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Do Animals Go To Heaven ?

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The answer is no. But you will be surprised at the people who think so. Even Christians today it came up on my site from a friend of mine, I have talked about this before on my old site. But today I did not go into great detail but it came up because of my signature on my site The lion laying down with the lamb, from Isaiah 11: 6-9. I am going to post what I said to him. He is thinking that he might see his dog one day. Like i said I did not go into great detail this time on the subject. But here is what I said.
Well that scripture Don, is talking about after the return of Jesus, and the peace that will return to the earth. Just like the days of Adam when meat was not eaten, not even the animals ate meat. Flesh was not eaten by animals or man until after Genesis 9:3. The lion laying down with the lamb is a time of peace and love on earth. A lamb could not lay down with a lion right now. But one day thewy will be able to do it again. Now as far, as animals going to heaven nothing in the Bible supports this, God gave them a soul because they have personalities, but God denied them a spirit. Read Ecclesiastes 3:21.
Now there are all kinds of beast in heaven. But these ones on earth will not go there.
Go to this link it has much more about this subject then when I was there a couple years ago. You can find your answer there. And make sure that you read a few of them. But mostly all Bible scholars say they do not, because the Bible does not support it.

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Now what do some of you think happens to animals at their death ? This is my signature that he saw over there, and scripture that i have over top of it.

This is coming one day.
Isaiah 11:6-7 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
 
Lewis W said:
So Lyric, where is your pet monkey ?
Huh?

Well, I happen to disagree with you on this one. Imagine that!! :biggrin

God created these wonderful creatures and they give us great pleasure. Sometimes they are wonderful parts of our families. Other times they are just wonderful creatures that we love to view. I think the Bible says clearly that there will be animals in the Kingdom. I for one do not think that God made them for nothing. If it was just for food, He could have just fed us manna forever.

I have no doubt that animals will be there.
 
Lyric I just knew that you were going to say something like that. Yes there are creatures in heaven. But the ones that are here on earth are not going. They are not made in the image of God. Lyric you really need to read this. All of it, and any others that think like you on this matter.

Do Our Pets and Animals go to Heaven?
-by Tony Warren


This is a question which is asked more frequently as people today seem to be treating their beasts more like humans, and humans more like beasts. Everyone can understand that when a beloved animal dies it is a natural reaction to feel some sorrow and anguish because of the loss. But we must not confuse emotion and human feelings, with biblical principles. On this earth, we know only in part, and so we often neglect to address the question in light of the Bible, and fail to comprehend that all living things in this world (besides man), are temporal. That includes organisms, insects, plants, reptiles, and animals. These things are a part of God's magnificent creation, but they do not have an immortal soul. It is only the spirits of men which are immortal spirits. Emotionalism notwithstanding, the spirits of men are the only spirits which partake in the resurrection to life after death.

Revelation 20:13-14

* "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
* And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death."

The souls of 'men' are raised up, not animals. They that have done good to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of damnation (John 5:29). There is nothing in scripture that has ever declared that the spirits of animals go to heaven. This idea is based upon emotionalism and wishful (if not wistful) thinking by today's liberal philosophers and theologians.

The Judeo-Christian Church belief has historically been that animals were created primarily for human use, and they lack the immortal and rational souls which would afford them eternity in Heaven. What has changed in modern times is that emotion has replaced 'teachings based on authority of scripture,' and human feelings replaced the system of law. The same emotionalism (rather than sound hermeneutics), which has ravaged other historical Church doctrines in recent years. Many professing Christians judge truth by what 'seems' right for God to do (in their own eyes), even forging such bonds between themselves and their beasts that they cannot even fathom a heaven which would not include their beloved animals. To hear them speak, it is almost as if they will look upon God as unrighteous if He won't save their pet animals. It's just part and parcel of the same arrogant 'me mentality' which is sweeping over most of our Churches today, and degrading the historical Church. The rebellious attitude that life is all about how I feel, or about what I want, or about how I see things.

Man's spiritual eyes should never be focused on his pets (indeed, upon himself) where he loves the creation more than the creator. His eyes should be squarely on the great Shepherd, and the commission we have been given to feed His Sheep. That should be our hope, and that is what is lacking in our Churches today. The thought of spending eternity along with our beloved pets may be a temporal comfort as we are in the flesh, but we are losing sight of where our real joy and comfort should come from. It doesn't come from me and my relationship to my pet in heaven, or even my loved ones in heaven, but my relationship with Christ.

