Do you believe in Aliens ?

[johnny botwright]

Do you believe in Aliens ?

Some believe we are created in Gods image, to have fellowship with our Heavenly Father, and we can become through the Lord Jesus Christ, sons and daughters of the most high.

Putting us above the angels, angels to are said to walk among us, in the book of revelations, we see other life forms beings in Heaven,

so we Have a God Head then us, Angels, Satan, fallen angels, demons.

some believe aliens are nothing more than a satanic deception, that aliens are demons, fallen angels.

we see humans animals reptiles ect can be host to demonic spirits, demons.

could be were the reptilian theory comes from, humans possessed by a fallen angel demon.

we see to in the book of Revelations, in the end times the Abyss is opened,we see the creatures that emerge from the pit, the face of a man, the hair of a women, the teeth of a lion, hybrids?

who torment men for five months , then take human hosts, and slay a third of man kind, revelations chapter 9

The Heavens that are said to declare the Glory of God, His infinite wisdom and power.

its written that the heavens roll up like a scroll in a moment in a twinkling of an eye.

and then a new Heaven and a new earth are created, its written the new Earth , has no sea, and there is no sun, its lit by the super natural light from God.


so is there life, other races out side the earth, ?

or are we it? .

God created the Heavens and the Earth, then created man and women.

johnny

 

[Nick]

So what exactly is your Biblical arguement for aliens existing? I'm not sure where in Revelation you're getting these other life forms from.

 

[Damascus]

I think aliens are a satanic deception, and that we will be hearing more and more about them in coming days.

 

[Tina]

I also often wondered why God created many other planets in the solar system if absolutely no life forms are found in there..


But don't worry about us, we aren't as eerie as you think, just harmless but saved beings like human believers in Christ.

 

[Classik]

They don't exist (except as demons), and even if they do we will still defeat them in soccer

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[stovebolts]

Johnny,

No, I do not believe in Aliens any more than I believe in the boogie man.

 

[for_his_glory]

who knows for sure what lays within this vast universe and what else God could have create for His good pleasure. There could be what we call aliens out there and it could be that God never intended them to have contact with other planets. Ya never know what lurks around on other planets that are separate from our own galaxyed!

 

[Classik]

who knows for sure what lays within this vast universe and what else God could have create for His good pleasure. There could be what we call aliens out there and it could be that God never intended them to have contact with other planets. Ya never know what lurks around on other planets that are separate from our own galaxyed!

Assuming they exist what would they look like? Would they look more beautiful? Do they have footballers too?

 

[Cheyenne K]

Not at all.

For there to be aliens in our universe, they would have had to do the exact same thing as Adam and Eve at the exact same moment. Because when Adam ate the apple, the entire universe fell with him. If the aliens did not eat the fruit or do the equivalent of what Adam did, they would fall unfairly. Even if they did, it would still seem that they were doomed to fall regardless of their own choice simply because of their Earth counterparts.
Also, scientists are now discovering that if any galaxy was one bit smaller or larger, life on Earth could not exist. I think God puts a lot of care and stock into our one, measly planet. Which is pretty cool.
Besides, our God is a creative one, and the stars clearly show the Glory of such. Let's let Him be creative without assuming some other motive. ;)

 

[for_his_glory]

Not at all.

For there to be aliens in our universe, they would have had to do the exact same thing as Adam and Eve at the exact same moment. Because when Adam ate the apple, the entire universe fell with him. If the aliens did not eat the fruit or do the equivalent of what Adam did, they would fall unfairly. Even if they did, it would still seem that they were doomed to fall regardless of their own choice simply because of their Earth counterparts.
Also, scientists are now discovering that if any galaxy was one bit smaller or larger, life on Earth could not exist. I think God puts a lot of care and stock into our one, measly planet. Which is pretty cool.
Besides, our God is a creative one, and the stars clearly show the Glory of such. Let's let Him be creative without assuming some other motive. ;)

First off, it never states in the Bible that the fruit offered to Eve was an apple nor does it say the whole universe fell that day. It only states that their eyes were opened now to know good and evil, but that is another topic all together.

Second, let's say there were and still are aliens on other unknown planets at the time of Adam and Eve, as with God having no beginning nor end so is His universe which expands far from our own Milky Way and has no end, why would they have to do the exact same thing at the exact same time as it was only those here on Earth that fell to sin on that day.

These aliens, being created by God, could be perfect in all their created form never being corrupted by what we know as sin. They could have a different culture (lifestyle) that has never changed from the beginning as always being pleasing to God so how would they fall into sin because of Adam and Eve's transgression against God and why would they be part of Earths counterpart if they are different then us in completely in every way. Could it be when God created the planet Earth and said he would make man after His own image that He was speaking of something different than what he created the other aliens to be or even look like.

