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  1. JoJoe

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    Lol! No matter if you like anime or not... Most people like Dragon Ball.

    I can't stand dubs, most things translated from Japanese is just... Awkward.

    Seems not as painful in subs... To me at least and let's face it woman play most protagonist.

    My favorite anime is Ippo no hajima or fighting spirit. I like boxing and this anime was perfect for me at the time. Plus the fillers are always funny.
     
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    Haha. Some dubs are better than others. Though the only ones that genuinely bother me are the censored ones...like 4Kids. I'm an adult, I don't need my entertainment censored out the wazoo. But then I suppose 4Kids isn't for adults anyway, and the only anime I've watched where that was the only dub was Sonic X. (Sonic X sucks. Too kidish, even in Japanese.)

    On Dragon Ball, the reason I'm surprised that I like it is because it's like 95% fighting, and I tend to go more for character interaction. I suppose there's simply enough interaction there to keep my interest.
    I mean, I can enjoy fighting and battles. But when it drags on for a long time I get bored.
     
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    Say, do you read manga?

    I read a quote by Toriyama where he stated that he didn't like how the people producing the anime made Goku a righteous hero. Well, here's the actual quote:
    And in a way that makes sense and makes Goku's character more interesting. It was stated (in the Kai dub, at least) that the reason he let Vegeta go was because he wanted to fight him again. (I haven't read the entire manga, though I have gone to look up specific parts to compare to the portrayal in the anime and see what was different.)
    At the same time, even with what Toriyama said, I have a really hard time seeing Goku as an entirely selfish guy. He's good natured and is shown to not want to kill things without good reason. (Aside from the animals he eats, heh.) And he obviously cares about his family and friends and other people--including in his manga portrayal. Many of the things Goku did was for the sake of others, from taking down the Red Ribbon Army tower because of their oppressive power, to risking losing the four star dragon ball (which was his keepsake to remember his grandfather by) in order to restore the life of another boy's father, and he would have killed Piccolo Jr if doing so would not have ended Kami's life, etc.
    But I guess his primary motivation of being stronger being his main driving force doesn't have to mean he doesn't actually care about other people. People aren't purely good anyway, and Saiyans are basically an evil race because they have a strong bloodlust. So Goku being a Saiyan and yet being purely good or purely motivated by good wouldn't make much sense. (Even if Goku is an unusual Saiyan anyway, because he only wants a good fight. He doesn't want to kill.)

    I suppose it's possible for him to have a good heart but without his motivations necessarily being entirely pure. He's motivated by his own impulses, not by wanting to be a "good guy".
    And I suppose if that's the case and he still ends up doing good things...well, you could say that's more purehearted than doing good things because you want to be "good"--y'know?
    Righteous, definitely not. But purehearted, yes.
     
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    Yeah I do read manga and Sonic X wasn't what I hoped it would be. Otaku since 88'!
    Thanks to my dad I suppose for playing Astro Boy and Fist of north star when I was like 3, never stopped since.

    I never looked at the Drangonball manga mainly because I was content with anime. I knew it was changed cause mainly most manga get either toned down or changed(Pokemon for example). I might look at it now though because that is quite interesting.

    What's worse to me is what Hollywood does to manga or anime. Priest for instance... Originally it is a manhwa(Korean manga). The original is about twelve fallen angels and not just vampires. Ugh... Vampires....

    The only manga I am still reading currently is One Piece. I can't stand the anime for some reason... Probably the voice acting.
     
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    I've only heard of the horror or anime movie adaptions, not specifically seen. Dragon Ball Evolution lol

    Recently I read a manga adaption of Sword Art Online. I want to maybe get the original light novels sometime. I think the GGO arc isn't available in English yet, though,
    A friend has like 20 volumes of Inuyasha and is letting me borrow a couple at a time, so I'm reading that now.

    I've only been into anime for two or three years now. Growing up my mom never approved of it, even though what anime was on tv at the time was censored and pretty innocent.
     
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    So Dragon Ball GT isn't manga canon. I get the idea that if I watched it I would both like and hate it.

    With a new Dragon Ball series coming out this July, I guess it won't really matter anyway? Cause Toriyama's overseeing this one. Hm, I wonder, does that make it canon...?
     
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    Watched a couple episodes of Kai way ahead there to see part of a specific arc. Haha, Gohan's Japanese voice is a lot like Goku's.
     
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    I actually just powered through all of GT. Its not bad, but its very confused. The power levels are weird and it has no idea if it wants to be action pact or comedic. The finale feels like a good way to leave the series. I feel that Toriyama picking up the series and retconing GT is a mistake on his part. I am going to watch it, but lord do I think that he's about to find out why Toe abandoned GT and ended it early. The IP is way to invested and there is no way the fans are going to be happy. Also Toriyama quit the story because it became redundant in the first place. Where exactly can the story go from here?
     
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    Toe as in toe animation?
     
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    Yep, the one and only. :)
     
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    I would probably enjoy GT mainly for the comedy, have to admit.
    I do see what you're saying. I did enjoy the movie Battle of Gods from a couple years back, but running franchises into the ground doesn't end well.
     
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    The real problem with GT is that the fanbase had no idea how to react to it. DBZ was very action orientated. The first season was pretty cohesive and interesting because it broke out of the box that Toriyama wrote himself in with the Freeza through Boo seasons. The problem was the DBZ fans just wanted more Boo saga, so Bebie was introduced a whole season too early and ham fisted to save ratings. The the super 17 saga came in and all the character building and was tossed right out the window and it became a juke box of old villains and self reference. You can litteraly remove the entire super 17 story and the finale would not change at all, except for one death. The show was fun but since the fan base did not want any kind of change in the show format, it killed itself.
     
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    they also worked on transformers gen one.
     
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    And the first season of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. :3
     
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    I didn't know that.I haven't watched the turtles in ages.
     
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    One season of Legend of Korra was animated by Studio Perriot, the studio that animates Naruto.
    They aren't the best animators, though. Their animation on the current Naruto episodes is pretty bad/lazy.

    Though I have yet to see anything that tops this:
     
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    Anybody watch/ed Death Note?
    Here's a Death Note parody of a song by a YouTuber known as Natewantstobattle:
     
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    My friend showed me the first episode... I then bought(I don't usually buy most anime) and pulled an all nighter till it was done. One of my favorite anime by far, the movies were awesome as well. Thanks for sharing that video, very interesting.
     
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    Since I made a post where I rambled about Goku's character, here's a copy of a couple tumblr posts where I do so further:
    Cuz the guy is a flippin enigma when viewed in the light of Toriyama's comments, and it makes him mysterious and interesting to try to figure out. Also, I kinda hate it when people take what Toriyama said and say that it makes Goku a bad guy...he's such a good natured, amiable guy, I have a really hard time seeing him in a bad light. To be honest, that's my primary reason for devoting as much thought to it as I have. XD Though, don't get me wrong, it's also just fun to try to figure the guy out. His thought process is very internal, so we don't often see his reasoning pointblank.
     
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    It's definitely one of the best and most interesting anime I've watched :)
     

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