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BREAKING NEWS: King Solomon's Mines Discovered !

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Biblical skeptics suffered a devastating blow this Monday October 27, 2008 when the prestigious National Academy of Sciences reported that an international team of archaeologists has uncovered the copper mines owned and operated by the biblical King Solomon in an ancient mining and metallurgy district in southern Jordan.

Watch this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOclzlBMA-o
 
Wow that's an interesting development. And that happens to be supplemental to something I read a while back in the most unexpected way. Since I'm a big Biblical Archaeology buff I've done lots of research into archaeology of the Ancient Near East, and I recall reading an article once that stated that while archaeological sites were plenteous in Israel and Moab (modern day Jordan), that Edom was one of the areas where we didn't have very many archaeological remains from the Biblical period. And it only mentioned that Edom had copper mines. Interesting that this find would be about copper mines in Edom! That article I read was written probably 5 or so years ago, long before this discovery. I wonder if the location of the mines is the same archaeological site as those mine mentioned in the article? At the time, when I read the article, I believe it mentioned that the site had only been partially excavated to date. Perhaps this recent development was the result of further excavation on that site. And if not then there are two copper mine sites (or more) in the area where ancient Edom once was, which would also be equally exciting - with twice (or more) as many resources to study from.

When I get the time later this weekend I'll try to investigate this in more depth and tell you my evaluation of the find. But thanks for posting!

P.S. No doubt they are copper mines, but whether or not they are the legendary "Solomons Mines" of the stories is a different matter altogether. However in the sense of strict literal ownership King David expanded his kingdom to Moab, Edom and other territories around Israel and across the Jordan. So it very well could have been a mine in Edom that was mined during Solomon's rule over the territory in Edom.

God Bless,

~Josh
 
I can't find that same article I mentioned that I read years ago, but the location it mentioned may be been the Timnah Mines (click here). That page also has another link to a location called "Solomon's Pillars". Take a look at the pictures that show a clear sign of mining and resource storage.
 
As an interesting aside: Did you know that the Bible mentions, and even goes into some level of detail about, metal mining? Check out Job 28:

1 "There is a mine for silver
and a place where gold is refined.

2 Iron is taken from the earth,
and copper is smelted from ore.

3 Man puts an end to the darkness;
he searches the farthest recesses
for ore in the blackest darkness.

4 Far from where people dwell he cuts a shaft,
in places forgotten by the foot of man; far from men he dangles and sways.

5 The earth, from which food comes,
is transformed below as by fire;

6 sapphires come from its rocks,
and its dust contains nuggets of gold.

7 No bird of prey knows that hidden path,
no falcon's eye has seen it.

8 Proud beasts do not set foot on it,
and no lion prowls there.

9 Man's hand assaults the flinty rock
and lays bare the roots of the mountains.

10 He tunnels through the rock;
his eyes see all its treasures.

11 He searches the sources of the rivers
and brings hidden things to light.

How detailed is that?! I was amazed the first time I read it in Job, and completely fascinated by it. I mean I know its not exactly a science manual for mining procedures but that's pretty detailed for the Bible.

Also look here for a short article about mining/metal working in the Bible: Mining in Job's Time.

God Bless,

~Josh
 
I have noticed that before, the book of Job is great. I work with metals, and know a lot about them it really is amazing how detailed the Bible is on things like that. It makes you wonder how so many people can still think it's just an old book.
 
MISFIT said:
I have noticed that before, the book of Job is great. I work with metals, and know a lot about them it really is amazing how detailed the Bible is on things like that. It makes you wonder how so many people can still think it's just an old book.

For real, you said it! I actually have not read the entire OT (1 Samuel - 2 Corinthians & some of the prophets I've only read sections of at a time) so from time to time I'll come across a story or passage I haven't read before and it never ceases to amaze me the content, poetic expression, declaration of God's power, or very relevant-to-today quality that all of it has. That's why I love reading the Bible.

God Bless,

~Josh
 
cybershark5886 said:
MISFIT said:
I have noticed that before, the book of Job is great. I work with metals, and know a lot about them it really is amazing how detailed the Bible is on things like that. It makes you wonder how so many people can still think it's just an old book.

