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I know you quoted the YLT, hence my comment. The YLT, at the eSword version, has all the extra text greyed out, meaning that it isn't actually in the Greek text.
Sorry but no, you not demonstrated anything of the sort. Not one passage or verse you have given proves that the Trinity is false or a "doctrine of man."
But without controversy this great mystery is understood by comprehending the Awesome power demonstrated, when God was manifest in the flesh (1 Tim 3:16).
John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Jesus in the flesh did not become another God at all; he did however proceed or come forth from God, as the visible manifestation of God Himself.
John 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
The earthly appearance of Christ Jesus represents the one true God; with many majestic names - that sacrificed a part of himself for us in the flesh. Once He returned to the father the singularity of God was as it was before He arrived.
John 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
The mystery of the trinity is revealed as yet another man made doctrine of deception.
1 Tim 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
There is no real mystery of the trinity; God was manifest in the flesh, and revealed to the world as Jesus the Christ. Christ always was, is, and will forever be God.
Although one could refer to the manifestation of Jesus in the flesh as a person, it must be understood that he is unlike any other. He was not created from the seed of man, was sinless and had the power to rise from the dead unassisted (John 10:18). When one adds Christ to the name of Jesus, the mystery of the trinity dissolves. Christ is not a person, but is God, and death is not possible for an Eternal God.
John 4:24 God is Spirit: and they that worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.
The carnal mind is in opposition against God, for it has not submitted to the law of God, nor can it (Romans 8:7). It is this carnal mind that creates the mystery of the trinity.
People generally speaking are attracted to the wisdom of men, especially those who have graduated from a theological seminary or college. Many religious leaders speak of the mystery of the trinity, or use words such as hermeneutics, exegesis or trinitarian theology. Congregations become enamored with the supposed superior spiritual intellect of these leaders, and their ostentatious words.
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
It is the institution of the Holy Spirit whereby we are taught to rightly divide the Word of Truth, enabling us to then share these truths with others. God does this and not man.
Instead of receiving a diploma from a man made institution of deception, true followers of Christ are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise (Eph 1:13). Our graduation ceremony is when Christ returns with our Salvation, and says well done faithful servant (Math 25:21).
1 Cor 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
Too many people readily accept the mystery of the trinity doctrine as an essential teaching because self proclaimed ministers say it is so. Without the teaching of the Holy Spirit, men speak with their own wisdom which is dangerous and destructive.
The simple believes every word but the wise considers all things (Prov 14:15; Rom 16:18).
The genesis of the mystery of the trinity may be as a result of the obvious mistranslation from a verse many are familiar with. God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”.
When one removes the inserted words, let us and our, the verse takes on a completely different meaning.
One singular God spoke, not many Gods or persons.
The so-called mystery of the trinity does not add clarity to the nature of God, and it certainly diminishes the essence and Glory of Jesus.
John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
The first use of the word and (G 1161) in the above verse is used correctly, as it is a continuative. The second use of the word and (G2352) should be translated as even, also or indeed, as it is a connector. The words thou hast, need to be completely removed from this verse as well.
The correct interpretation of this verse is as follows.
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, even Jesus Christ, whom is sent forth.
The only True God is also known as Jesus Christ, the Word and our Messiah.
Please don't be so arrogant as to presume that only those who hold to your position have studied the Bible and the rest only parrot. That statement is not only false, it gets us nowhere.
Your argument is self-refuting because according to you, man could not have come up with it by themselves, yet, according to you, at some point some person or persons actually did come up with it.
I don't have the time to address this verse by verse, suffice it to say that not a single thing you have give here proves the Trinity false.
Dear Sir, according to mainstream Christianity the formula is in this verse
If you believe that the trinity doctrine is spirit inspired so be it, Nothing left to say
I would tell them that the question is a totally different topic and to start another thread to discuss it.
Parker I think you are right. I should have done this on the PM. Thanks.