I know this is silly, but it's only hypothetical since know one knows for sure if they even are aliens out there.

 

[Pizzaguy]

who knows for sure what lays within this vast universe and what else God could have create for His good pleasure. There could be what we call aliens out there and it could be that God never intended them to have contact with other planets. Ya never know what lurks around on other planets that are separate from our own galaxyed!

Emphasis mine. Many say that there "must be someone else out there, otherwise all that space is wasted".

As for myself, given your statement, maybe I have an explanation: All the space out there is because, as far as we are concerned, there is no one out there. Certainly if there IS life out there, we'll never know it and they will never know about us.

The expanse of interstellar space prohibits "planet hopping" as done in Star Trek. Anyone with a grasp of mathematics and physics will admit that interstellar space travel is simply fiction. There is more evidence for Darwin's theory than for interstellar space travel.

 

[jasoncran]

They don't exist (except as demons), and even if they do we will still defeat them in soccer

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thor lol. yup he visited midguard alot and talked with daniel jackson and or col onneil alot.

 

[johnny botwright]

Nick i was reffering to revelations chapter 4, which descibes different creatures in heaven , life forms,

we also see an aray of spiritual creatures coming out of the abyss, in revelations chapter nine.




Alien spiritual beliefs


i cannot say ive come across, dosnt say its not out there, any ones account, who say they have been abducted, or interact with aliens,

just an example the adromina council , ect that aliens are said to have their own belief system in a diety out side of them selves, that they are said to interact with.


johnny

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[phantom309]

Hey Johnny,
I used to wonder about this occasionally,but in recent years some things have made me inclined to say no.

The bible doesnt exclude the possibility of life elsewhere,but all the same we seem to hold a special place in Gods eyes.Therefore,its hard for me to imagine a race of green-skinned,super-smart and bug-eyed beings who are so technologically advanced that they regularly traverse the cosmic expanses and somehow escape detection/exposure on such a large scale.

Obviously something is going on,though,as evidenced by the overwhelming reports each year by thousands of people across the globe.

As time goes by I become more convinced that the aircraft we see are little more than experimental govt projects.Its understandably difficult to test said objects without being spotted and still refrain from unnecessary disclosure,and far too easy to plant the idea of interstellar beings with questionable agendas at work behind it.The mixture of paranoia,imagination and curiosity does the work for them from there..all they have to do is deny involvement and act as if nothing happened.

The ninja of feudal Japan operated in much the same manner.They used the extreme superstitious nature of their culture to cultivate a reputation of power and mystique.They would intentionally stir up rumors,stage dramatic displays of supernatural strength and let the grapevine do the rest.Although the times were different,the methods remain much the same.

 

[johnny botwright]

Yes well put. some one lights the torch paper, and the imagination can fuel the fire, ive thought this to, black opps craft, there was recently, photo,s, of what looked like a UFO on the back of a low loader, truck,
passing through a town in the US.

There is indeed a mystery though, its said Angels walk among us, so would appear as one of us, so i ask my self how do they come and go, by craft, or pass through the spiritual real, dimention, step into time, from out side of time ?

then i ask myself , where is the abyss, and the creatures that come out of the abyss, hybrids ect have their orgins.


we see described strange human animal like creatures in revelations chapter 4 and 9


is the Abyss a vortex, that is opened, a star gate, or a place in the spiritual realm.

then we see Jesus returning in great power and glory, with the host of heaven with him,

again a spiritual happening ,or by craft, we see to the new Jerusalem coming down from heaven to earth, when there is a new heaven and a new earth

some say a cube, others say a pyramid, 1500 miles long, 1500 miles wide, 1500 miles high, some one might ask a mother ship.

again mere speculation, Gods creation full of mystery , we see through a glass darkly, smoked glass,

i have often asked my self , how advanced is technology , in Heaven. ?


is there anybody out there, are we alone , probaly, maybe, maybe not ?

johnny


what some other people had to say, believe


http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=198382


if the whole thing ie ufo alien is nothing more than a deception, or the most part, then many people are being deceived by this deception.

The Vatican has issued a statement concerning alien life .

As Christians our children, or others may ask our take, understanding, perspective, on the subject, always a good opportunity to share.

 

[Classik]

Yes well put. some one lights the torch paper, and the imagination can fuel the fire, ive thought this to, black opps craft, there was recently, photo,s, of what looked like a UFO on the back of a low loader, truck,
passing through a town in the US.