For real, you said it! I actually have not read the entire OT (1 Samuel - 2 Corinthians & some of the prophets I've only read sections of at a time) so from time to time I'll come across a story or passage I haven't read before and it never ceases to amaze me the content, poetic expression, declaration of God's power, or very relevant-to-today quality that all of it has. That's why I love reading the Bible.

God Bless,

~Josh

Amen to that brother! Personaly I love the OT I know many find it hard to read, but I can't get enough.
 
wavy said:
MISFIT said:
Biblical skeptics suffered a devastating blow...

???

How so?


Thanks,
Eric

I noticed the first time that I clicked on the video that Misfit simply copied the text in the description pane from the video on youtube, so the original author of the video wrote that. But, no, I wouldn't say "devastating" in this one particular find per se. Devastating is more like death by a thousand cuts (or shall I say "vindications"), which Biblical Archaeology as a whole works towards. But this particular find does help our overall understanding of Biblical times though.

P.S. I still haven't looked into this as I told Misfit I would do, because I've been so busy. I really want to sit down and read as much as I can about this this weekend, then I will give the promised assessment.

God Bless,

~Josh
 
Although I will give a more thorough investigation this weekend I found an article (here) that looks fairly objective and mentions a few of the benefits to the Biblical story and chronology:

"We can't believe everything ancient writings tell us," Levy said. "But this research represents a confluence between the archaeological and scientific data and the Bible.
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The 2006 dig has brought up new artifacts and with them a new suite of radiocarbon dates placing the bulk of industrial-scale production at Khirbat en-Nahas in the 10th century BCE – in line with biblical narrative on the legendary rule of David and Solomon. The new data pushes back the archaeological chronology some three centuries earlier than the current scholarly consensus.

The research also documents a spike in metallurgic activity at the site during the 9th century BCE, which may also support the history of the Edomites as related by the Bible.
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"Now," said Levy, director of the Levantine Archaeology Lab at UCSD and associate director of the new Center of Interdisciplinary Science for Art, Architecture and Archaeology (CISA3), "with data from the first large-scale stratified and systematic excavation of a site in the southern Levant to focus specifically on the role of metallurgy in Edom, we have evidence that complex societies were indeed active in 10th and 9th centuries BCE and that brings us back to the debate about the historicity of the Hebrew Bible narratives related to this period."

Thus far it seems like a legitimate and valuable find. I've already stated though that the more sensational title "Solomon's Mines" doesn't necessarily tie the legendary mines with this find, although I mentioned in my first post how they could nonetheless have been mines operated under Solomon's rule of the region, thus "Solomon's Mines".

"Our work also demonstrates methods that are objective and enable researchers to evaluate the data in a dispassionate way. This is especially important for 'historical archaeologies' around the world where sacred texts – whether the Mahabharata in India or the Sagas of Iceland – and the archaeological record are arenas for fierce ideological and cultural debates."
No kidding.

I also saw this:

Khirbat en-Nahas, comprising some 100 ancient buildings including a fortress, is situated in the midst of a large area covered by black slag – more than 24 acres that you can clearly see on Google Earth's satellite imagery.

Whoa! I'm definitely going to look. 8-)

P.S. USA Today also reported on this.

~Josh
 
I'm sorry, I fell apart in my investigation of this. Exams took over my spare time, and now that I finally get back to it I can't find any further articles on Khirbet en-Nahas relating to this news past October 31, which means no further developments have been reported in the last month (most of these reports take years to accumulate substantial reports - this was just a preliminary). Thus I cannot really give the indepth study as promised (sorry), although I can point you to links and keep this topic up to date as new information comes in. I thought though that it would have generated more inquiry by now that I could draw off of, but apparently not.

After looking on several sites though I discovered that Khirbet en-Nahas has been in Biblical Archaeology's scopes for a long time, and infact alot of the supporting and dissenting comments added to some of the articles that reported on the recent news quoted discussions about Khirbet en-Nahas that occured previously, some last year. The only dissenting voice to the interpretation of the date of the site is Israel Finkelstien, who is himself a controversial figure. Time will tell but I have no doubt it is much older than Finkelstien places it, and it probably is evidence of an early society in Edom, with economically valuable copper mines. As for it being the origin of the legend of king Solomon's mines: that's any one's guess. Does anyone even know from what source the legend about Solomon's Mines arose? Was it from the Kebra Negast which tells the legend about the Ark of the Covenant?

