Antichrist

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  1. for_his_glory

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    ezrider, it's not that we are looking for sin as you don't have to look very far for that in the world, but that of what is produced by sin that we keep safe guarded from its deceptions.
     
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    A wise old sage once said to me that there is only one voice he was listening for in the world: he was listening for the voice of the friend of the bridegroom.


    If we are children of God, then we are spiritual children, following after the things of the Spirit. Why would we be looking for signs in the flesh for that which is Spiritual?

    If your looking for an antichrist, then are you listening for the manifestation of the Sons of God?
     
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    I can truly say,agree to disagree...Thank for a good discussion though.

    But as far as changed to immortal,only the over comers are changed to immortality,those who did not, although changed,will still have a mortal soul,meaning they can die the 2nd death,which is the death of the soul.....
     
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    Thank you also for a good discussion even though we do not agree, but just want to leave you with this:

    Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

    Death and hell are the second death as there will be no more death or need of the grave after Christ returns and those not found in the Lambs Book of Life will be cast into the lake of fire
     
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    Revelation 20:12"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."

    Notice there are two sets of books here. The first called "The Books" is to judge the unsaved. The second is the "Book of Life" where only the names of the saved are recorded. The saved have had their sins removed from God's judgment and booted out. Though they were committed, the blood of Christ has covered them from being used against us.

    Notice how all souls are judged "according to their works". Does it talk about faith here after the Millennium? No. The "great white throne judgment" will not take faith into consideration. The first resurrection takes faith into consideration. That was back on "the Lord's day". That was Jesus Christ's "great day". On the last day of the Millennium age, souls are judged by works only.

    Why are you judged for works only? Faith is something hoped for but unseen. You don't see Jesus Christ on earth today, you will see his wonderful works, and be led by Him and His Spirit in the Millennium age. Today He is in heaven and not walking on this earth. However, in the millennium, He will be on earth, and all will have full intelligence, with full recall and will be taught. The Heavenly Father honors all those with grace, that have accepted His Son by faith through repentance without Christ's physical presence here on earth, if you believed in His Word.

    To those who are not under grace in the Millennium, their salvation will be only through and by their works. For faith doesn't exist to them. There will be no ignorance, physical handicap, for you will see, know, and experience Our Lord first hand.

    If you follow the Antichrist, the first Christ to appear, you will have forfeited your salvation in this earth age. You will not be under the grace of God, and your works will be the only thing that matters on the last day of the Millennium, the day of judgment. They will be judged by works alone, for they have seen Jesus Christ, and are without excuse. The "rapture theory" leaves believers defenseless against Satan, for they will be taken in by Satan's deceptions.
     
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    The last antichrist is the son of perdition (false prophet), John 17:12; 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12, that Satan works through. Remember Satan is the total opposite of God and as God works through those who are His as a vessel of honor and glory to Him Satan also works through those that are his for his purpose of stealing others faith in Christ.

    There are two judgements as the one is the judgement seat of Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:10, where we who are of Christ by that of Gods grace through faith alone, Ephesians 2:8; will be given our rewards as we are not judged

    Those not under Gods grace at the time of Christ return have already sealed their fate as they have taken the mark of this beast and will then stand before Gods judgement as their names are not in the Lambs Book of Life. These are they who will be cast into the lake of fire for their works were never done by faith in Christ, Matthew 7:21-27; Matthew 25:31-46.
    Those who have been gathered to Christ as His own when He returns are not judged by works, but given reward for the works of Christ they did while here on earth, 2 Corinthians 5:10.

    Those who are not found written in the Lamb's Book of Life are found in the other books and Gods judgement against them for rejecting Him are then found guilty and cast into the lake of fire, Rev 20:15.

    Our faith is Christ Jesus who is the author and finisher of it as while here on earth when we did fall short at times God was always quick to chastise us and set our feet straight again so we stand before Christ blameless and without excuse, Hebrews 12:1-8.

    Christ returns right before the millennium as we are gathered to Him at that time and evermore with Him, Rev 19. At that time the beast and false prophet (antichrist) will be cast into the lake of fire and all the Kings that rule ever nation are slain by the words Christ speaks then Satan is bound for a time, Rev chapter 19.

    I do not believe in a literal 1000 years being literal, but only symbolic of a certain period of time as nowhere else in scripture does it mention a literal 1000 year reign of Christ here on earth, but symbolic as in Deuteronomy 7:9; 1Chronicles 16:15; Psalms 50:10; 90:4; 105:8 Ecc 6:6; 7:28; Daniel 5:1; 2Peter 3:8. I believe everything from the time Christ returns up to the great White Throne Judgement will happen very quickly.

    Those who have rejected Gods grace, or as you put it not under His grace, are not saved even if they did good works as they have done those things of themselves and not for the Lord as they never were in Gods will nor truly confessed Christ as Lord and Savior as they only gave lip service for the Lord, but were never His own. These are those who God will reject, Matthew 7:21-23.

    Those who take the mark of this beast and bow down to him have already sealed their fate and will be cast into the lake of fire, Rev 20:15. Even if they had good works that does not count for them as they are without excuse as they have not Christ in them as they never confessed Him as Lord and Savior and now to late to do so. It's like one of those after the fact things as they will see Christ in all His glory, but to late as Christ has already gathered His own to Him.
     
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    Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.
    1 John 2:18


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    In the KJV antichrist is not capitalized. It's when you get into the newer versions of the Bible that some words are different and can change the whole meaning of the word. The last antichrist is the son of perdition, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, who is the beast false prophet out of the earth in Rev 13.
     
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    Is that antichrist coming or is 2 Thessalonians 2 in the past.

    The Antichrist, the main one in the Bible who is the False Messiah, of 2 Thessalonians 2, is the one that God uses to deceive those who refuse to love the truth.

    The reject Jesus as Messiah, and are wanting to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem so their "messiah" will come.

    Look at this verse that shows us, that it is God Himself send them strong delusion, because they did not love the truth.

    11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12


    This false messiah will be personally destroyed by Jesus Himself; by the brightness of His coming.

    And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 2 Thessalonians 2:8


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    The son of perdition being the last antichrist (false Christ) is yet future as he is the beast that rises up out of the earth as we read in Rev Chapter 13. This is a Luciferian priesthood and its agenda includes total global control over political, military, economic, educational, religious and environmental systems for the deceptive purpose of ensuring global peace, prosperity and order during the timing of the seventh trumpet.

    The first six trumpets are Gods chastisements on those who refuse to repent and turn back to His grace. The whole world will be thrown into total chaos and fear as everyone his brother will turn on each other if they have not the love of Christ in them as there will be little to no resources left for survival and man will do anything in order to survive. Many will be seeking a savior type in their time of distress an uncertainty as they will bow down to this false Christ that will promise them provision and safety as many will take its mark, but yet rejecting the true Savior Christ Jesus.
     

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