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You said "What I mean is it seems to be a trend that the enemy has sold into way to many Christians. Judge those who teach a message that is different then the so called traditional religious teaching".

She doesn't go against the "traditional". She goes against the whole bible.


Let me begin while there’s still ink left in my pen
I’m set to contend for truth you can bet will offend
Deception within the church, man who’s letting them in?
We talked about this years ago- let’s address it again
And I ain’t really trying to start beef
But some who claim to be part of the sheep got some sharp teeth
And cats get mean when you criticize them
But Jesus told us- Matthew 7:16, we can recognize them
And God forbid that for the love of some fans
I keep quiet and watch ‘em die with their blood on my hands
So there nothing left for me to do except to speak to you
In the spirit of Jude 3 and 2 Peter 2
And I know that some will label me a Pharisee
Because today the only heresy is saying that there’s heresy"
- shai linne
 
traditional religious teaching
I was saying this to refer to those who have a pre set mind such as those who say heeling is not for today or that God does not talk to us or prosperity is not in the bible......
 
Fish Catcher Jim said:
traditional religious teaching
I was saying this to refer to those who have a pre set mind such as those who say heeling is not for today or that God does not talk to us or prosperity is not in the bible......
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Never said any of them. They're not healers. Just snake-oil salesmen. Let's not get "caught up by every wind of doctrine" by going "Oh noes! Your judging!" for avoiding destructive words from those "whose mouths must be stopped (titus 1:11). I see a Christianized postmodermism where as long as people say "jesus died for your sins" they're legit.

They need to stop judging those who are judging anyway :dancing:
 
YosefHayim said:
Jesus is the only begotten Son of the Father. The same substance of God as the creed explains. In other words the only "god-kind" is Jesus Christ. If we are created beings and not gods [psalm 100:3], then we must call "cattle-kind" "god-kind" as well. We are the image, not the substance. That substance is in us, and empowers us, and justifies, but is not us.
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YH,
Joyce Meyer is a Name It And Claim It Heretic and as I recall without doing a long and silly search, that is not the only Heresy she teaches. You're calling down a brother i have tested and found to be true and myself in error with him. Jim is Bible based. If you or anyone else follows the ear tickler, JM, you, they and whom ever needs to become like the Bereans and search her teaching in the Bible, not the commentary, the New Testament but the Bible Jesus and Paul taught from.
 
Fish Catcher Jim said:
@YouefHayim and Deborah13 Hi,
Hey you may want to be a little more careful in what you are claiming here or believing and reposting as truth.
You will not ever please God with such gosip and putting down on a brother or a sister.
Read the word and you can find NO fault weith her teaching....Do a google search and you can join in with those who are falsly accusing her and her ministry... You are acting like unsaved spoiled children and Not born again spirit filled Christians...We DO NOT EVER have the right to put down on a brother or sister in the Lord or aqccvuse them falsly or put down thier teaching......dont claim the judge thier word or teaching because that does not cover these actions....

Am I sounding mean, ? Not my attention but come on here, live by the word
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Well Jim, did YOU actually listen to the video I posted?
If not maybe, just maybe you should not assume that what I posted was gossip ( is this not her speaking in the audio, do you think it has been doctored) or that I posted it because I object to what she said. Maybe I posted it for the reason I said I posted it. "You mean this teaching????" Simply asking if this was what he was talking about?
I happen to like Joyce Meyer. My dh really likes her and I have made that plain in other posts and threads. Even if she did get this teaching wrong she has gotten many more right and helped/helps innumerable people. I hardly think she should be put in a file titled ''Reprobate".

I find it rather ironic that in another thread I posted a full speech that Obama made and it was assumed that I was defending him and in this one just the opposite. We all jump to conclusions sometimes, usually based on our emotions. :neutral
 
Deborah13 said:
Well Jim, did YOU actually listen to the video I posted?
If not maybe, just maybe you should not assume that what I posted was gossip ( is this not her speaking in the audio, do you think it has been doctored) or that I posted it because I object to what she said. Maybe I posted it for the reason I said I posted it. "You mean this teaching????" Simply asking if this was what he was talking about?
I happen to like Joyce Meyer. My dh really likes her and I have made that plain in other posts and threads. Even if she did get this teaching wrong she has gotten many more right and helped/helps innumerable people. I hardly think she should be put in a file titled ''Reprobate".

I find it rather ironic that in another thread I posted a full speech that Obama made and it was assumed that I was defending him and in this one just the opposite. We all jump to conclusions sometimes, usually based on our emotions. :neutral
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Deborah13 Hi,
Shew simmer down girl...
Look even if a person thinks something is admiss with someones terachings does not give them the right to go around posting it and speaking down and aught about them....Bible scripture does not in any way say it is ok to do so. Let me say it another way...........

When people do not like something in God's Word, they try to twist it to fit their own needs and agendas. When people try to understand God through their worldly views instead of through the Holy Spirit's discernment, they are easily fooled by satans lies.........

For the most part all this judging around here concerning preachers and teachers etc is just that, understanding God and His written word through wordly views or a carnal mind. You can jump on me about this and label me anything you wish but it waont change anything..... I have read what others have said about certain people and when asked thery say yes the Lord showed them this and YET...funny thing it is word for word what some other person said off the net....

Now do any of these people then go and check out the source ? I doubt it very much, for if they had they would find other things that thier source claims that is so dumb you could not believe it if you were paid........

Now back to peoples words....... Before you begin to speak anything against a brother or sister you may want to truly the stud ther written word and find out what it says about doing this..... Now again.........I am talking to people and not simply one person........If what I said made you feel wronged or anything then I apologize and perhaps it might be in order to ask your self why it made you upset.......

So now you have it Deborah.........Don't read this as it is all about you......I aint never gona go there. LOL
Jim
 
Fish Catcher Jim said:
Deborah13 Hi,
Shew simmer down girl...
Look even if a person thinks something is admiss with someones terachings does not give them the right to go around posting it and speaking down and aught about them....Bible scripture does not in any way say it is ok to do so. Let me say it another way...........
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"@YouefHayim and Deborah13 Hi,
Hey you may want to be a little more careful in what you are claiming here or believing and reposting as truth.
You will not ever please God with such gosip and putting down on a brother or a sister."
:shrug

what I said made you feel wronged or anything then I apologize and perhaps it might be in order to ask your self why it made you upset.......

So now you have it Deborah.........Don't read this as it is all about you......I aint never gona go there. LOL
Jim
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I was not upset, I don't get that easily upset, just simply pointing out that ......
Was I posting gossip? No. Was I putting down Joyce Meyer? No.
 
Deborah13,
I was not upset, I don't get that easily upset, just simply pointing out that ......
Was I posting gossip? No. Was I putting down Joyce Meyer? No.

I saw this conversation going on......By the time I got your post with the utube video asking this message I decided to address this issue.......so I did.......thats all
 
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