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I will take that to mean that you don't know of a way then.
I was asking more about the XenForo capabilities. Perhaps you were answering that question too?
Sorry that I was unclear. I went to XenForo and had them make a quick trial forum for my testing purpose. It's only good for 3 days but allows research (which is something I love to do).

I believe it is possible to allow what used to be called "RO Rights" or 'View Permissions' if that terminology is better.

 
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If I may? This site has always in my 15 years, stayed clear of certain topics. The Holy Spirit is welcomed here and I think there is significant things a Christian man/woman should speak about. This includes the LGBT, abortion, gambling, porn/lust, etc. We should talk about it all, because each of us live on this planet and have the same troubles.. After all we are the Church and we are here to edify, glorify and at times, rebuke.
To have these topics open for debate? IMO, No!! These topics should be added to a sub-forum that is heavily monitored for any out of control post(s) and it should have regulations that no other forums have, because of the subject matter.. And of course 18+ only for this sorta sub-forum ..

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Hi sparrow.

From a technical perspective, the CT&A forum, along with the two locker rooms are hidden from those that don't have permission to post there. It has been purposefully designed so to be more private between the people those particular forums are for.

However, I am working on making the listing of these forums on the front page viewable so everyone knows they are there, but cannot view the contents. For example, if you aren't a member of the men's locker room, you wouldn't know it's there. There is a way to see that it is there but not see its contents. I am working on that, but have a long list of other things that need to be done first.
 

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Thanks. That would do it. BTW I like your thinking and congrats on a successful 'transition' to a new host.

It's good to be on a list - you're a top-down kind of guy so I won't worry it any longer. I'm still thinking about trying to encourage "Discussion" in the Debate areas. I can't come up with a way to do it except, as Atonement says, with heavy moderation (and delayed Posting). The broad strokes for the suggestion is to allow people to say, "Discussion Only Please" on their threads and hope that others respect that.

So far, that's the rub. Not everybody is going to be able to give their due. But eventually, and with a maturing audience, it should become easier. More like "self-moderated". Okay, I'm asking for the impossible, but that's what we're trained to do, isn't it? For God, all things are possible. For me? I'm thinking more about a 3 month trial and evaluation period.

=== Something else for the "Later" file, probably.
Good to see in in any case and thank you for the reply!
 

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I do very much like the idea of taking controlled controversy to the Christian Talk and Advice forum.
What would be nicer than to get that feeling of accomplishment after having a great discussion between family?
And, you never know, one could learn something too. It's okay for my ideas to be challenged. Mike suggested CT&A as a "perfect" place and so far? It is! Who'd have known, right?
 

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Thanks. That would do it. BTW I like your thinking and congrats on a successful 'transition' to a new host.

It's good to be on a list - you're a top-down kind of guy so I won't worry it any longer. I'm still thinking about trying to encourage "Discussion" in the Debate areas. I can't come up with a way to do it except, as Atonement says, with heavy moderation (and delayed Posting). The broad strokes for the suggestion is to allow people to say, "Discussion Only Please" on their threads and hope that others respect that.

So far, that's the rub. Not everybody is going to be able to give their due. But eventually, and with a maturing audience, it should become easier. More like "self-moderated". Okay, I'm asking for the impossible, but that's what we're trained to do, isn't it? For God, all things are possible. For me? I'm thinking more about a 3 month trial and evaluation period.

=== Something else for the "Later" file, probably.
Good to see in in any case and thank you for the reply!
The problem I see with specifying specific threads in a debate area as discussion only, is that they go against the principles of that particular forum. There are many non-debate forums where those issues can be discussed, like Bible Study or Christian Talk & Advice.

I personally would much prefer the heavier moderation in those two forums be applied to discussion-based OSAS threads (for example) rather than adding special rules to random threads in a debate forum. I.E. having different "levels" of rules for the one forum. To me, that kind of defeats the purpose of creating all these forums and categories.

As I said, we can see how the separation of Apologetics from Theology works out and look at this at a later date so see if a sub-forum would be appropriate.
 

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I do very much like the idea of taking controlled controversy to the Christian Talk and Advice forum.
What would be nicer than to get that feeling of accomplishment after having a great discussion between family?
And, you never know, one could learn something too. It's okay for my ideas to be challenged. Mike suggested CT&A as a "perfect" place and so far? It is! Who'd have known, right?
That's the thing. That's exactly the reason we have CT&A. For discussions amongst believers. If an OSAS thread were to appear in the CT&A, debate would be strictly controlled, like it is to every thread in CT&A.
 

