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Converting to Islam or other religions
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Classik
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Mountainshield
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A Woman is suffecient reason, but there is never any justification to leave God.
However in my opinion both Islam, Christianity and true Buddhism leads to God. Doesn't matter in what tongue we call him, be it the Creator, Allah or Yahweh.
However in my opinion both Islam, Christianity and true Buddhism leads to God. Doesn't matter in what tongue we call him, be it the Creator, Allah or Yahweh.
Mountainshield
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I know, there are similar statements in the Quoran and in Buddhist teachings. I think though all this will be cleared with the second comming, until then we can only agree to disagree.
Mountainshield
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Why not? the alternatives are not that pretty.
Buddhism believes in nothingness.
Allah is the crescent moon god. I believe in the God that created the crescent moon.
Mountainshield
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I have never heard that Allah is the screscent moon god. Buddhists believe in a creator of the universe, at least what I call true buddhism does. They also believe in the coming of Rigden Jyepo who will come and establish a new global spanning empire. I believe God enlightened the lama's as well as the prophets of christianity. When Jesus/Rigden Jyepo returns all theological contradictions/diagreements between our religions will be solved and the heretics and unbelievers will be purged. My theological knowledge of Buddhism is limited and based on the work of Nicholas Roerich. Since Buddhists don't have a Bible or Quoran that is the ultimate lawbook its difficult to have a conclusive discussion on the matter.
If you look at all muslim countries, somewhere on their national flag is a crescent moon.
I particulaly know only of zen buddhism. My friend was involved for many years. The zen master did not want to discuss God at anytime.
Classik
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I understood what you meant...Tis just that you put it in an amusing way
Classik
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Interesting. And to addd to that, I believe in the God that made All things....and things that are not things.
Mountainshield
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That is interesting, when it comes to Islam most of my knowledge comes from reading Harun Yahya and the books I read at uni. From what I have been able to understand from Yahya Allah is God creator of all the universe and is not a scescent moon God as some people i.e state that Jesus is a Sun God or the the Architecht of the Universe is the dog star sirius. Thanks, I will need to check it out.
I understood what you meant...Tis just that you put it in an amusing way
Ah, thanks, I heard it from some radio or movie many years ago
Your right. Allah is not a crescent moon God but just Arabic for the word God. They hold the same basic beliefs as the Christianity and Judaism, (seeing as all those religions stemmed from the middle East), but they do not accept Jesus and neither does Judaism. This is the key difference and is what makes Christianity unique, Jesus is our connection to the one true God.
I believe that would be the 50 star gods, unless of course you are going by Obama, then it would the 57 star gods.
You are incorrect. By your logic Canadians worship the maple leaf God and Americans worship the 52 star Gods lol. Allah is just Arabic for the word "God"
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Aardverk
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Alright. Just a question. What could prompt a Christian to convert to Islam? Few people have done this. Is there any justification in such a decision? What do you think?unno
I can think of no logical reason.
I suspect that the people who do convert are 'tricked' into it by persuasive speakers/manipulators.
Derren Brown has demonstrated several times how to convert people from atheists to believers without ever saying a word about God. If HE can do it, you can be pretty sure that others are out there doing it too.
wayseer
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Why does reason have to 'logical'?
... like those who are 'tricked' into Christianity?
Darren Brown? Didn't he write the Da Vinvi Code?
There are many 'logical' reason why people move to Islam. Women, especially, feel better protected from marauding raids by tribal males or by peer pressure that 'girls like girls'. Others feel that Christianity has become soppy. Others feel the 'power' of Islam in that it wants to conquer the world. Others, and I think herein lie the majority, crave certainty. Others find the crass consumer mentality suffocating. Others just love to hate. Most, however, have actually read very little of the Qur'an.
Any one who might have started out calling themselves a Christian then converting to another religion like Islam, Hindu or whatever never had Christ in their heart to begin with because once you have that intimate relationship with Christ you would never leave him. People need to be careful for whom they follow after as in Mohammed and his false moon god allah.
From Ishmael, whose birthright was denied, to Esau and Jacob who were rivaling twins, the seed of hate was sewn. What evolved thereafter was a bitter, jealousy that has been passed down to every Arab generation since. By the 7th century, this ancient hatred made its way into the heart and mind of a common-criminal named Mohammed - an Arab and descendant of Ishmael, who founded a religion and used it to justify his countless, criminal acts of rape and murder.
Mohammad Ibn Abdallah was born in the year 570 AD to the Quraysh Tribe in the city of Mecca. His father died before he was born and his mother Amina died when he was 6 years old (Mohammed claimed descent from Ishmael's son Kedar). At the age of 25, Mohammed married a 40 year-old wealthy, widow named Khadijah who owned trading caravans. Traveling as a representative of Khadija's various business interests, Mohammed was exposed to many Jews and Christians and became enthralled by their theology, particularly their concept of a single deity. It was at this time he began to envision a single, united Arab state under a single 'god.'
Secular history records that in 610, by which time Mohammed had become the leader of his tribe, he was in a cave meditating and seeking to discover which of the jinni was indeed most powerful and worthy to become the tribal jinni of his family. A jinni is a powerful evil spirit.
Islam's Allah has provided yet another timeless Divine revelation which gives his prophet the right to rape and torture women of other religions.
Surat 4:24 (from the Quaran)
"And all married women are forbidden unto you EXCEPT those captives whom your right hand possesses. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that you seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery..."
In short, allah the all merciful is affirming that any non-Muslim woman is fair game to rape provided she is captured first - "..Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned..." - how divine!
From Ishmael, whose birthright was denied, to Esau and Jacob who were rivaling twins, the seed of hate was sewn. What evolved thereafter was a bitter, jealousy that has been passed down to every Arab generation since. By the 7th century, this ancient hatred made its way into the heart and mind of a common-criminal named Mohammed - an Arab and descendant of Ishmael, who founded a religion and used it to justify his countless, criminal acts of rape and murder.
Mohammad Ibn Abdallah was born in the year 570 AD to the Quraysh Tribe in the city of Mecca. His father died before he was born and his mother Amina died when he was 6 years old (Mohammed claimed descent from Ishmael's son Kedar). At the age of 25, Mohammed married a 40 year-old wealthy, widow named Khadijah who owned trading caravans. Traveling as a representative of Khadija's various business interests, Mohammed was exposed to many Jews and Christians and became enthralled by their theology, particularly their concept of a single deity. It was at this time he began to envision a single, united Arab state under a single 'god.'
Secular history records that in 610, by which time Mohammed had become the leader of his tribe, he was in a cave meditating and seeking to discover which of the jinni was indeed most powerful and worthy to become the tribal jinni of his family. A jinni is a powerful evil spirit.
Islam's Allah has provided yet another timeless Divine revelation which gives his prophet the right to rape and torture women of other religions.
Surat 4:24 (from the Quaran)
"And all married women are forbidden unto you EXCEPT those captives whom your right hand possesses. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that you seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery..."
In short, allah the all merciful is affirming that any non-Muslim woman is fair game to rape provided she is captured first - "..Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned..." - how divine!