guibox said:
What I need is to stop wasting my time talking to you and answering your posts. oscar, you are far in over your head because you cannot dispute or even seemingly understand what I or anybody else is posting. Your immature responses and name calling are proof of that.
Instead of trying to prove my take on 1 Corinthians 15 and offer your own solution, you resort to slander.
This has gone on long enough. Atonement said you had one more strike. I am going to see if he will do good on his offer...You have just been reported, and you will keep being reported until Atonement or another mod sends you packing.
We tried to warn you enough times...Goodbye my friend.
1 COR 15
The Risen Christ, Faith's Reality
15 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain.
3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, 5 and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve. 6 After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have fallen asleep. 7 After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles. 8 Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one born out of due time.
9 For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. 11 Therefore, whether it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed.
The Risen Christ, Our Hope
12 Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. 14 And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 15 Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up-if in fact the dead do not rise. 16 For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. 17 And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! 18 Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable.
The Last Enemy Destroyed
20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming. 24 Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be destroyed is death. 27 For "He has put all things under His feet." But when He says "all things are put under Him," it is evident that He who put all things under Him is excepted. 28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.
Effects of Denying the Resurrection
29 Otherwise, what will they do who are baptized for the dead, if the dead do not rise at all? Why then are they baptized for the dead? 30 And why do we stand in jeopardy every hour? 31 I affirm, by the boasting in you which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. 32 If, in the manner of men, I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantage is it to me? If the dead do not rise, "Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die!"
33 Do not be deceived: "Evil company corrupts good habits." 34 Awake to righteousness, and do not sin; for some do not have the knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.
A Glorious Body
35 But someone will say, "How are the dead raised up? And with what body do they come?" 36 Foolish one, what you sow is not made alive unless it dies. 37 And what you sow, you do not sow that body that shall be, but mere grain-perhaps wheat or some other grain. 38 But God gives it a body as He pleases, and to each seed its own body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh, but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of animals, another of fish, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness, it is raised in power. 44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45 And so it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being." The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the earth, made of dust; the second Man is the Lord from heaven. 48 As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man.
Our Final Victory
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption. 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed- 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: "Death is swallowed up in victory."
55 "O Death, where is your sting?
O Hades, where is your victory?"
56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.
15:1, 2 Paul's gospel to the Corinthians centered on the physical death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, the eternal Son of God who became human yet never sinned (see Gal. 1:6). Paul had started the Corinthian church; the gospel that the Corinthians had originally received came from him (2:2).
Facts About the Resurrection
The resurrection of Christ was proclaimed eagerly by the early church. This miracle was considered an essential part of the gospel message. Surely Christ had died, but more importantly, He had been raised. More than just a suffering Savior, Jesus is our living Lord.
Christs resurrection was prophesied in the Old Testament Scriptures (Ps. 16:10).
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The risen Christ appeared to more than five hundred witnesses, including Paul.
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If Jesus did not rise from the dead, the gospel message is pointless, empty, and dishonest. Jesus Christ would not be alive, interceding for us, and we would not be able to place our hope in a glorious future with Him. The Resurrection is central to the gospel.
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According to Paul, "if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins" (15:17; see Rom. 4:25). Christs resurrection, not merely His death on the Cross, secured our justification. His resurrection was a sign of Gods approval of Christs sacrifice for our sins. In short, no Resurrection equals no forgiveness of sin.
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The resurrection of Christ was designed to reveal what lies ahead for those who put their trust in Jesus (15:20). Paul called Christ "the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep" (15:20). This Old Testament image (see Ex. 23:16) means that Christ serves as both an example and a guarantee of what we can expect. Because He has conquered death (15:26, 27, 54), we need not fear death. Because He now enjoys a glorified body, we also can expect to inherit a "spiritual body" (15:44) after this mortal one wears out.
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Our dead, physical body will one day be resurrected.
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We will once again be both material and immaterial beings, our soul being reunited with our resurrected body.
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The power behind this marvelous, yet mysterious, event is Jesus, the self-declared "resurrection and the life" (John 11:25).
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Our physical body will be altered and changed to prepare us for the life to come. If Jesus is the prototype, we will still be recognizable, but our new body will be capable of supernatural activities (see Luke 24:31, 36, 51).
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Our resurrection will take place when Jesus returns (see 1 Thess. 4:13).
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15:3 Paul did not originate the proclamation of Jesus that he delivered to the Corinthians; he simply gave the Corinthians what he himself had received. He viewed himself as a link in a long chain of witnesses to the truth of the death and resurrection of Christ. Christ died for our sins: Christ's death dealt decisively with our sins. He suffered in our place to endure the just wrath of God against us. according to the Scriptures: Christ lived and died in accordance with the prophecies about Him in the Old Testament (see Ps. 16:10; Is. 53:8-10).
