegiance. No technology is needed.

 

[Vic C.]

The mark of the beast is how the beast's followers submit themselves to him. The right hand signifies what you do. The forehead signifies what you think. Your actions and beliefs show your true allegiance. No technology is needed.

That was interesting, Sinth.