Luke 20:34-35

* "And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
* But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:"

Heaven is not like the earth where there are human needs and interactions with the creation, in heaven, people neither marry or are given in marriage, because these are earthly, temporal things, which are not important in Heaven.

This view of the souls of animals coming into heaven just as people is without one piece of Biblical validation. The unpalatable truth is that animals are really insignificant in the big scheme of things, as eternity, or standing in the presence of God. For now we see through a glass, darkly (1st Cor. 13:12), but in that great day of the Lord, we will know even as we are known, and thus understand that animals ceasing to exist is the best thing for them. They have no suffering, no pain, no sorrow, no remembrance. If we should spend our time in this world in concern for those with the breath of life, it must be for man, who unless converted, will (unlike animals) be in suffering and pain. This is where our concerns and energies should be directed. To save man from torment, not implying God is wrong for causing beasts to cease to exist. Somewhere our priorities have become skewed, and we have forgotten our commission.

There are a myriad of people in this world who 'unrepentantly' show more concern for animals, than they do for the souls of people. But this isn't Christ-like, it's world-like. If we remember our pets in heaven, it will be with joy, because then we will know even as we are known, and will thus understand what this robe of flesh prevented us from understanding. Namely, God's ultimate purpose for all things on earth, and the difference between this world, and heaven.

It truly seems quite silly to some people for a child to be upset that his or her pet fish or hamster won't go to heaven, but there are many adults who think this exact same way. Pet mice, fish, pigs, birds, dogs, or any living creatures besides man do not go to heaven. There is not the slightest indication this is the case, despite some innovative scripture manipulating. God has never said, implied, or alluded to anything which would bring man to such a self-serving conclusion. One of the most basic of hermeneutic principles, is that we cannot argue a doctrine from silence. We can't say the scriptures don't say animals won't be in heaven, therefore they will. But from the preponderance of biblical evidence, we can declare that only that soul purged from sin in Christ, shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven. For only those creatures for whom Christ died, and who are free from any stain of sin, can enter heaven.

1st Peter 3:18

* "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:"

Christ brings man's spirit to God. It is a ludicrous way of formulating doctrine to declare that, because it doesn't say He doesn't, therefore Christ brings the souls of animals to God also. But that is the way this belief has often been perpetrated upon the naive. The reality is, people come to this belief 'apart' from God's Word, not because of it. God's focus is on the everlasting souls of people, the salvation of man, and their later habitation in the Kingdom. It is not for souls of beasts, insects, birds or reptiles. Christians need not worry about these pets or animals, for though they do not go to heaven, they also do not go to Hell. They cease to exist because unlike man, they were 'not' created in the image of God that they could conform to Christ to live and reign in his presence.

Genesis 1:26-27

* "And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
* So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."

What many do not understand is that mankind is a 'unique creation,' with exclusive properties which animals do not possess. Because man was made in the image or likeness of God, he is a living rational spirit able to think, reason, know and devise, because he is like God. As opposed to animals who are simply living spirits. That is to say, creatures with the breath of life. There is a difference, and that difference is what separates man from the beasts. When God created man, He placed in Him something animals do not have. An everlasting being or essence, which most people call the eternal soul. The belief that animals possess a rational souls or the everlasting being which man has, is untenable. Beasts are unquestionably not made in the likeness or image of God. Moreover, it would be unlawful and barbaric to slaughter these blessed creatures (assuming they went to heaven) or animals for food, clothing, or anything else if they were rational souls. The historic Church understood this, because God commanded animals to be slaughtered for food, sacrifice, and offerings. But carnal man today chooses to 'ignore' everything which doesn't support their own vain thinking.

Leviticus 11:2

* "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth."

God most certainly is not telling man he can eat the bodies of rational souls which will enter into the kingdom of heaven. God Forbid! There is not the slightest indication that these animals do anything but provide for man whom God has placed over them, and then they expire, or cease to exist. And who art thou O man to reply against God 'as if' this is unrighteous? The problem with man is that he likes to 'read into' scripture what seems right in his own eyes, according to his own will, and his own ideas, rather than simply read, and as the more noble Bereans, absorb what is read.

