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[_ Old Earth _] Continental split? Peleg's english name?

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ÃÂoppleganger said:
LOL, is this a joke Pops, you can't really tell me those are valid answers, can You?
Well, Dops, what can I say?


[quote:37d5a]Cain was not Adam's son,

I should believe you over the bible, because....?

he was Eve's though. They weren't Seth's son's either! Aren't you as a christian suppose to know about it? The bible tells you to know? David knew. The church's of Philadelphia and Smyrna knew, why not you?
An IQ over 60, perhaps?


[quote:37d5a]Well, tell me who was Christ's Known HHHHUUUMMMAAANNN Father?
[/quote:37d5a] Asssssssssssssssssssk any christian grade 1er.

Wrong you get an F-.
For suggesting sex in the spirit world? Hey, what better letter?

Tell me why in the last 50 years, has the appearance of crop circles, alien abductions, and x-file like reports been so dramatic? Been to Phoenix or Mexico City lately?
Why ask questions that sound dumb, as if you want a certain answer? Just spit it out, and say what's on your mind. Why act like a hamster in a cage running a wheel?


No I won't.
OK, keep it under you vest then, suits me fine. Have a good life. Find a good mirror and debate yourself, perhaps?


The discussion of other-than Adam's lineage in Humanity.
Thats all it is, talk.

Tell me why have archelogists dug remains of elongated and oval skulls up, and either don't include them in there theories or deny them as evidence?

They are trying to mess up your mind?


Look at the Oran turan's comment!! Cha-Ching, other artifacts also, I won't go it to,look it up yourself!
Why? I'm not the one who thinks you have a point!

Nope, Egyptian art is rather good, F-.
Yes, they couldn't even write letters, and had to use little pictures. Guess it was so soon after the tower of babel, written language wasn't invented yet.

Wrong you tell me, I don't much care to?
You asked about Ike, on a certain day, so make a point, or maybe you'd rather go color and draw big heads?


I doubt that, remember we just got through fighting the biggest war the planet ever knew.
[/quote:37d5a]
OK, so what don't you doubt? Why would I care what Ike did that day?
 
dad said:
Nope, Egyptian art is rather good, F-.
Yes, they couldn't even write letters, and had to use little pictures. Guess it was so soon after the tower of babel, written language wasn't invented yet.

Not sure if you're joking or not, but Egyptian heiroglyphics aren't far removed from kanji. The idea of a picture representing a word rather than a letter isn't exactly barbaric, or anything.
 
ArtGuy said:
dad said:
Nope, Egyptian art is rather good, F-.
Yes, they couldn't even write letters, and had to use little pictures. Guess it was so soon after the tower of babel, written language wasn't invented yet.

Not sure if you're joking or not, but Egyptian heiroglyphics aren't far removed from kanji. The idea of a picture representing a word rather than a letter isn't exactly barbaric, or anything.
No, it is logical, that after the tongues were confused, men would draw little picture words! Who said it was barbaric?
 
ÃÂoppleganger said:
So, this aint really a serious discussion, then. I'm assuming. Because, it sounds like it from your tone. The serpent seed aint taught, so no I wont ask a 1st grader.

If you don't ask, you won't learn.

But, maybe you can ask the Easter bunny, it would be right along them lines. How do you, think tarditions like that get in the Church, let alone in myth. why does God put an entirely different lineage for Cain, in Genesis?

Because Cain was a murderer, who was separated from most men, I would think.

Why does he say That his father was a murder and a liar from the begining in scripture? I'll start my own topic elsewhere! People who can understand need to hear this? Oh your not welcome there, so please dont come unless you intend to serious debate it!
The father Jesus spoke of there was, of course the devil, no mystery there. Serious debate does not consist of flogging your pet misconception by asking strange questions about various conspiracy theories and not responding when I tried to answer them.
 
ÃÂoppleganger said:
St_u dad, i know way more than u, besides hieroglyphs came way b4 the tower of babel, nimrod! Duh
The dating is wrong. Very wrong, just look at exactly what it is based on, rather than the old age claims that are tossed around.
 
ÃÂoppleganger said:
This is absolutely my last post on this topic.
God is good.


[quote:8b500]The dating is wrong?


Very wrong, whether the giggles of giglamesh or the unknown scrawler who wrote on the back of an Egyyptian scroll about kingdoms of Egypt (including some spirits who supposedly ruked as well!). Or the old radioactive dating routine, where a PO past with decay is assumed-religiously, I might add. In a merged past, there was no radioactive decay, you see. So yes, the dates are wrong wrong wrong!!!

You have no idea what you are talking about.

Oh, but I know precisely what I an talking about, it is you who are dur for a wake up call something fierce!

Man was drawing pictures long b4 he developed the alphabet.
How do you know God din't teach us both in Eden? You presume assume, believe, and preach, but you really don't know what it is you are talking about!


Besides if you knew anything about languages you'd know that egyptians spoke a language somewhat similar to coptic, that was used for common people.
So what? How does this address the simple issue that it makes sense they drew picture words after Babel? Who cares the tongues that were spoken?

And used hierogylphs on all royal monuments.

What did you expect they should use, spanish?

This is absolutely my last post on this topic HERE! DUH, ....
[/quote:8b500]
Too bad, you sound so intelligent.
 
So....catch me up......I haven't looked at the thread since I created it....it looks like the thread has long left the subject line....

Is is agreed that .......

1. Before Peleg there was 1 super continent enabeling:

a. The animals to easily make it to Noah's ark from different parts of the super continent.
b. That after the flood, the animal's separated and went to different parts of the super continent.