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Thanks again (for keeping us apprised).
System view provides a unique perspective.

I have started a thread that touches the subject but my initial statement is something to the effect of, "So many great assurances and with the Holy Spirit as one of the many witnesses, it makes the whole OSAS debate moot," or some such thing. I may have done a better job at introducing the topic, but so far? It's very nice discussion between Christians.

I really did overlook the entire forum (maybe I'm not the only one) because most of the time I am in "Lurker" mode and do not log in. Hence my recent thought that brought your recent reply. My memory isn't what it used to be.

There won't be a way to force people to behave. God tells us to leave the tares for the harvest time because we are not willing to damage the wheat. Still, it's okay to encourage mature behavior and suggest that a Christian Forum should be noticeably different than what is seen in the world. He Banner over us may not yet be "LOVE" but it could be "AT least, we won't kill each other today," right?
 
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Thanks for your thoughts as always Sparrow. It's good to talk things over. I hope your thread goes well.

There is a feature where you can be logged in but remain "offline" to everyone but staff.
 
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If by "hot topics" we mean things such as LGBTQ, abortion, euthanasia, etc., then Apologetics would be a more appropriate forum.
Free,

I'm rather surprised that CFnet does not have a directory called, Ethics or Ethical issues.

I consider that LBGT, abortion, euthanasia/assisted suicide, IVF, capital punishment, war, civil disobedience, marriage and divorce, defacto relationships, environmentalism, promiscuity, HIV/AIDS etc would be better discussed in Ethical issues.

This would also allow for discussion of these kinds of ethical systems: lawlessness (or antinomianism), situation ethics, how to deal with conflicting absolutes. What biblical argument is there for or against what Corrie ten Boom did in Holland during World War 2 in hiding Jews from the Nazis?

Some ideas from a fellow traveller.

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There would probably be a lot of turmoil and anger as these are hot issues, to say the least. I am brand new today and so I am not familiar with things here, but from my previous Forum experiences dialogues can get out of control when sensitive/controversial issues are debated. Is there a strong enough bonding between Forum Members here that discussing controversial issues won't cause tribulation, animosity, and schism among the Brothers and Sisters?
 
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There would probably be a lot of turmoil and anger as these are hot issues, to say the least. I am brand new today and so I am not familiar with things here, but from my previous Forum experiences dialogues can get out of control when sensitive/controversial issues are debated. Is there a strong enough bonding between Forum Members here that discussing controversial issues won't cause tribulation, animosity, and schism among the Brothers and Sisters?
Welcome, Harbison. I'm pleased you have found us and joined with some posts.

I'm not of the view that contentious issues should not be discussed on a Christian forum. This is where we should be able to do some biblical expositions to deal with the 'hot issues'.

In my part of the world, I find pastors who are reluctant to take a stand from the pulpit in dealing with being salt and light in our world. As a result, many evangelical Christians don't know what the biblical views are of abortion, euthanasia/assisted suicide, promiscuity, HIV/AIDS, divorce, etc.

My perspective when teaching in these areas is: (1) Let's examine what the Scriptures state about this topic; (2) Examine the contentious issues for that topic in the community and church; (3) Reach some conclusions, in humility, with the proviso: (4) I'm not a perfect exegete; I may be wrong; please come to discuss with me (preferably in my office) your biblical reasons for disagreement.

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I think you're probably right. Its just that I have had bad experiences in this regard at other Forums.
If you would care to mail me a round-trip flight to Australia, I would be more than happy to discuss this with you at your office.
 
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Welcome, Harbison. I'm pleased you have found us and joined with some posts.

I'm not of the view that contentious issues should not be discussed on a Christian forum. This is where we should be able to do some biblical expositions to deal with the 'hot issues'.

In my part of the world, I find pastors who are reluctant to take a stand from the pulpit in dealing with being salt and light in our world. As a result, many evangelical Christians don't know what the biblical views are of abortion, euthanasia/assisted suicide, promiscuity, HIV/AIDS, divorce, etc.

My perspective when teaching in these areas is: (1) Let's examine what the Scriptures state about this topic; (2) Examine the contentious issues for that topic in the community and church; (3) Reach some conclusions, in humility, with the proviso: (4) I'm not a perfect exegete; I may be wrong; please come to discuss with me (preferably in my office) your biblical reasons for disagreement.

Oz
You better be setting down OZ... we agree :)
 

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