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The First Witness

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Biblical Accuracy, Right-on or Far-Out.

I believe Luke 22-30 will soon recognized as one of the most accurate
(plain as day) verses ever written in history. What do you think?

Luke: 22-30
22)†Then he said to the disciples, The time will come when you wish you could see one of the days of the Son of Man, but you will not see it. There will be those who will say to you, Look over there! Or Look over here! But don’t go out looking for it. As the lighting flashes across the sky and lights it up from one side to the other, so will the Son of Man be in his day. But first he must suffer much and be rejected by the people of his day. As it was in the time of Noah so shall it be in the days of the Son of Man. Everyone kept on eating and drinking, buying and selling and building. On the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and killed them all.

30)That is how it will be on the day the Son of Man is revealed.â€Â

The above could answer many questions such as:

1) Will we recognize Him…if we did recognize Him then why “but first he must He suffer and be rejected by the people of his day†would we knowingly go this to Him for a second time?…. No. First, First we make Him suffer because we do not recognize Him. Just exactly as it says

2) “the Son of Man is revealed†“revealed,†which means “to expose to view what was hidden, to divulge a secret or mystery.†It should be noted that if something is hidden, it has been there all the time…and is a secret thing.

If the Bible is accurate please note, these events; Christ and the Two Witnesses return, that they will be revealed to you, just exactly as the Bible stated, prophesied and emphaszed. The word “revealed†is repeated and repeated.

Right-on!
 
The First Witness said:
Biblical Accuracy, Right-on or Far-Out.


Luke: 22-30
22)†Then he said to the disciples, The time will come when you wish you could see one of the days of the Son of Man, but you will not see it. There will be those who will say to you, Look over there! Or Look over here! But don’t go out looking for it. As the lighting flashes across the sky and lights it up from one side to the other, so will the Son of Man be in his day. But first he must suffer much and be rejected by the people of his day. As it was in the time of Noah so shall it be in the days of the Son of Man. Everyone kept on eating and drinking, buying and selling and building. On the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and killed them all.


If the Bible is accurate please note, these events; Christ and the Two Witnesses return, that they will be revealed to you, just exactly as the Bible stated, prophesied and emphasized. The word “revealed†is repeated and repeated.


I'm still trying to figure this all out !

Did not Christ suffer, and was He NOT rejected by the people at the First Advent [Isaiah 53:3-5] ? So wouldn't the verse that you quoted above be speaking of the First Advent, I mean they DID shout out, CRUCIFY HIM ! As it was written 1, 000 before the fact in PALMS 22 ? Even Jesus Christ Himself quoted the Psalm 22, teaching while He was on the cross, showing both them and us that the prophecy of Psalm 22 and Genesis 3:15 was coming to pass, just as it was written.

With regards to the " two witnesses"; do they NOT appear BEFORE Jesus Christ returns ? And not WITH Him, but BEFORE the Second Advent, as it is written...

Revelation 11:7
" And when they [ they being the two witnesses] have FINISHED their testimony, the BEAST (Revelation 17:8-[bottomless pit ? Who is in the bottomless pit ?] & Revelation 13:11-14 [he looks like the Lamb of God, but spake as a dragon, because he is the dragon] & Revelation 12:9-[ that great dragon was cast out.. cast out ? cast out of the bottomless pit; that old serpent, called the devil, and satan... satan has many names.. he is the son of perdition - II Thessalonians 2:3-4] THAT ASCENDETH OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT SHALL MAKE WAR AGAINST THEM, AND SHALL OVERCOME THEM, AND KILL THEM.

Revelation 11:8
" And their [their= the two witnesses] DEAD BODIES shall lie in the street of the great city, which SPIRITUALLY is called Sodom and Egypt, where ALSO OUR LORD WAS CRUCFIED. " [ Spiritually = "Vice" was in Sodom & Gomorrah & "Tyranny" in Egypt, these about describe the people who have taken over the Temple in the Holy City, and that is what will be going on there at that time; as it is written in II Thessalonians 2:4 ]


Now after this it goes on to say that they shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in the graves, as it is written in PSALM 79:1-3; and they all shall make merry over them, it will become a holiday because these two witnesses can no longer tormment them with God's Truth, these two witnesses can no longer let the people know that this one claiming to be Jesus Christ [Revelation 12:9 & II Thessalonians 2:4] is really the son of perdition, the instead of Christ, the abomination of desolation. [ II Thessalonians 2:3; Mark 13:14; Mark 13:21 ]

And after THREE AND A HALF DAYS the Spirit of Life entered into them FROM GOD; And they stood upon their feet, AND GREAT FEAR FELL UPON THEM WHICH SAW ! And these two witness are no longer dead, but have now ascended up to Heaven in a cloud. And following that we also see a tenth part of the city fell, as Christ said it would in Mark 13:2, that not ONE STONE WOULD BE LEFT STANDING!; at this time the west wall still stands ! Then WE read in the 15th verse of this same chapter...

Revelation 11:15
" AND THE SEVENTH ANGEL SOUNDED; and there were great voices in
Heaven, saying THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD ARE BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD, AND OF HIS CHRIST; AND HE SHALL REIGN
[reign here on earth, Christ is coming here!] FOREVER, AND EVER. "
[II Thessalonians 2:9 clearly states that Even Christ or Him, " WHOSE COMING IS AFTER THE WORKING OF SATAN"]

So Christ does not return UNTIL AFTER the two witnesses finish their testimony; their testimony is AGAINST the beast that ascended OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT, Revelation 13:6-8, AND WAS CAST OUT UPON THE EARTH, as it is written in Revelation 12:9 & Revelation 12:12, WOE UNTO THE INHABITORS OF THE EARTH AND OF THE SEA, FOR THE DEVIL IS CAST DOWN UNTO YOU! [Revelation 9:5 Christ shortened the time to Five Months, also written in Mark 13:20]

What about all this that is written ? The false messiah, the instead of christ or anti-christ, satan playing Jesus Christ comes in the 6th Trump to deceive most of the world, EXCEPT for all those that have the SEAL of God, meaning God's truth, meaning they know that he is the fake [Mark 13:21-22 & also revelation 13:13-14]; and the TRUE JESUS CHRIST COMES IN THE 7th TRUMP; AFTER the workings of satan [ II Thessalonians 2:9]. Six comes BEFORE seven right ? It is also written that those that are deceived are praying for the rocks, mountains to fall on them, but death shall flee from them... and what about what Christ said that many will say Lord, Lord open unto us, but He tells them to depart from Him, all them that work iniquity; Is this maybe because they worshiped the WRONG Jesus..? the fake one ? The one that comes BEFORE the TRUE JESUS CHRIST ? I mean in the time of Noah they were marrying to the fallen angles, the sons of God that left their place of habitation as it is written in Jude; those same angels are cast out with satan Revelation 12:9, Jesus Christ told us that they would again be drinking and giving in marriage; Christ said it will be JUST LIKE in the days of Noah. Am I reading these Scriptures all wrong, you tell me.... because I am trying to figure it out.. I don't want to be wrong, this is one reason I joined this forum in the first place to get others insight on how the end of this world age will be. Maybe you can help !

:o Abiyah
 
First witness,

If being revealed means you were hidden and yet all of the things that were supposed to happen had happened. Who would believe the man who said he was who you are looking for when he reveals himself ? That is the same problem today as it was for jesus, no believers in what it says in the bible. The savior has to have done all of the things that jesus and the messiah are said to do and then some and yet you refuse to look behind the door that he shows you for the residue he left behind. Simplify and play a great game of human chess and nobody sees a thing until he has his foot on Satans head.
 
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