At any rate I did find an interesting comment from a reader of BAR (Biblical Archaeology Review) magazine on Khirbet en-Nahas last year:

Edomitesâ€â€How Early?
I’ve been a reader of BAR for about a year now and have generally enjoyed many of the articles, whether I agree with their interpretations or not. I certainly applaud the fact that a range of voices are given room to discuss the field. As an archaeologist working principally on northern-European early-medieval material, it’s always interesting to see how others approach the issues regarding the integration of archaeology and text.
However, Khirbet en-Nahas is a site of great interest that is proving to be somewhat more controversial than the publications in BAR suggest (Levy and Najjar, “Edom and Copper,†July/August 2006, and Hershel Shanks, “Another View,†January/February 2007). Khirbet en-Nahas has much to tell us about Iron Age copper production, exchange and state formation. Levy and Najjar’s article paints a picture of an early site away from the perceived Edomite heartland (in the highlands). They give an earlier date for major exploitation of copper ore than would be expected for that area. From this, they argue that it provides evidence for an Edomite state about a century earlier than the archaeology of the highlands suggests and that it is more in keeping with Biblical sources.
In “Another View,†the BAR editor critiques Israel Finkelstein’s response in the journal Tel Aviv to Levy and Najjar in which Finkelstein tries to place the Edomite fortress more within his low chronology.
It appears that Levy and Najjar have a strong case, especially given the radiocarbon dating, to interpret the site within an early Iron Age culture. However, it is these radiocarbon dates that have themselves proven to be controversial, and this has yet to be discussed in BAR.
Levy and Najjar’s BAR article is based on their scientific paper.c Presenting their radiocarbon dates based on the calibrated dates (where the calculated dates are fitted against a curve that provides a more accurate date), they use these calibrated dates plus a range of other information (stratigraphic, pottery, textual, etc.) in a package called BCal to further modify the dating sequence, using Bayesian statistics. The dates thus produced are the ones used by Levy and Najjar in their BAR article and are, on average, around a century earlier than the normal calibrated radiocarbon dates. This is where the controversy begins.
In a response to Levy and Najjar’s scientific paper, another group of scholars expressed their concerns about these dates.d The debate can be followed on both the project Web site and online,e and includes responses from Levy and Najjar to the critiques.
In a review article,f Charlotte Whiting criticizes Levy et al.’s paper on Khirbet en-Nahas for its lack of clarity over contextual information for where the radiocarbon samples came from, and so it is unclear quite how secure these contexts were (i.e., whether they could have been contaminated by material of a different date).
None of this, of course, means that the early dates or interpretations for Khirbet en-Nahas are necessarily wrong, but there needs to be a great deal more persuasion and transparency of Levy et al.’s methodology before they are accepted by many scholars.
It seems likely to be a discussion that has some way to run yet, and all the better for it!
All archaeology requires interpretation, including results provided by “hard†science. At the very least, BAR readers deserve to know that the dating sequence for Khirbet en-Nahas is controversial.
Dr. John Naylor
Ashmolean Museum
Oxford, England


http://www.basarchive.org/sample/bswbBr ... rticleID=3

It seems like this most recent report is just the thing Mr. Naylor is looking for. :)

~Josh
 
Update: I'm finally making good on my promise to investigate this, and I now have a wealth of information and sources to throw at you.

Below is an excellent video survey of what is going on in the excavation at Khirbet en Nahas with Thomas Levy from the University of California in San Diego. It will give you a better idea of what is taking place at the site, although these excavations have been going on for years. More recently though the claim for the early date of the mines has become more solidified with releases of publications from Thomas Levy on the site with radio carbon dating information to support his claims.

[youtube:2ev05zx2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtsTV0LwwMo[/youtube:2ev05zx2]

(Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtsTV0LwwMo&eurl)

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Paper publications by Thomas Levy and others working on the site can also be found here: Reassessing the chronology of Biblical Edom: new excavations and 14C dates from Khirbat en-Nahas (Jordan)

As well as a response to a critical evaluation of that paper: How many fortresses do you need to write a preliminary report?

