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The term "Christian" sadly seems to be applied to anybody who says they are one,
rather they are a true follower of The Christ
or a pompous wolf who feeds on the praise/worship of men. The term Preacheritis comes to mind.
 
markathome said:
The term "Christian" sadly seems to be applied to anybody who says they are one,
rather they are a true follower of The Christ
or a pompous wolf who feeds on the praise/worship of men. The term Preacheritis comes to mind.
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I know of pastors who were godly.

So we are more perfect then Adam before he fell? Yet that Adam forsook God and sinned.He saw God,talked to Him face to face.

So you don't believe in freewill.
 
abide said:
Southern Baptists' CSB Puts Gender-Inclusive Language in the Bible .
Luke 6. 26
Woe to you when everyone speaks well of you, for that is how their ancestors treated the false prophets.
Isaiah 30:9-13
That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the Lord:

Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:

Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.

Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon:

Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant.

Revelation 22.19

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Preachers want the praise of men. Very sad indeed..BUT all this was prophesied
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A very sad state of affairs. THe Baptists have been known for a long time as being very good at teaching the scriptures.
Time's running out!

iakov the fool
 
Jim Parker said:
A very sad state of affairs. THe Baptists have been known for a long time as being very good at teaching the scriptures.
Time's running out!

iakov the fool
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We still are, but God as turned has turned the Lost, most of the people in the pews and most of the people behind the man made pulpits over to a Reprobate Mind. The last verses of Romans 1.
 
markathome said:
So you thought they was godlike?


So Adam sinned and is in Hell???


If thats what you believe then you have the freewill to do that!
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Ok,so then amy Christian can't be judged unworthy as he forsook the cross he bore and his repentence.

GODly because I knew them. You can't argue that once saved always saved with me.I knew what I did and repented of all the while knowing that if I stayed as a bisexual I wouldn't see heaven.

You claimed that a church or person cam fall away.how does fall away if they never had the true repentence?

Kindly see that I'm not teaching works based salvation. I'm not asumming thar you teach sin all you want.
I just think it's not wise to ignore clear warnings of unrepentant hearts after knowing the Salvation.
 
Maybe a better approach would be,
Lord if I should fall away, aka backslide to a place of not being saved, I turn my body over to satan for the destruction of the flesh,
In other word's, Lord please take my Life, I give you my Life to take, before I backslide to wherever that Red Line would be that leads to Hell.

God Bless
 
jasonc said:
Ok,so then amy Christian can't be judged unworthy as he forsook the cross he bore and his repentence.

GODly because I knew them. You can't argue that once saved always saved with me.I knew what I did and repented of all the while knowing that if I stayed as a bisexual I wouldn't see heaven.

You claimed that a church or person cam fall away.how does fall away if they never had the true repentence?

Kindly see that I'm not teaching works based salvation. I'm not asumming thar you teach sin all you want.
I just think it's not wise to ignore clear warnings of unrepentant hearts after knowing the Salvation.
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AMEN!
 
markathome said:
Maybe a better approach would be,
Lord if I should fall away, aka backslide to a place of not being saved, I turn my body over to satan for the destruction of the flesh,
In other word's, Lord please take my Life, I give you my Life to take, before I backslide to wherever that Red Line would be that leads to Hell.

God Bless
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Do that really do that and place youself in the Works Salvation environment and go to Hell for no other reason than you never opened the door to accept Him into your heart because you were busy living under the Laws you decided you had to work to earn your salvation and were to busy struggling with it.
 
th1b.taylor said:
So have I and it is just like the divorce in a marriage, neither party wins.
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Splintering while sad but if I was a member of a church that went apostate,i would leave,some form a new church.I have friends at such a place.one of the old churches here went south and we have the st.paulists,the Christ church split off.both are Anglican. Of course these have a mother church who planred churches before going apostate,these are still Godly .I have plans to photo one of those as its building looks very old.
 
th1b.taylor said:
Your scripture references have nothing to do with the discussion.
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Compromise: accept standards that are lower than is desirable.
So you accept a standard lower then Mark 8:35–37 or 1 Corinthians 5:5,
you have your (FreeWill & OSAS) Philosophies to do so!

God Bless
 
markathome said:
Compromise: accept standards that are lower than is desirable.
So you accept a standard lower then Mark 8:35–37 or 1 Corinthians 5:5,
you have your (FreeWill & OSAS) Philosophies to do so!

God Bless
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Personally, I live by what God has taught from prayerful study of the Scripture, nothing any man says is important but it appears you have gone Legalistic, making my only concern, your Heavenly status.

I am Saved and I could not give it away and because I am, there is not one thing I will not do for my LORD. My God is more powerful than anything He has created and there is nothing He did not create that exists including the Time/Space Continuum we live in and measure our lives by.

God called me and all I have done is to answer His call and to bow my will to Him. Now, as for OSAS, I will not debate that issue but if you are saved also, no matter when the Rapture occurs, I will wave Howdy as we ascend to meet Him.
 
jasonc said:
So you don't believe in freewill.
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How can I considering you can't believe unless God allows you to believe.
John 6:65. Then Jesus said, "This is why I told you that no one can come to Me unless the Father has granted it to him."
 
Cygnus said:
How can I considering you can't believe unless God allows you to believe.
John 6:65. Then Jesus said, "This is why I told you that no one can come to Me unless the Father has granted it to him."
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You can believe if you reconcile Romans 12:2, 2Pet 3:9 and 1Tim 2{3-4 with the verses you have posted here. All of scripture is of a single context, Salvation is it's message.
 
th1b.taylor said:
Hooo-boy! Are you ever right! I know the President is recent convert but with his history of dealing, will he make that all important seven year Peace Treaty?
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Seven year peace treaty? Why I thought the modern prophecy teachers say it is the anti-Christ that makes the seven year peace treaty. Are you saying that President Trump is the anti-Christ? You say he is a recent convert? What is that supposed to mean? He is a wolf, but is new to his sheep's clothing?

I've seen you try to use the notion that Trump is a new baby Christian to justify your support for him. But in all honesty, would you want the man Donald Trump to lead your Church?
 
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