15:4 The Resurrection verifies the fact that Christ's death paid the full price for sin. The Greek term translated rose here is in the perfect tense, emphasizing the ongoing effects of this historical event. Christ is a risen Savior today.
15:5 At the time of Paul's writing, a person could have verified the truthfulness of the apostle's statements. The majority of the five hundred people who saw the risen Christ, as well as all the apostles and James (the half brother of Jesus), were still living. Born out of due time is probably Paul's comment on the unique way he became an apostle. Unlike the other apostles, who had the benefit of an initial training period with Christ, Paul became an apostle abruptly, with no opportunity for earthly contact with Christ or His teaching.
15:9 Paul considered himself the least of the apostles because at one time he had persecuted the church (see Acts 22:4; Eph. 3:8; 1 Tim. 1:15, 16).
15:10 I labored more abundantly: Even though Paul got a late start and did not have the discipleship training that the other apostles did, he traveled further, established more churches, and wrote more Scripture than all of them (see 2 Cor. 11:23). But Paul attributed his success to the grace of God.
15:11 whether . . . I or they: Paul did not care who got credit for the Corinthians faith. He cared only that the Corinthians believed.
15:12, 13 Some of the Corinthians were teaching that there is no resurrection. These opponents of Paul may have been denying the reality of Christ's resurrection. They may also have been teaching that resurrection is only spiritual rather than physical. Or they may have been teaching that the resurrection had already happened (see 2 Tim. 2:18). Whatever the case, they contradicted the essential teaching that Christ had been physically raised from the dead and that believers in Him will someday also be resurrected.
Word Focus
resurrection
(Gk. anastasis) (15:12, 13, 21, 42; Acts 17:32; Rom. 1:4; 1 Pet. 1:3) Strong's 386: The Scriptures often speak of Christ's resurrection with the phrase that is literally "resurrection out from among dead ones." This is the wording in the first half of 15:12 and in other verses (see Acts 17:31; 1 Pet. 1:3). When Scripture speaks of the resurrection in general, commonly the phrase is "a resurrection of dead ones." This is the wording in the second half of 15:12 (see also 15:13, 42). In Rom. 1:4, Christ's resurrection is spoken of as "a resurrection of dead ones." The same terminology is used in 15:21, where the Greek text literally reads: "For since through a man death came, so also through a Man came a resurrection of dead persons." This shows that Christ's resurrection included the resurrection of believers to eternal life. When He arose, many arose with Him, for they were united with Him in His resurrection (see Rom. 6:4, 5; Eph. 2:6; Col. 3:1).
15:15 false witnesses: In vv. 5, Paul listed several people, including himself, who had witnessed the resurrected Christ. To deny the Resurrection was to deny the truth of their testimony.
15:17 you are still in your sins: Christ's death without His resurrection would not succeed in saving us from our sins.
15:18 Without the resurrection of Christ, those who are asleep in Christ-the dead-have perished or been destroyed. The Greek word translated futile in this passage speaks of something that has no results. Without the resurrection of Christ, the Christian faith brings no forgiveness and no future life in God's presence.
15:19 we are of all men the most pitiable: If Christians have no hope for the future, the pagans could justifiably consider Christians fools since believers would have suffered for nothing.
15:20 Jesus is the firstfruits of all others who believe in Him. This is an Old Testament image of the first installment of a crop which anticipates and guarantees the ultimate offering of the whole crop (see 16:15; Rom. 8:23). Because Christ rose from the dead, those who are asleep in Christ (v. 18; 1 Thess. 4:15, 16) have a guarantee of their own resurrection.
15:21, 22 by man came death: The first man, Adam, transgressed God's law and brought sin and death into the world (see Gen. 2:17; 3:19; Rom. 5:12); the second Man, Jesus Christ, was the perfect sacrifice to take away sin and to bring life and resurrection to those who believe in Him (see Rom. 5:15). in Christ all shall be made alive: The principle here is similar to that in Rom. 5:18, 19, where Paul explains that by one man's (Adam's) sin many were made unrighteous, whereas by one Man's (Christ's) obedience many will be made righteous.
15:23 Each one in his own order indicates that God has a certain design for the resurrection. The word order is a Greek military term that might also be translated "rank." The Commander is raised first; His troops afterward. In 1 Thess. 4:13, His coming is described as Christ's coming with those who have "fallen asleep" (the dead), who are then united with their physical bodies. Following this is the removal of all living Christians from the earth.