All flesh is from the dust, but it is only man who has been made in God's likeness a devising soul that he is able to think, know, decide, reason, and judge. It is this spirit which gives man his accountability before God. An accountability animals do not have. The Hebrew word for soul is [nephesh], meaning that which has the 'breath' in it, and is used in the Old Testament in reference to both animals and man, in the sense that they both have the breath of life. e.g.,

Genesis 2:7

* "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

However, when most Christians use the word soul today, they are not referring to simply any creature with the 'breath' of life, they are referring to the 'spirit' or essence of man which is eternal, and not to this soul which is merely the breath of life. The difference between man and beast is that man has both the soul which is the breath of life, and the spirit, which is man's essence which exists after this life. Animals do not have the human reasoning spirit. i.e., they do not possess the immortal spirit which exists beyond life. And there is not one jot or tittle from God which says they do.

As far as the body is concerned, both animal and man are made of dust, and when they die, in their bodies they are buried and return to the dust. But the essence (Spirit) of man goes up to God, while the animal goes downward absorbed into the dust he was buried in. Two distinct destinations for man and beast. As also is illustrated in:

Ecclesiastes 3:19-21

* "For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.
* All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
* Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?"

The non-eternal spirit of animals, and the immortal spirit of men, and they take two separate and distinct paths at death. Because man is made in the image of God, he goes upward, but the spirits of beasts are absorbed by the earth. i.e., they cease to exist. And in point of fact, it is because he has this rational soul that man can justly be cast into Hell, and animals are not. Animals simply return to the dust when their life on this earth is over. By contrast, God's Word makes it abundantly clear that the souls of men and women will live for eternity, either in the Kingdom of heaven, or in the Hell of the lake of Fire.

If we are going to let the Bible be our final rule of faith and authority on matters (rather than our own will), we realize that there are certain criteria which God has established for anyone entering the Kingdom of heaven. Can a Cow, Dog, Cat, Horse, Bird, or any animal for that matter, meet the criteria that God declares we must do to inherit the Kingdom, or is eternal life ordained for man alone?

Matthew 1:21

* "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins."

This does not imply they will call Him Jesus because He will save animals from sin, but People. Christ came that People could inherit the kingdom of Heaven, not animals. That is the whole basis of Christianity. That we merit Heaven 'by the work of Christ.' He hung on the cross for us. It is clear, without this merit, nothing on this earth can enter into the Kingdom of heaven. It is vain arrogance or pride, not humility, which implies God's love depends on Him Saving animals. This is also sin. God converts men that they may enter heaven, not animals. And that is something the prideful do not comprehend. It's not about our will, or what we desire, it's about God's Will. It always has been.

Matthew 18:3

* "And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."

Can an animal become as little children in Jesus Christ, and be converted? The answer is no, they are not humans, they are beasts of the field. Can a dog believe in God to inherit life, or were animals created as a help, meat, to be used in sacrifices, and for the temporal service of man, whom God has placed to rule (gen. 1:27-28) over them? The answer is obvious.

John 3:5-6

* "Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
* That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

Can an animal be born again of the Spirit? The only rational answer is no. Is an animal clean? God says no. In fact, In scripture God uses dogs and Pigs to illustrate that which is unclean. Can anything be cleansed without blood. Again, God says no. Therefore, for an animal to enter heaven, Christ would have had to die for them as well. And when we start thinking like that, we start having to add to scripture, and making up our own laws and rules to support our thoughts. We've then fallen from Grace and are making an image of God, rather than worshipping the God of the Bible.

As indeed some have done, as they have gone off the deep end completely, becoming fanatics who have arbitrarily decided that man should not kill any beast at all. Not even cows, rats, birds, snakes, or harmful insects. We should understand that this effort has nothing to do with Christianity, or love, or compassion (as it's portrayed), but everything to do with self, ego, modernity, and liberal philosophies. These aren't virtues of the righteous, they are man made religions serving a man made god. For all practical purposes, images or idols to serve rather than the God of the Bible.

Another defense of this doctrine is to claim that the four Beasts in heaven (Revelation 6), or the white Horses (Revelation 19) proves animals will be in heaven. However, this argument is quite dubious, as it is quite obvious, even to the novice reader, that these are 'symbolic images' in a vision John is having, and not literal animals anymore than God has a literal sword protruding from His mouth, or that He is a literal Lamb, or that there was a literal Dragon with 7 heads and 10 horns. As previously stated, the fact is, animals were subject to the curse which God placed upon creation because of Adam’s sin. And so not being cleansed by the blood of Christ, it seems clear animals do not go to heaven.