2. During Peleg the continents and land split causing:

a. Animals and man to become trapped in their habitation thus making them indigenous to certain areas.
b. The separation of the lands created an environment that allowed micro evolution in both animals and man.

I believe I read somewhere that a group of people who become isolated develope a 'racial individuality' within 8 generations.
 
Georges said:
So....catch me up......I haven't looked at the thread since I created it....it looks like the thread has long left the subject line....

Is is agreed that .......

1. Before Peleg there was 1 super continent enabeling:

a. The animals to easily make it to Noah's ark from different parts of the super continent.
b. That after the flood, the animal's separated and went to different parts of the super continent.

2. During Peleg the continents and land split causing:

a. Animals and man to become trapped in their habitation thus making them indigenous to certain areas.
b. The separation of the lands created an environment that allowed micro evolution in both animals and man.

I believe I read somewhere that a group of people who become isolated develope a 'racial individuality' within 8 generations.
In my opinion, yes. But I feel that it was a different world then, where hyper evolution was possible.
 
Just throwing this up to the top again......


Hey .....my Grandkids were watching the movie "Ice Age" and I happened to pass by at the beginning of the movie....Before the actual movie begins there is a little short film starring "Scrat (SP?)" a cross between a Squirrel and a Rat...

I swear it had me rolling on the floor...I had a good laugh...but in the sequence....scrat end's up with 1 acorn left and he is on a vast plain....all of a sudden there is an earthquake and the land around him splits to show him on a very, very small stand of land surrounded by water....what was funny was during the earthquake, the scene shift briefly from scrat to a picture of the Earth's continents splitting and moving....leaving poor scrat in the middle of an oceanic nowhere on his little island....

Reminded me of Peleg immediately and I had to reintroduce this thread...
 
Seems I had read somewhere that a few years back, they found a wooley mammoth that had been frozen (Siberia?) with the contents (veggies?) of a more warmer climate still undigested in it's stomach. This would promote a rapid continental split....would it not?
 
Georges said:
Seems I had read somewhere that a few years back, they found a wooley mammoth that had been frozen (Siberia?) with the contents (veggies?) of a more warmer climate still undigested in it's stomach. This would promote a rapid continental split....would it not?

If you're remembering it properly, then sure. But I'd bet dollars to donuts that you aren't. I could easily say that I seem to recall reading an article a few years back that said something about irrefutable proof that the Ark never existed. That wouldn't convince many people, would it?
 
Seems I had read somewhere that a few years back, they found a wooley mammoth that had been frozen (Siberia?) with the contents (veggies?) of a more warmer climate still undigested in it's stomach. This would promote a rapid continental split....would it not?
Not at all - it even falsifies such a rapid continential split. Such a tectonic activity would require insane amounths of energy, and that energy doesn't just disappear once the plates come to a halt. Instead it would have cooked anything on earth - there wouldn't have been any such cold place in first instance to which the mannoth could have been moved.
 
jwu said:
Seems I had read somewhere that a few years back, they found a wooley mammoth that had been frozen (Siberia?) with the contents (veggies?) of a more warmer climate still undigested in it's stomach. This would promote a rapid continental split....would it not?
Not at all - it even falsifies such a rapid continential split. Such a tectonic activity would require insane amounths of energy, and that energy doesn't just disappear once the plates come to a halt. Instead it would have cooked anything on earth - there wouldn't have been any such cold place in first instance to which the mannoth could have been moved.

Oh well....I'm dumb enough to accept a 7 day creation....I figured a rapid split would be a piece of cake after that....anyway...your's is as much speculation as mine...except Biblically, mine works.. :bday:
 
jwu said:
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Such a tectonic activity would require insane amounths of energy, and that energy doesn't just disappear once the plates come to a halt. Instead it would have cooked anything on earth - ....
This assumes present conditions. Like if I were to look at the new heavens the bible talks about, and claim that they could not be, because they have a city where God and we live. ' Oh, I don't see God now, they might say, so we won't live with Him then'. See, all we do there is assume present conditions into the unknown future.

If the past also was very different, we could not assume the present to be the key to the past either! For example, I think that there was also the spiritual as part of the fabric of matter, and the universe back then. This means matter was different. Now, if we see rock heats up now, and takes a certain amount of time to cool, then, it could have cooled maybe in days, not decades, type of thing. Also, if there was no gravity as we know it, since it was not just a physical universe, (gravity attracts physical objects not spiritual matter) what would this mean to sliding continents??!!!! They would not have gravity as such to overcome!

This negates the energy arguement. Unless you could demonstrate solid reasons that the universe had to be just physical then as well, like it now is. I don't think you can do that, because you do not know, you always just have assumed it to be so, as did science. I challenge that assumption, upon which all old ages rest.
 
Why don't you just say "Goddidit"? That's just as good as claiming that back then natural constants were different, of which there is no indication.
 
jwu said:
Why don't you just say "Goddidit"? That's just as good as claiming that back then natural constants were different, of which there is no indication.

Are you suggesting that God has never had His hand upon the world in any way?

The global, world wide flood that lasted over a year is proof of God's hand upon the earth.
 
Are you suggesting that God has never had His hand upon the world in any way?
No, i believe that miracles do take place.

The global, world wide flood that lasted over a year is proof of God's hand upon the earth.
First off, nothing is ever proven. Even if a flood had taken place, it could have been another God or completely natural.

However, there is strong evidence that this flood never happened in first instance.
 
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