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For those Christians who side with evolution, how does that pair with the Adam & Eve account. If evolution is true then there would be no Adam & Eve, the Genesis accounts would be old mythology.
 
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Evolution is one point that is a struggle for many Christians. But if a Christian holds evolution as true and genesis and a lesser authority, or if a Christian holds genesis to be the authority and evolution to be in error. In either case we understand in part, and our faith is not dependant on knowing everything the correct way. Our faith is dependant on Jesus. He is Lord, and King of Kings.

That said those who struggle with evolution and come to conclusions that Genesis is not as trustworthy as Jesus claims scripture to be. Those Christians have an issue within their faith in God's word. It might weaken their faith as a whole, or they might lose out on being strengthened by the full acceptance and study of scripture. Hopefully not, but I think some are hurt by their misunderstanding.

I have heard of some Christians leaving their faith over this issue. Makes me sad to know that. It should be obvious that God is real, and then be more difficult to know what is from God and isn't. Not have the burden be to question God existing at all because of theories within evolutionary perspectives.
 
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You raise a very interesting topic of conversation which is also controversial and the source of debates.
On one hand you have Genesis, the book describing creation and the origins of the universe and so forth. One the other you have Christians who also subscribe to the theory that all life has over millions of years evolved, and is the product of what we see today.

Some members here will remember when I joined CFnet I was not a Christian, but merely was exploring Christianity which is an interest of mine. I did believe that everything we see today evolved from something earlier in the timeline; at this point I was amazed to learn we actually share DNA characteristics with bananas which I find extraordinary! Even today, I believe some products we experience are progressing down their evolutionary timeline; an example would be flowers that adapt and modify to their surroundings. I can state I do not believe Adam and Eve were products of evolution, but that of an omnipotent creator.

This very topic is defined by a persons walk with Christ and their background. It is important to note that as Christians we share experiences but walk different paths; after all we have our own relationship with God.

I hope my above comments have shone some light onto your question tears4fears.
 
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For those Christians who side with evolution, how does that pair with the Adam & Eve account. If evolution is true then there would be no Adam & Eve, the Genesis accounts would be old mythology.
What evolution does is it removes the concept of how sin began to be in the human race. Evolutionism tells us sin wasn't brough into the world by one man but instead it was brough by a population or some other method.

Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned
 

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For those Christians who side with evolution, how does that pair with the Adam & Eve account. If evolution is true then there would be no Adam & Eve, the Genesis accounts would be old mythology.
What makes you think there would be no Adam and Eve? What makes you think the Genesis accounts would then be old mythology?
 
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The bible doesnt describe much on how God created.it's not a science book,but a book to tell men about God using very old languages whose cultural knowledge of science is limited.

I'm adamant against the toe,oe,yet I know I don't know how He did it only that He did.
 
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Regardless of language we can see His majesty through His creation. No language of any age would be sufficient, no man qualified to describe Him.
 

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I am interested in this topic as well. I've never looked into old earth creationism in depth, but I do know that they interpret Genesis metaphorically.
In all honesty I DO see issues with that, because in Genesis we also have Abraham and Joseph and their stories and those are understood to be historical even in the secular world I believe?

I don't have an issue with taking part of the Bible non- literally on principle, though, because parts of it aren't meant to be literal. The Psalms aren't, Revelations isn't. The different books have different histories and different purposes.

In the end though, young or old earth honestly matters very little to me. I don't see it as central. I was raised on Answers in Genesis too, so I was taught to take young earth creationism very seriously, but after over the last few years hearing from old earth creationists they do seem to know what they are talking about. But i haven't looked deeply into it.
 
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1 Corinthians 13:12 KJVS
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

Psalm 131:1 KJVS
Lord , my heart is not haughty, nor mine eyes lofty: neither do I exercise myself in great matters, or in things too high for me.

While I wonder about many Biblical things I realize I have not the capacity to even ask the right questions. I trust Him with it all.
 

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Just a reminder that this is the Questions for Christians forum so comments should be addressed toward answering the one who started the thread. If you wish to continue this discussion beyond that, it is best to start a new thread in the appropriate forum.
 
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I believe God created the first human beings without a doubt (our culture calls them Adam and Eve) Yet I also believe that He implemented the evolutionary process as the means by which all variety is produced. The same with cats and dogs and birds and fish and so on. There are only three areas of dispute that the so-called "creationists" have with the so-called "evolutionists" that are against there being a God.

1. That the earth is only 6,000 years old
2. That dead matter one day became living via purely natural materialist causes, and
3. That singled celled creatures BECAME multicellular organisms which BECAME fish which BECAME amphibians which BECAME reptile and so on up to humans

A creator does not negate evolution any more than evolution negates a creator. When God MADE Adam and Eve He made them with the capacity through procreation to produce all the variety of humans we now enjoy and have...these many varieties came about through the evolutionary process (we now have all shades and sizes and body shapes imaginable). I see no conflict at all and I do not only believe in God, I believe God.
 

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Address your responses to the OP. Notice the color change here in my text!!
 
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God could have created the entire earth all things including dinosaur bones 2 seconds ago. The Bible itself evolved. I could spend the rest of my life taking one side or the other of the oxy-moron argument. What does that do ?
 
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Evolution is one point that is a struggle for many Christians. But if a Christian holds evolution as true and genesis and a lesser authority, or if a Christian holds genesis to be the authority and evolution to be in error. In either case we understand in part, and our faith is not dependant on knowing everything the correct way. Our faith is dependant on Jesus. He is Lord, and King of Kings.

That said those who struggle with evolution and come to conclusions that Genesis is not as trustworthy as Jesus claims scripture to be. Those Christians have an issue within their faith in God's word. It might weaken their faith as a whole, or they might lose out on being strengthened by the full acceptance and study of scripture. Hopefully not, but I think some are hurt by their misunderstanding.

I have heard of some Christians leaving their faith over this issue. Makes me sad to know that. It should be obvious that God is real, and then be more difficult to know what is from God and isn't. Not have the burden be to question God existing at all because of theories within evolutionary perspectives.
Well, the new testement writers seemed to believe the creation story was a literal account. If you trust their analisis.
 
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You raise a very interesting topic of conversation which is also controversial and the source of debates.
On one hand you have Genesis, the book describing creation and the origins of the universe and so forth. One the other you have Christians who also subscribe to the theory that all life has over millions of years evolved, and is the product of what we see today.

Some members here will remember when I joined CFnet I was not a Christian, but merely was exploring Christianity which is an interest of mine. I did believe that everything we see today evolved from something earlier in the timeline; at this point I was amazed to learn we actually share DNA characteristics with bananas which I find extraordinary! Even today, I believe some products we experience are progressing down their evolutionary timeline; an example would be flowers that adapt and modify to their surroundings. I can state I do not believe Adam and Eve were products of evolution, but that of an omnipotent creator.

This very topic is defined by a persons walk with Christ and their background. It is important to note that as Christians we share experiences but walk different paths; after all we have our own relationship with God.

I hope my above comments have shone some light onto your question tears4fears.
But then incest would be a serious problem.
 
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What evolution does is it removes the concept of how sin began to be in the human race. Evolutionism tells us sin wasn't brough into the world by one man but instead it was brough by a population or some other method.

Romans 5:12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned
Sin doesn't cause death, if that was the case honey would expire.
 
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