All this being the case, the real question for Christians should not be one of if animals go to heaven, but of if we are spending our time on this earth in concern for the souls of men. We should ask ourselves, are we feeding the spiritually poor, are we clothing the spiritually naked, and are we taking in the spiritually destitute?

So then, what exactly is our responsibility to animals as God's created inhabitants of the World? It is important to remember that just because animals do not go to heaven, does not mean that man is entitled to treat them shamefully, or with unnecessary cruelty or viciousness. The Bible is not silent concerning cruelty to animals.

Proverbs 12:10

* "A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel."

The point being, an unrighteous man regardeth not the life of his beast, but a righteous man does. For in handling God's creation wisely and in respect, we not only reveal our understanding of our new nature, but our Christianity or Christ-like virtue. In the way in which we use what God has given us to rule over, we are examples.

1st Corinthians 10:31

* "Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."

How we handle this world that has been placed under our care, and the many creatures which God has given us rule over, is a beacon of light showing our life in Christ. We should always do all (whatsoever it be), to the Glory of God! We do not treat animals cruelly or inhumanely, we have a healthy respect for the life of our beasts, and indeed all God's creation.

And may the Lord who is Gracious above all guide us into the truth of understanding these questions, in the light of His most Holy Word.

Amen!
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Lewis W said:
Lyric I just knew that you were going to say something like that. Yes there are creatures in heaven. But the ones that are here on earth are not going. They are not made in the image of God. Lyric you really need to read this. All of it, and any others that think like you on this matter.
*SNIP*
Yeah, ya know, it is just too lengthy and I won't buy it. Mere speculation.

I have no doubt about the animals being there. They are part of God's creation. Not an issue for me.

Also, I find it kind of silly to spiritualize such statements as the lamb and the lion lying together and the child playing with the asp.
 
Interesting question…

It makes me wonder: if animals go to heaven does that also mean that some go to hell? Oh and if so does that mean we need to witness to them?
 
If I may hop in this conversation, I do not think the real issue is whether or not animals go to heaven or hell, but if they will be restored again some day. I think the answer is "yes" as evidenced by Romans 8:19-22. Some may think that it only means the restored creation existing at the time, but I believe this will be from all time because of the initial intent of creation. Otherwise, there would not be a true restoration for all that were corrupted by sin if many animals were lost.

This restoration (the one I'm looking for) is not "dying and going to heaven" but rather to rule and reign with Christ on this earth (thy Kingdom come, thy will be done in earth as it is in heaven). Thus, it will be like Eden again, the way it origianlly was intended.

In case this went over the heads of some, that's why the lion will eat straw like the ox and coexist with animals it normally eats. Before the fall, everyone and everything was vegetarian. Even man did not really eat meat until the time of Noah (Genesis 9:3), but we are so used to seeing the world thru our fallen state that the significance of scripture stating that the lion will eat straw goes over our heads. Think back to Eden--- Christ like Adam and believers as God's offspring ruling and reigning jointly as a family the way it should have been.

Now there will be those who will get a tad picky and ask whether every little bug, every little gnat and fly will be resurrected. I think not. That's because these creatures are associated with destruction and decomposition--- the result of sin. Animals are to man as angels are to God: physical creation mirrors the spiritual world, and of course, there are some demonic beings analogous to the more undesirable animals.
 
Lewis....

Like you really know the answer to this.... :lol:

Animals that we love will be in Heaven....

Heaven is just that... Heaven!

Where all your dreams that are in accordance with Divine Love come true....

If I wish with my heart to see my pet rat Wally in Heaven who are you to say Christ will deny me....

I feel sorry for anyone that worships a God so lame that he cannot even bring life to fallen creatures of this sin torn world......

"The Bible teaches that "all flesh shall see the salvation of God" (Lk.3:6) and that "all the living things in creation - everything that lives in the air, and on the ground, and under the ground, and in the sea" will praise Yahweh and the Lamb" (Rev.5:13). God's care and love extends to even the humble sparrow (Lk.12:6) and He has promised that He will restore all living things (Ac.3:21; Eph.1:10). Death as a whole will be annulled or abolished (1 Cor.15:25-26; 2 Tim.1:10) and the whole creation will be renewed (Rev.21:4-5). The resurrection will affect all celestial (heavenly) creatures and all terrestrial (earthly) ones (1 Cor.15:35-42).
 