Those documents were obtained from this page in the context of a debate and critical evaluation of the current discovereies at Khirbet en Nahas and the responses by Levy et al. The page and discussions also contain valuable radio carbon dating information. One thing is for sure, though they quabble over +/- 100 years (or less), that this is a very early mine, 10th century B.C.E. at least. Levy's defense in his "How many fortresses do you need to write a preliminary report?" is terrific in identifying and bringing to light the chonological bias concerning Edom that many scholars held after Nelson Gluek's claims about the dating of sites in Edom.

Also the published report that Levy refers to, which was still on the way to the press at the time of that publication, is now out and is avaiable on Amazon here: Bible and Radiocarbon Dating: Archaeology, Text and Science.

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In addition to all that Thomas Levy's active site on the expedition is here: Archaeology in the Levant, and it has more links and resources on the dig than you could read in probably a few hours. The CALIT2 advanced imaging that they are using is surpassing the past sophistication of technology as applied to traditional dig sites so he is making use of UCSDs most cutting edge technology resources to aid his dig. Interesting stuff, check it out.

I hope someone finds this information suitable and useful.

~Josh
 
I actually have to thank misfit for being the first person to point out this important discovery to me and for bringing it to my attention. After having since thoroughly studied this topic, knowing what Thomas Levy is doing in Jordan with his excavations has turned out to be incredibly important for Biblical archaeology. You can see more information about that in some of my other threads in this section where I mention his excavations a Khirbet en Nahas. I just wanted to acknowledge misfit for first pointing this out to me.

THANKS!

God Bless,

~Josh
 
Here is an interesting snippet of an article on energy conservation in relation to this site. Thomas Levy was indeed original only interested in this site for its metallurgy. It then came as a great surprise that the site was as old as it was, and it is the latter which got the most publicity.

Steve Leibson said:
There are Direct Connections Between Low-Power Design, King Solomon’s Mines, and Kentucky Coal

...
...
The television show immediately preceding the Kentucky Coal program was a Nova/National Geographic special about a UCSD professor’s likely discovery of King Solomon’s mines. I saw pretty convincing evidence that he has found the mines, located in a place called Khirbat en-Nahas, which is now part of Southwest Jordan. The professor’s name is Thomas Levy and he’s an anthropologist. Levy wasn’t looking for King Solomon’s mines; he was investigating the role of ancient technology on the evolution of society and was attracted to Khirbat en-Nahas because it is a giant slag heap. In other words, Levy was attracted to this location because of clear evidence that it was the site of ancient, large-scale metallurgy operations. The name “Khirbat en-Nahas” itself means “ruins of copper” in Arabic.

What Levy found was an immense copper refining operation and he has dated it to the time of King Solomon using carbon dating techniques on organic matter found in the strata of the slag heaps.

How does this connect to coal mining? The slag heaps contain high concentrations of copper (that’s how we know it was the location of a copper refinery) as well as elevated concentrations of lead, arsenic, and other heavy-metal pollutants. These are the natural results of mining and refining operations.
Burning coal delivers similar sorts of pollutants to the air in addition to the carbon dioxide including lead, mercury, nickel, tin, cadmium, antimony, and arsenic.

The next time you set out to design using low-power techniques so that you can reduce heat generation, lower power consumption, and extend battery life, please take a second or two to consider that you are also working to make a future Professor Levy’s job that much harder by reducing the need to burn coal, or oil, or uranium. And that’s a very good thing.

Source: Steve Leibson » There are Direct Connections Between Low-Power Design, King Solomon’s Mines, and Kentucky Coal
 
Here is an awesome NASA satellite photograph of the area. Hi-res versions of it are available on the page along with some information about the Jordanian site: Khirbat en-Nahas : Image of the Day.


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Edit: If you click the image on that page, the hi-res version of the photo actually shows you much more of the surrounding area. It took me a few seconds to figure out where Khirbet en-Nahas was. If you click the image in the rectangular (and slanted) satellite photograph Khirbet en-Nahas is in the top left of the image, showing up as a dark brown blemish amidst the lighter surrounding terrain.
 
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