15:24 The end here refers to all remaining prophetic events that will occur after the rapture of the church and during the climax of history, when Christ puts an end to all rule (vv. 25). delivers the kingdom to God the Father: When Christ and the church are joined at His coming, God will establish His kingdom on this earth, culminating in a new heavens and a new earth. puts an end to all rule and all authority: Until the time of the end, the Father subjugates everything to the Son (see Ps. 110:1; Dan. 2:44; 7:14, 27). Christ is Lord over the universe (see Col. 1:15).
15:25, 26 all enemies: God has allowed His enemy Satan to rule as the "prince of the power of the air" (see Eph. 2:2) and the "god of this age" (see 2 Cor. 4:4), but his final judgment before God is certain. The last enemy . . . death: The conquering of death is final proof of God's victory and the inauguration of the new day of the Lord (see Rev. 20:14).
15:27, 28 it is evident: Paul clarified the verses that he had been quoting from the Old Testament. The texts say that everything is put under the Son, but God the Father is excepted, or excluded from this subjugation, because the Son must be subject to the Father. God may be all in all indicates that there will be no challenge to the sovereign rule of God over all the universe. There will be universal peace and prosperity.
15:29 It may be that some of the Corinthians had for some reason been baptized for others who had died without baptism. Paul did not approve or disapprove of the unusual practice, though he used they rather than "we" when speaking of it. if the dead do not rise . . . Why then are they baptized: To deny the resurrection, as the Corinthians did, and yet be involved in such baptism activities made no sense.
15:30 why do we stand in jeopardy: Paul risked his life daily. To do so would have been of no advantage without the hope of a resurrection. Why else should Paul have endured difficulties like fighting beasts at Ephesus? It would have been better for him to take the position of the Epicureans, who sought pleasure and avoided pain. The reference to beasts might be a figurative reference to Paul's human enemies at Ephesus. Acts 19 does not record any confrontation with animals.
15:33, 34 Paul had already warned the Corinthians to avoid fellow believers who lived immoral lives (5:9). Quoting a proverb from the poet Menander, evil company corrupts good habits, Paul warned the Corinthians to stay away from those who teach false doctrine (see 2 Cor. 6:14-7:1).
15:35 Some people objected to the resurrection on the grounds that it was too hard to understand. Paul called these people foolish. Difficulty understanding the nature of the resurrection should not cause a person to doubt its reality, any more than not understanding how a seed becomes a plant should cause disbelief in the coming harvest.
15:38 The variety found in nature among living beings such as men, animals, fish, and birds, and among objects such as celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies reflect the Creator's power and will. The varying brightness of the sun, moon, and stars serves as a good illustration of the differences between the earthly human body and the heavenly human body. All these different celestial and terrestrial objects are evidence that God the Creator can certainly create new resurrected human bodies out of our old bodies.
15:44 natural . . . spiritual: The contrast is not between a material body and an immaterial body, but between a body subject to death and a body that is immortal. The Greek term translated spiritual here refers to a body directed by the Spirit, as opposed to one dominated by the flesh (2:15; 10:4). First man . . . second Man contrasts the sinful nature that every person inherits with the new righteous nature that comes through Christ.
Word Focus
life-giving spirit
(Gk. pneuma zoopoioun) (15:45; 2 Cor. 3:6; 1 Pet. 3:18) Strong's 4151; 2227: The Greek expression denotes "the spirit that gives life" or "the spirit that makes alive." The Lord Jesus entered into a new kind of existence when He was raised from the dead because He was glorified and simultaneously became life-giving spirit. The verse does not say Jesus became "the Spirit," since the Second Person of the Trinity did not become the Third Person. Rather, Jesus became spirit in the sense that His mortal existence and form were changed into that which is spiritual. As One now united with the Spirit in a glorified body, Jesus is no longer bound by His mortal body. He is alive in the Spirit (see 1 Pet. 3:18), to give life to all who believe. This is why Paul speaks of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus (Rom. 8:2).
15:50 Mere flesh and blood cannot enter into the glorious existence of an immortal body (vv. 35). Something must happen to this flesh so that it becomes incorruptible (v. 42).
15:51, 52 we shall all be changed: The teaching here is similar to the teaching given to the Thessalonians (see 1 Thess. 4:13). Whereas the dead in Christ will be raised first, the living believers will be instantly transformed into their immortal bodies when Jesus returns.
15:53 The living will receive a body that is not subject to death (see v. 50). Satan's apparent victories in the Garden of Eden (see Gen. 3:13) and at the Cross (see Mark 15:22) were reversed by Jesus death (see Col. 2:15) and resurrection. From the vantage point of Jesus victorious return, Death and Hades (the grave) have no power over Christians, because Jesus has already conquered both. We participate in His victory.
15:58 The Corinthians were to continue steadfast in the work of Christ, specifically because of the resurrection. your labor is not in vain: All the work that we do for Christ will be rewarded (see 2 Cor. 5:10; Rev. 22:12).