[ROMANS 8:19-21 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God, because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
(KJV).

LUKE 3:6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.'" (NKJ)

ACTS 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. (KJV)

REV. 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. (KJV)

REV. 21:5 And He that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And He said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. (KJV

ECCLESIASTES 3:18 I said in my heart, "Concerning the condition of the sons of men, God tests them, that they may see that they themselves are like animalsâ€Â. (NKJ)

ECCLESIASTES 3:19-20 Man's fate is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath, man has no advantage over the animal. Everything is meaningless. All go to the same place; all come from dust and to dust all return. (NIV)

ROMANS 8:19-21 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God, because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
(KJV).

LUKE 3:6 teaches that and all flesh shall see the salvation of God. (KJV)

PSALM 36:6 Your righteousness is like the mighty mountains, your judgments are like the great deep; you save humans and animals alike, O LORD. (NRS)

PSALM 104:29 Thou hidest Thy face -- they are troubled, Thou gatherest their spirit -- they expire, and unto their dust they turn back. (YLT)

GENESIS 1:30 and to every animal of the earth, and to every fowl of the heavens, and to everything that creepeth on the earth, in which is a living soul, every green herb for food. And it was so. (DBY)
 
JOHN WESLEY
(Text from the 1872 edition)

SERMON SIXTY THE GENERAL DELIVERANCE "The earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him that subjected it: Yet in hope that the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption, into the glorious liberty of the sons of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth, and travaileth in pain together until now." (Romans 8:19-22).

Animals Do Have a Soul

In the Old Testament, the soul means "living being." The soul is the living being of a person or an animal. The soul is the psyche, the mind, the emotions, the self-image -- the psychological being apart from the spiritual being.
The King James Authorized Version, revised and edited by W.C. Sanderson, indicates in a footnote that "soul" or "living being" are alternative translations for "life." The soul perceives, thinks, feels, and makes decisions and choices. In man, the soul can also cause sin. God gave man the choice to choose sin or righteousness, to worship himself or God.
The lesser animals were not given this choice. God put them under the protection and dominion of man.

Animals Do Have a Spirit

The word "spirit" (ruach in Hebrew) means "wind, breath -- the living power of God's will at work." The spirit is the essence and will of God given to all humans and animals.
"I decided that God is testing us, to show us that we are no better than animals. After all, the same fate awaits man and animals alike. One dies just like the other. They are the same kind of creature. A human being is no better off than an animal, because life has no meaning for either. They are both going to the same place - the dust. They both came from it; they will both go back to it. How can anyone be sure that a man's spirit goes upward while an animal's spirit goes down into the ground?"
(Ecclesiastes 3:18-21 TEV)
God has dominion over both his lesser creatures and man. All souls belong to Him and God can do with all His creatures whatever He chooses. The Book of Job says:
"Who knoweth not in all these that the hand of the Lord hath wrought this? In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind."
(Job 12:9-10 KJV)

Animals Are Innocent

The Scriptures say that animals are not of themselves sinners, but are subject to the results of sin -- not of their own accord, but because of man's sins.
God subjected animals to death just as He did man. However, in doing so, He also gave them hope for the future. Paul wrote in the Book of Romans:
"Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now."
(Romans 8:21-22 KJV)


Animals Share in the Covenant with Noah


Sin continued and the condition of the earth worsened...God decided to destroy the world with a flood. However, He found one man named Noah who, along with his family, was righteous before Him. God decided to save Noah and his family and at least one pair of each kind of animal.
Genesis 9:8-16 gives us seven accounts of God's covenant with both man and animals concerning our survival on planet Earth as long as the earth remains. It says, in part, in the original DOUAY-RHEIMS version:
"...Thus also said God to Noe (Noah), and to his sons with him, behold, I establish my covenant with you and with your seed after you;
And with every living soul that is with you, as well in all birds as in cattle and beasts of the earth, that are come forth out of the ark,
I will establish my covenant with you, and all flesh shall be no more destroyed with the waters of a flood,
And God said: This is the sign of the covenant which I give between me and you, and to every living soul that is with you, for perpetual generations.
And I will remember my covenant with you, and with every living soul that beareth flesh: and there shall no more be waters of a flood to destroy all flesh.
And the bow shall be in the clouds, and I shall see it, and shall remember the everlasting covenant that was made between God and every living soul of all flesh which is upon the earth."
(Genesis 9:3-16)
Animals were meant to live forever, just like Man
The Scriptures tell us that animals do have an eternal existence with God, along with the children of God. They have a soul and a spirit, just like we do. Paul's letter to the Ephesians tells us that God works all things (creation) after His will.
"Let everything he has made give praise to him. For he issues his command, and they came into being; he established them forever and forever. His orders will never be revoked."
(Psalm 148:5-6 TLB)



