Discussion in 'Questions & Suggestions for CFnet Staff' started by Strangelove, Nov 18, 2010.
After some discussion and meditating over this, the idea is being tabled. There is the Christian Talk and Advice forum and Bible Study Forum which are reserved for Christians. That alone presents a problem. Whose definition of a Christian do we use? If I use the Statement of Faith as my guideline, every Lord-loving non Trinitarian will be lining up to lynch us.
There is the One on One Debate forum which can be utilized. There is the Private Bible Study section for anyone wanting to put together their own private Bible Study with the members of your choosing.
There is the Q & A section, where we encourage non believers to ask away. They are welcome to post in Science also (as well as a few other sections).
There is also the Apologetics forum (aka, the snake pit) . That is where all you debating and argumentative Christians seem to gravitate anyway.
A forum set aside solely for the expressed purposes of knowingly debating and arguing with a fellow brother or sister seems counterproductive to good fellowship. We tolerate it in the Apologetics and Theology forum but I'm not going to outright condone it and give it it's own forum.
Sorry if it disappoints anyone. But see this from the outside. "All you Christians who like to debate and argue in a un-orderly fashion, come on in!"
Naw, I'll pass on this idea for now.
I'm not Jeff, I am Vic.
Paul had a serious problems with the Corinthians. They seemed to have adopted some of the practices of the heathen and their neighbor pagans and incorporated them into what was then, early Christianity. (sounds a bit familiar, you say? )
(the below questions are rhetorical)
Are you afraid this will happen to you by "fellow shipping" with them on the site, or are you not willing or able to defend your beliefs in tight situations when your beliefs are challenged?
Better yet, to you all have what it takes to wipe the dust off your feet and walk away from foolish arguments when you feel your words are fallen upon blind eyes and deaf ears?
I know what you mean Doc, but I'm not asking anyone to be 'yoked' to an unbeliever. I am asking that we minister to them by way of 6:1-10.
No i'm just tired of defending my position and beliefs with non-believers. If they have read the Gospels and still deny Jesus is the Saviour then they are liars. And thats a Biblical truth.
TBH I just dont wanna debate with them full stop.
I want to come here and debate with Christians and when I feel like it go over to the apologetics forum and evangelize to the unsaved.
Maybe in the future I will see the wisdom of your direction on this issue but at the moment all I see is a Christian forum (a very good one with excellent staff) with no Christian only debate section.
It just doesn't make a lot of sense to me right now and you can see that many others feel the same way.
The spirit of antichrist is getting, and will get, stronger and stronger and we are gonna get more and more non-Christians joining up.
I know you guys think I'm a paranoid whack job but there will be agents coming on here and trying to lure Christians away from the core fundamentals of Christianity. Theres some here already. And we have no place to take refuge where Christians only can express their point of view and have a back and forth.
I just wanna make threads and debate Christians only. I don't wanna discuss issues with liars.
There are many Christians who visit forums just to debate the lies they believe. Personally, what is the difference between a lie the unsaved believes and the lie a believer holds onto?
Closely guarded and hotly debated lies are basically the same pain to debate, no matter who maintains them.
Because the believer is decieved into believing a lie and furthermore he can be corrected by scripture.
The non-believer is a liar himself and can't be corrected with scripture.
The difference is the moral character.
That is why we defend the truth with the shield, not the sword... The sword was never designed to defend which is why it's not as effective in certain situations...
Jesus talks about kicking the dust off your feet, and he also spoke about hurling your pearls to swine, turning the other cheek and packing a load the extra mile. At what point does it become less about what you want, and more about what God wants us to be?
You've misunderstood what I said.
I didn't mean our faith should be on display like a badge, I meant everything we say should be out in the open for others to witness. Otherwise it may look like we've got something to hide - Jesus said why would we want to hide our light under a bushel? ...
And as for age why should that be on display? The reasons you gave sounds like grounds for prejudice. Why force people to do what they don't want to do? There's already the option to display it if you want to, (I noted yours is not), so why not keep it that way?
Do we want to wrap this up now? 72 posts later and I think both sides have made their point.
Go here for my view on those things:
Okay, since this thread played out, views were given and heard, and you've moved on to another topic that was created, time to close this one up.
Sorry not everyone is happy.
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