Bible Study Cains wife

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

Who knows. Adam and Eve lived hundreds of years and had offspring who also had, who also had, who also had and would have all kept breeding like rabbits. There would have been thousands of people in just a few hundred years. That could clarify the story there were people when Cain went out and married, but its only a theory. It doesn't say how old they were at the time. They could have been 600 when it happened and in 600 years there would have been thousands of people and he could have married a distant relative, like his sisters, daughters, brothers, daughters, brothers, sister.

 

[Not_Now.Soon]

Genisis doesn't seem to point in that direction. The long lineage of Cain before mentioning Adam and Eve having a third son (and no mention of Able having children) makes me believe that for at least the time when Cain had a wife there were only a few possibilities of who was the mother and father of Cain's wife.

 

[GodsGrace]

Who knows. Adam and Eve lived hundreds of years and had offspring who also had, who also had, who also had and would have all kept breeding like rabbits. There would have been thousands of people in just a few hundred years. That could clarify the story there were people when Cain went out and married, but its only a theory. It doesn't say how old they were at the time. They could have been 600 when it happened and in 600 years there would have been thousands of people and he could have married a distant relative, like his sisters, daughters, brothers, daughters, brothers, sister.

Hi Kiwidan

There are only two possibilities for who Cain's wife could have been.

1. There could have been people living outside the Garden. They could have been like cavemen and God chose Adam and Eve to start a new "race". When they were banished from the garden, A and E went to live with these people.

2. Incest. Cain married a sister of his. I do believe it would have had to be a sister.

But it wasn't considered incest back then. The race was pure and nothing would have come of it in terms of DNA damage, or babies being born malformed. This all came about later as sin began to set in.

Solution 1 does not seem to be biblical and has been dismissed by the mainline denominations I know about.
Solution 2 does seem to be biblical and the correct solution.

I don't find a problem with it and don't see why Cain would have had to wait hundreds of years to get married.
He was one of the first born, so it would have had to be a sister. I think.

 

[Not_Now.Soon]

Hi Kiwidan

There are only two possibilities for who Cain's wife could have been.

1. There could have been people living outside the Garden. They could have been like cavemen and God chose Adam and Eve to start a new "race". When they were banished from the garden, A and E went to live with these people.

2. Incest. Cain married a sister of his. I do believe it would have had to be a sister.

But it wasn't considered incest back then. The race was pure and nothing would have come of it in terms of DNA damage, or babies being born malformed. This all came about later as sin began to set in.

Solution 1 does not seem to be biblical and has been dismissed by the mainline denominations I know about.
Solution 2 does seem to be biblical and the correct solution.

I don't find a problem with it and don't see why Cain would have had to wait hundreds of years to get married.
He was one of the first born, so it would have had to be a sister. I think.

There's a few more options then just sister. Though that seems the most likely in my opinion. If Adam and Eve sinned more once by then just eating the apple, it's possible to say Cain's wife was a different combination of incest then just brother and sister married. The only restrictions are that it seems that there was only three men before Able's death, and that God was still walking among mankind. (Able's offering was accepted, Cain's wasn't and he was warned about his anger and sin.)

With only three men there, the combinations for the next generation are not just husband and wife. With God still among them, and His reactions to Cain and Able's oferings, as well as Able's death, I doubt there is any other likely option then Adam and Eve staying true to eachother and Cain marrying a sister.

 

[GodsGrace]

There's a few more options then just sister. Though that seems the most likely in my opinion. If Adam and Eve sinned more once by then just eating the apple, it's possible to say Cain's wife was a different combination of incest then just brother and sister married. The only restrictions are that it seems that there was only three men before Able's death, and that God was still walking among mankind. (Able's offering was accepted, Cain's wasn't and he was warned about his anger and sin.)

With only three men there, the combinations for the next generation are not just husband and wife. With God still among them, and His reactions to Cain and Able's oferings, as well as Able's death, I doubt there is any other likely option then Adam and Eve staying true to eachother and Cain marrying a sister.

I agree.

Why do you say that God was still walking among mankind?

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

Cain thought Able was dead, but his innocent blood was alive.

 

[GodsGrace]

Cain thought Able was dead, but his innocent blood was alive.

What do you mean?

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

What do you mean?

The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground.

So he was still alive right?. In spirit.

 

[Not_Now.Soon]

The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground.

So he was still alive right?. In spirit.

How does that relate to Cain's wife?

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

How does that relate to Cain's wife?

It doesn't, but we was talking about Cain, I went off topic. Ok back to topic Cains wife.

 

[Not_Now.Soon]

I agree.

Why do you say that God was still walking among mankind?

He accepted Able's sacrifice and rejected Cain's. Talked directly to Cain, and cursed Cain after he murdered Able in the same manner He cursed Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden before removing them from the garden. This suggests that God was still among them like before. But there is one more thing too. Genisis 6:1-3.

6 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend withhumans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

 

[Not_Now.Soon]

It doesn't, but we was talking about Cain, I went off topic. Ok back to topic Cains wife.

That's ok I just wasn't sure if it related to Cain's wife. I was confused.

 

[GodsGrace]

The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground.

So he was still alive right?. In spirit.

I don't believe this is what it means.
Genesis 4:10
"Your brothers blood cries out to me from the ground"

It's a metaphor. Blood is precious to God. The life is in the blood.
Leviticus 17:11
Blood has to be shed to forgive sin.
Jesus bled for the forgiveness of sin.
Romans 5:9

See also Hebrews 11:4
By faith he still speaks in the sense that to this day we still believe that Cain's offer was not accepted because it was not given with faith and love.

Genesis 4:11-12
The deed of shedding the blood of Abel was so great that now God cursed Cain.
The ground would no longer yield its crop (easily). Blood had soaked the ground, and Cain's curse was great.
He would be a wanderer (perhaps a lost person?) forever.

 

[GodsGrace]

The Lord said, “What have you done? Listen! Your brother’s blood cries out to me from the ground.

So he was still alive right?. In spirit.

P.S.

I forgot about your comment of Cain being alive in the spirit.

Yes. Life did go on after death.
Those who are lost go immediately where they are meant to go. (Cain, as I believe he was lost)
Those who were saved by faith in the O.T. had to wait in "prison" or Abraham's Bossom as in Luke 16:19-31

 

[King Dan of Great the 1st]

P.S.

I forgot about your comment of Cain being alive in the spirit.

Yes. Life did go on after death.
Those who are lost go immediately where they are meant to go. (Cain, as I believe he was lost)
Those who were saved by faith in the O.T. had to wait in "prison" or Abraham's Bossom as in Luke 16:19-31

I might have added 'in Spirit' a while after so you might not have seen it, I add as not to confuse I think he was literally walking around.

 

[GodsGrace]

He accepted Able's sacrifice and rejected Cain's. Talked directly to Cain, and cursed Cain after he murdered Able in the same manner He cursed Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden before removing them from the garden. This suggests that God was still among them like before. But there is one more thing too. Genisis 6:1-3.

Yes. Correct. God still spoke to men directly.
He also spoke to Moses directly, and others.
But, as you said, He would not contend with men directly, except in special cases.

 

[GodsGrace]

I might have added 'in Spirit' a while after so you might not have seen it, I add as not to confuse I think he was literally walking around.

Understood.
Of course!