There is indeed a mystery though, its said Angels walk among us, so would appear as one of us, so i ask my self how do they come and go, by craft, or pass through the spiritual real, dimention, step into time, from out side of time ?

then i ask myself , where is the abyss, and the creatures that come out of the abyss, hybrids ect have their orgins.

is the Abyss a vortex, that is opened, a star gate, or a place in the spiritual realm.

then we see Jesus returning in great power and glory, with the host of heaven with him,

again a spiritual happening ,or by craft, we see to the new Jerusalem coming down from heaven to earth, when there is a new heaven and a new earth

some say a cube, others say a pyramid, 1500 miles long, 1500 miles wide, 1500 miles high, some one might ask a mother ship.

again mere speculation, Gods creation full of mystery , we see through a glass darkly, smoked glass,

i have often asked my self , how advanced is technology , in Heaven. ?


is there anybody out there, are we alone , probaly, maybe, maybe not ?

johnny

I love your post

i have often asked my self , how advanced is technology , in Heaven. ?

I have asked the same question a million times. The answer is: Heaven is perfect! Efficiency is 100 percent.

I was told when I was a kid that a bean grain in heaven is as huge as a fist

 

[Nick]

Nick i was reffering to revelations chapter 4, which descibes different creatures in heaven , life forms,

Revelation 4 describes these creatures as, or like, animals. Verse 7:

the first living creature like a lion, the second living creature like an ox, the third living creature with the face of a man, and the fourth living creature like an eagle in flight. (ESV)​

Not sure how you got an alien life-form from Revelation 4. Ezekiel 1:10 and 10:4 confirm this.

we also see an aray of spiritual creatures coming out of the abyss, in revelations chapter nine.

I don't see anything of the sort. In which verse(s)?


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I'm not saying alien life is impossible, but from my understanding of the Bible and space, I seriously doubt it.

But whether there is or is not life out there in the universe, we must be very careful to not get caught up in the search for alien life and the obsession of UFO's. It's not healthy and clearly not a priority of God's for us, otherwise it would be clearly written in the Bible.

Seek first the Kingdom of God, not aliens.

 

[johnny botwright]

revelations chapter 4 and 9 other life forms, im not saying they are alien, human hybrids, just different to any thing we know, and not as i under stand an angel or demon ,

creatures with wings covered in eyes?

ie the face of a man, the hair of a women, the teeth of a lion. ?


what some other people had to say, believe


http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=198382 as mentioned before i do not hold with the views of david icke, but a forum where christain input is welcome by most, for example one post recently 18.000 plus views , so you can sow some seeds, bring some thing to the table to share,


if the whole thing ie ufo alien is nothing more than a deception, or the most part, then many people are being deceived by this deception.

project blue beam, the use of holographics

The Vatican has issued a statement concerning alien life .

Its also written that God will send a strong dellusion in the end times , which is any ones guess what this strong dellusion may or maynot be,

but it could be around this subject ? ie false flag alien encounter ect.

when i was younger some friends and i were fishing at a lake, we heard a high pitch noise, some dogs started barking at a farm near by, then just for a brief moment we saw five discs flying in a v formation ?

AS Nick mentions nothing to be obsessed with ,

As Christians our children, or others may ask our take, understanding, perspective, on the subject, always a good opportunity to share.

most people/ children today do believe in aliens, ufo,s, the possability of an alien invasion, alien encounter, influenced by films star trek, star wars, independace days,war of the worlds, sky line, avatar, transformers, ect

i have also had a dream where there was a full on ufo invasion, i was working a night shift , when ufo,s flew over, the shift manager was saying we neednt to finish the shift , we were like , it was no longer a priority.

in another dream , we were being hunted by ufo,s those on the ufo,s it was more like the chronicals of Riddick, were human , some had psyhcic ability, and they were the forces of the anti christ.

hunting down the resistance,and people who had not taken the mark of the beast,





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs4emKd_fG4









johnny

 

[jasoncran]

johnny at least consider jewish imagery and symbols given to the jews for the jews by god and iit up to us today to understand from their angle.

the menora means a lot more then a seven candled light used in worship. so does the mercy seat and also the names and also the cherubims.

 

[johnny botwright]

Hi Jason trust you and your family are well, as to your coments, the point being, ? enlighten us,

many believe we have been visited in the past, anchient drawings carvings technical, engineering advances,

out side influence , still said to be the same today, where it is claimed alien technology is being used, people claiming to have worked with E.Ts greys ect.

area 51

i havnt seen anything in scripture to support these claims ?





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs4emKd_fG4