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The unpalatable truth is that animals are really insignificant in the big scheme of things, as eternity, or standing in the presence of God.
 
Animals are insignificant....?????

What is Christ to us but....

THE HOLY LAMB OF GOD!!!
 
Soma-sight, I'm not sure if this discussion board has rules about double posting, but that was five posts in a row.

Also, Christ being the Holy Lamb of God is a metaphor. As I'm sure you know, 'unflawed' lambs were sacrificed for people's sins, Jesus was the 'perfect lamb.' It doesn't prove that sheep go to heaven. I can't say whether or not animals will go to heaven when they die, but I will say that it seems unlikely.
 
Also, Christ being the Holy Lamb of God is a metaphor. As I'm sure you know, 'unflawed' lambs were sacrificed for people's sins, Jesus was the 'perfect lamb.' It doesn't prove that sheep go to heaven. I can't say whether or not animals will go to heaven when they die, but I will say that it seems unlikely.

I just posted a load of scriptural support.....

If you want to believe God is that lame.....

I just dont see the need for it....
 
Look, you get a dog to repent for chewing up the furniture, then we'll talk.

Just kidding.

But I never said that it wasn't true, just that to me it seems unlikely, depending on how you interperet the word of God... you can probably support sin with scripture.
 
I am busting out in laughter here, you guy's really think that animals go to heaven, or will be restored. I don't think that one of you read that entire post.Lyric says that it is to lengthy, but if you read it all you will know the truth. I an still laughing at you cats.
 
So wait.

Lying is a sin

However, telling a 5 year old that their puppy will be in heaven when they get there is what?

if they don't go to heaven, where do they go?
 
Lewis W said:
I am busting out in laughter here, you guy's really think that animals go to heaven, or will be restored. I don't think that one of you read that entire post.Lyric says that it is to lengthy, but if you read it all you will know the truth. I an still laughing at you cats.
Yes Lewis, you are the purveyor of all that is truth. We can find it in your chain mails and then we must all bow to it.

We feel terrible that we have been so duped and not seen the truth that you have bestowed upon us. Please do not laugh to hard as we are trying and hope to one day be as advanced in knowlege as you. We proclaim you as our leader and the one to guide our steps down the straight and narrow path of lewis.



pffft!

No, I don't care to read through your rambling diatribe because it is silly.
 
Lewis W said:
I am busting out in laughter here, you guy's really think that animals go to heaven, or will be restored. I don't think that one of you read that entire post.Lyric says that it is to lengthy, but if you read it all you will know the truth. I an still laughing at you cats.

I think it's pretty lame and RUDE of you to mock those that believe something different than you. It's like a slap in the face and that isn't very Christian-like. NOBODY knows if animals will be in heaven....including YOU. The bible is a very hard book to understand sometimes and I believe that there is so much more to God than what the bible says. The bible is only a portion of all that God can do.

I find comfort in believing that I will see my animals in heaven. I currently have a 14 year old dog that is showing her age more and more. The thought of her dying just kills me inside.
 
We feel terrible that we have been so duped and not seen the truth that you have bestowed upon us. Please do not laugh to hard as we are trying and hope to one day be as advanced in knowlege as you. We proclaim you as our leader and the one to guide our paths down the straight and narrow path of lewis.
You will never have my superior mind, and yes I am your leader, and yes you should bow to my every word. Don't you know that I can have you thrown on the rack, or have you shot with just a lift of my finger. For I am king, and for now on I am to be addressed as your highness. And when ever you see me always cower down or bow, or get on your knees, because your head should never be higher than mine.
For I have spoken.
 
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