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The Bible never defines just one Antichrist, but says even now there are many, 1 John 2:18. We have to remember that Satan is a created spirit and needs to work through others in order to build his literal kingdom here on earth. This will be a Luciferian political, economic and a religious power that will sit upon the mount of the congregation in the sides of the north which is Jerusalem and cause the greatest falling away from truth, which is an abomination of desolation unlike any other.

Jesus said those who will endure in the faith of Christ unto the end the same shall be saved, Matthew 24:13. Satan said, I will ascend into heaven; I will exalt my throne above the stars of God (other ruling powers) I will sit also upon the Mount of the Congregation in the sides of the north (Jerusalem). I will ascend above the clouds, I will be like the Most High, Isaiah 14:12-15.

2Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

The last antichrist, (as there have been many and even now are in the world), is the son of perdition being the false prophet that Satan works through as he will sit on the sides of the North declaring himself as being God and will cause many to bow down to him and take his mark as many will believe the signs and wonders he will show, Rev 13. Again, nowhere in scripture does it capitalize antichrist, but mans misinterpretations capitalize it and makes it one Antichrist.
 

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We better keep our eyes open in these days
Yes as we see more devastation on a global level instead of a localized level. We have to be patient and know everything is in Gods timing, but until then we must be about our Fathers business.
 

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People will believe anything that makes them feel good as part of this world, but yet neglect the Spiritual things from above where God sits on His throne. God said it, the Holy Spirit revealed it and that's good enough for me.
 
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People should make sure they have the right faith and basis shouldn't they
The flesh is weak and sinful isn't it
I might rather be a martyr than make my home here apart from the Creator and Savior, but money and visible things seem tempting and nice and my perception of time and who to follow apart from God...this is confusing and I lack. People misuse power in the homes and workplace, so then what tools should be ilegal or require certification...but it seems just about anyone can become a politician or Hollywod star or false prophet edited reba Or maybe some people are naive. Mankind seems so filthy sometimes...and abusive...but just nice enough to draw you in and trick you perhaps.

I'd rather not have such conflict or might worry if people have peace apart from the Creator. But peace is good isn't it
Maybe people should focus on the gospel and spiritual things like the heart
Not that money and power is bad...or that people only do bad. Sorry I don't have much useful to say here. And people do like their ego fed. I don't understand why people pray for repentance to obey the law and have their boast in it..in war or peace it seems godless to me so nobody wants to hear it. I'm not necessarily agreeing with you, I hopefully prefer the Bible and hopefully not my own thoughts.

Some people might be quick to skim over and block out what words really mean. Adults have so many traditions. I hope if I talk to cheery happy Christians and talk to ones debating fiercely and more isolated...I just don't know what to do to actually help.
But if someone is a sinner with sin in their heart, they might get isolated from people and suffer losses if they end up realizing the answer isn't with those people is it. But even in isolation can a person read the Bible right...if they don't have the right way...I can't figure it out
 

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Hi Temperate and welcome to CF, :wave2

There is the secular world and the Spiritual world. The secular world is all about self and self gain, carnal knowledge, action and the power of it. None of that will ever be pleasing to the Lord. It's when we get into the Spiritual things from above is when we let go of the carnal things that are only temporal. How do we do that, by seeking God and having a personal relationship with Christ through the Spiritual rebirth Jesus spoke of in John 3:5, 6 and Romans 10:9,10. This is the beginning of Spiritual understanding as we let go of what the carnal man teaches (bandwagon gospel) and read for ourselves what has already been written in the letters (Bible) of the Apostles of Christ who witnessed and testified of Christ and what He already spoke for all the generations to come. It's up to each individual to seek and come to the full knowledge of Christ as only the Holy Spirit can reveal the deeper Spiritual wisdom and understanding.

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1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. 2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. 4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
 
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The Bible never defines just one Antichrist, but says even now there are many, 1 John 2:18. We have to remember that Satan is a created spirit and needs to work through others in order to build his literal kingdom here on earth. This will be a Luciferian political, economic and a religious power that will sit upon the mount of the congregation in the sides of the north which is Jerusalem and cause the greatest falling away from truth, which is an abomination of desolation unlike any other.
Can't agree,satan will not work through anyone,it will be him live and in person.
Remember he was in the Garden
Remember Gen 6,the angels came down.
Remember the two angels from Gen 19

When satan gets kicked out of Heaven he comes here pretending to be Christ,and his angels,the locust army comes with him....

Daniel's 4th kingdom is super natural
 

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Can't agree,satan will not work through anyone,it will be him live and in person.
Remember he was in the Garden
Remember Gen 6,the angels came down.
Remember the two angels from Gen 19

When satan gets kicked out of Heaven he comes here pretending to be Christ,and his angels,the locust army comes with him....

