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Discussion in 'Questions & Suggestions for CFnet Staff' started by Pard, Apr 24, 2012.

  1. Free

    Free Staff Member Moderator

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    Because it's just easier that way. :biggrin ;)

    I agree that church is typically for like-minded individuals as that is how it is done but I disagree that that is the way it should be, at least to the extent that it has gone. This is why there is no unity in the Church. Everyone wants to be with people they agree with and insulate themselves from everyone else; no one wants to be truly challenged in what they believe. It really comes down to "we have the truth so let's segregate ourselves from those who don't." IMO.

    Arguing in the common sense is generally rude. Discussing claims to truth through civil, rational discourse should never be considered rude.

    I'm not an argumentative person either but if someone makes a truth claim that clearly is false or even possibly not true, I have no problem calling them on it--pastor, leader, or layperson. Christianity is about truth and truth personified in Jesus; he is the Truth. If we want to say we have the truth of a matter, we had better be able to show why.

    Well, it isn't necessarily a place to learn about science. It is meant as a forum to discuss how science and Christianity relate, which implies that one should have a level of knowledge already if they are going to be a part of the discussion. So it can certainly make it difficult to learn science although not impossible and it will take time.

    But I agree, it's hard enough with those who aren't scientists but are studied in the common arguments. When actual scientists step in, I'm done. Actually, I'm done before that as I haven't studied much of it in a while. Most of what I have learned was through forums such as this. It does take time but there are a host of resources on the Internet and various books to help out.

    :twocents

    Anyways, whatever. A decision will be made very soon and if we go this route, we need to figure out how it can be implemented. Some things are easier said than done.
     
  2. Pard

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    Well thanks for reading my post! But I meant the much shorter one :tongue

    I think this is a really fair and easy way to go about it. The Christian Only section is pretty much self-policed by members. I rarely see any arguing going on in it at all. And when it does have arguing someone with red text goes "Stop!" and then it does! All I am suggesting is that we make a sub-forum in the Christian Only and designate it for something like "Science" or maybe a little broader so it has a multi-purpose use. This way it keeps those pesky atheists with all their loaded questions out and it also keeps the arguing out so people can learn without having to filter through stuff they don't care about or frankly just don't understand.

    If you need someone to crack heads together... I mean moderate it, I'll do it if no one else wants to.
     
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    Told you it was easier to just ignore them. lol

    So is this for a YEC only forum or a forum for learning about science in general?

    That will be up to Vic, Nick and Mike.
     
  4. Pard

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    I would say anything science in the Bible. Not just YEC. I don't care if I share a forum with you nutty old earth people, just don't spam up my thread and I won't spam up yours! :)
     
  5. StoveBolts

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    And that was simply my point Duane. If somebody want to learn about the Bible, they go into the Bible Study forum. If they want to argue a particular view of the Bible, they go to the Apologetic or End Time forums and no, newbies should not enter into the realm of Apologetic.

    To insulate YEC, is in my mind to ask that ... Gad, never mind. :shrug I understand your concerns. What this will cause me to do, is find another forum where I can be with like minded people and ask questions, or share what I've learned in an environment that is conducive to asking questions, learning and growing without all the bickering and sour feelings. Honestly, and I'll state this again. I'm simply tired of trying to learn in a hostile environment. Call it what you will, but I'm burnt out on having to defend almost every post. I don't mind talking and discussing and learning from others, but not when the atmosphere invokes boastful pride where one can't even admit they didn't know something, or they were wrong. It just doesn't work for me.

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    I read the scriptures and believe. I would like learn some some science input in to scripture.. 2 classes with Dr. Gish about 1973 was just not enough. I am looking forward to reading what some of you have to say....

    When i get some science in my head THEN a trip to the other science forum would make more sense. As in being able to understand some of the words they use...:yes
     
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    jeff i think that vah thing would do well in that forum especially what the light and darkness does mean.

    men thats deep. you just light the entire book of exodus and leviticus with that idea. make sense and also take alook at this

    to him that know to do good and doesn that is a sin. hmm make sense to me with the vah and what we talked about.
     
  9. Pard

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    Why don't we make it even easier...

    Can we have a private Bible study in the "Private Bible Study" section to discuss our YEC stuff? And just have a little not on the subforum that people who'd like to join should PM Blah blah blah? That's real simple and YEC is a Bible study because we hold the feet of science to the fore of the Word!
     
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    Why should it be private? Create 2 sub forums (OEC and YEC) to make it fair and let them both be visible for everyone to see.
     
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    I am pretty sure the earth is OLD, OLD, OLD - but I find the discussion interesting and sure hope that if I enter such a discussion (here or elsewhere) I can contribute without offending any of my YEC friends.
     
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    I thoughts how they worked. I cannot view your bible studies. It says I need permission.
     
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    You are in New England. About as bad as being in Canada.

    We have standards. :thumbsup
     
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    No, New England is WAY worse than Canadia. At least they are brave enough to actually enact the crazy ideas they believe in! :toofunny

    Sorry Free... :tongue
     
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    A Young Earth Creationist forum will be created. It will be open to others, but will be discussion only.

    Stay tuned.
     
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    Nick, i want another is australia a communist thread again? lol im well dealing with that stuff again elsewhere and it reminded me of our debate on that. hmm all dem marxist in the land down under that love socialised medicine.

    You commie:biglol:yes
     
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    lol @ jason.

    Anyway, the YEC forum has been created! Request to join the YEC group for access.
     
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    thank you! :clap
     
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    Thank you guys very mucho!
     

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