Daniel's 4th kingdom is super natural
How can it be Satan alive and in person. God created the earth and saw that it was good and he took Lucifer from Gods Holy Mountain and set him over the Garden of Eden as a covering cherub to watch over and enjoy all that was of God. As Lucifer was set in the garden iniquity was soon found in him as he defiled Gods sanctuary through pride in his own beauty and deceit as he wanted all that was of Gods here on earth to be his own as he tried to make his throne above the angels and be God, Ezekiel 28:11-19 is a dual reference to Satan

I will not get into the sons of God in Genesis 6 as that has nothing to do with the OP and is another topic that would derail this one. The two angels in Genesis 19 had to take on the form of man for Gods purpose in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah
 
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How can it be Satan alive and in person. God created the earth and saw that it was good and he took Lucifer from Gods Holy Mountain and set him over the Garden of Eden as a covering cherub to watch over and enjoy all that was of God. As Lucifer was set in the garden iniquity was soon found in him as he defiled Gods sanctuary through pride in his own beauty and deceit as he wanted all that was of Gods here on earth to be his own as he tried to make his throne above the angels and be God, Ezekiel 28:11-19 is a dual reference to Satan

I will not get into the sons of God in Genesis 6 as that has nothing to do with the OP and is another topic that would derail this one. The two angels in Genesis 19 had to take on the form of man for Gods purpose in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah
Lucifer turned before the Garden,that's the point in scripture I'm trying to show
 
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How can it be Satan alive and in person. God created the earth and saw that it was good and he took Lucifer from Gods Holy Mountain and set him over the Garden of Eden as a covering cherub to watch over and enjoy all that was of God. As Lucifer was set in the garden iniquity was soon found in him as he defiled Gods sanctuary through pride in his own beauty and deceit as he wanted all that was of Gods here on earth to be his own as he tried to make his throne above the angels and be God, Ezekiel 28:11-19 is a dual reference to Satan

I will not get into the sons of God in Genesis 6 as that has nothing to do with the OP and is another topic that would derail this one. The two angels in Genesis 19 had to take on the form of man for Gods purpose in the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah
I did the sons of God and the angels from Sodom to show that angels can be seen here,meaning not needing to posses someone

In other words satan will come to this earth as himself,pretending to be Christ
 

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I did the sons of God and the angels from Sodom to show that angels can be seen here,meaning not needing to posses someone

In other words satan will come to this earth as himself,pretending to be Christ
Not relevant to the OP so will not further discuss the sons of God.
 
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In other words Satan will come to this earth as himself,pretending to be Christ
That I agree with.

I think Rev 6:2 is Satan.
So I looked and saw a white horse, and its rider had a bow. And he was given a crown, and rode out to conquer and defeat.....trying to imitate Christ in Rev 19:11 Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war.
 
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Hmmm, so then if Satan comes to earth pretending to be Christ, and then we already know by that , that the first " Jesus " who shows up is actually Satan trying to trick us into believing he's Jesus, this means that we can merely reject him and wait for the true Christ !

...well, ....sounds good on paper at first glance, but then the Bible also says that even the elect are deceived

So how can we reject Satan, who when he shows up, is pretending to be Jesus ,....when scriptures says nothing of the sort, and to boot, this view of " we have it all figured out " invalidates the Bible by saying " we won't be fooled by the fake Jesus " ?

The logic here escapes me, I must admit, even though I have heard this premise of " Satan tries to trick you into thinking he's Jesus " many times, along with the one single verse ( Satan transformed as an angel of light ) used to support something that should be ( if it were actually true ) covered in many many verses

Seems to me there is more to the story

People say things like " I'll just know it's the real Jesus in my heart ",..... but the Bible says the heart is deceitful above all
 
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That I agree with.

I think Rev 6:2 is Satan.
So I looked and saw a white horse, and its rider had a bow. And he was given a crown, and rode out to conquer and defeat.....trying to imitate Christ in Rev 19:11 Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war.
The only thing that's hindering the rider on the white horse (Rev 6:2) from totally conquering the United States Is Our Constitution..
 

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Hmmm, so then if Satan comes to earth pretending to be Christ, and then we already know by that , that the first " Jesus " who shows up is actually Satan trying to trick us into believing he's Jesus, this means that we can merely reject him and wait for the true Christ !

...well, ....sounds good on paper at first glance, but then the Bible also says that even the elect are deceived

So how can we reject Satan, who when he shows up, is pretending to be Jesus ,....when scriptures says nothing of the sort, and to boot, this view of " we have it all figured out " invalidates the Bible by saying " we won't be fooled by the fake Jesus " ?

The logic here escapes me, I must admit, even though I have heard this premise of " Satan tries to trick you into thinking he's Jesus " many times, along with the one single verse ( Satan transformed as an angel of light ) used to support something that should be ( if it were actually true ) covered in many many verses

Seems to me there is more to the story

People say things like " I'll just know it's the real Jesus in my heart ",..... but the Bible says the heart is deceitful above all
Scripture does not say the elect are deceived as it says if it were possible these false Christ and false prophets will try to deceive the very elect. Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

The rider on the white horse in Rev 6:2 is not Satan for he has not been thrown out of heaven yet. This is a false Christ that rides the white horse as he carries a bow with him as he goes forth conquering and to conquer.