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This is why I think Christians have the potential to be some of the worst people on the Earth.

If I keep the Sabbath - I'm a Seventh Day Adventist. If I don't believe in a literal 1000 years - I'm amil. If I eat Kosher - I'm a legalist. And the list goes on and on and on.

Why do people need to label people? Can't you see that it is nothing more than a form of "name calling". Mostly in derogatory nature I'm sure since people want to immediately show the separation between each other in a condescending manner.

Don't label me! I hate that ...

I created this thread as a formal protest to all of my brothers and sisters in the Lord.

Hopefully something good will come out of all this ...
 
I agree with ya.... Drives me nuts seeing it done. I used to be labeled a Calvinist (still am I suppose) and I thought it was an insult both to me and Calvin because I never read his work. Come to find out, John Calvin wasn't even a calvinist! In any sense, I'm a Christian. That's all that needs to be said.
 
I'm the same.

Calvinist - lovely in the way of what I have read of Spurgeon v extremist (hyper - Calvinism) chess playing God with men as the kings, pawns, etc. then burns some for doing what He made them do?

Pentecostal - willingly to let the Spirit lead v extremist (hyper - Pentecostal) rolling around, barking like dogs, yike what spirit lead that, (usually natural man)?

And all of the others inbetween, there is good/bad in all. Understanding/Misunderstanding.
 
This is why I think Christians have the potential to be some of the worst people on the Earth.

If I keep the Sabbath - I'm a Seventh Day Adventist. If I don't believe in a literal 1000 years - I'm amil. If I eat Kosher - I'm a legalist. And the list goes on and on and on.

Why do people need to label people? Can't you see that it is nothing more than a form of "name calling". Mostly in derogatory nature I'm sure since people want to immediately show the separation between each other in a condescending manner.

Don't label me! I hate that ...

I created this thread as a formal protest to all of my brothers and sisters in the Lord.

Hopefully something good will come out of all this ...

Hi Joe, I think you would have been better served if you came out and said that you are a Seventh Day Adventist. I think most people have some kind of understanding of what you believe.

You could ask people what problems they have with Seventh Day Adventists and it could be discussed in a friendly manner.

I for one, did not not know who you were or where you were coming from.

I once attended a Seventh Day Adventist church and enjoyed the service.

Though you believe in a few things differently then me, I don't have a problem with it.

The important thing is that we can have fellowship here and that we can all learn from each other.

With that, I say "welcome Joe".
 
I see in her heart she's like an angel.
oh, she's puts that big front on about guns and stuff, but she's full of love.
So, since she likes labels, she should be too.

Well, sure, she's a wonderful person! So calling her and angel is ok.... But I was under the impression that the "labels" were of a different mode. More along the lines of being called a "Calvinist" or something like that....
 
Do you know where the label Christian came from?

Sure.... So that's one label I like.... Do we need others?


That's why I like labels. More times than not it helps me know what I am dealing with.

I am a wife, mother, business women, gym rat, southern baptist, political advocate, children's bible teacher, biblical financial counselor, volunteer, housewives of anywhere tv viewer, low carb/no sugar advocate, christian forum member, gun owner, GRITS--girl raised in the south, social worker, ..........................

These labels all tell you things about me. Your labels tell me something about you.

I don't like Non-demoninational Chruches because I don't know what they heck it is they believe.

If however they say Southern Baptist, Luthern, Methodist, etc. I know what they believe.
 
I don't think labels themselves are the problem, but the attitude that people develope with labels. I think some people allow themselves to get lazy and use labels liberally to make points such as "the left" thinks this or does this. The label becomes whatever the person using to wants it to be. If they want it to be positive, they'll find the positive aspects. If they want negative, etc.


I like labels because it makes conversation easier, but I hate them when labels are used so a person can make a lazy argument.
 
I don't think labels themselves are the problem, but the attitude that people develope with labels. I think some people allow themselves to get lazy and use labels liberally to make points such as "the left" thinks this or does this. The label becomes whatever the person using to wants it to be. If they want it to be positive, they'll find the positive aspects. If they want negative, etc.


I like labels because it makes conversation easier, but I hate them when labels are used so a person can make a lazy argument.
Good points.
I tend to hate labels, but I do see that we cannot help but label things - words are how we communicate, even if it is most often prematurely concluding.

Still, I think labels identifying people as something, tend to inspire too many cognitive distortions, like
-jumping to conclusions
-filtering
-polarized (black or white) thinking
-overgeneralizations
-blaming
-shoulds

A person is more than any one label...
A person is a composite of so many factors... one's spirit (eternally), personality, temperament, education, family life, birth order, friends influence, religious affiliation... etc.

One thing that bugs me is when I've been mislabeled based on misunderstandings - gossiped about & as a result relationships are destroyed, because often people believe what they hear instead of questioning it.
Also, often derogatory labels are not accurate descriptions of someone, but rather projections of the one giving the label...
"We see things not as they are but as we are."
 
Good points.
I tend to hate labels, but I do see that we cannot help but label things - words are how we communicate, even if it is most often prematurely concluding.

Still, I think labels identifying people as something, tend to inspire too many cognitive distortions, like
-jumping to conclusions
-filtering
-polarized (black or white) thinking
-overgeneralizations
-blaming
-shoulds

A person is more than any one label...
A person is a composite of so many factors... one's spirit (eternally), personality, temperament, education, family life, birth order, friends influence, religious affiliation... etc.

One thing that bugs me is when I've been mislabeled based on misunderstandings - gossiped about & as a result relationships are destroyed, because often people believe what they hear instead of questioning it.
Also, often derogatory labels are not accurate descriptions of someone, but rather projections of the one giving the label...
"We see things not as they are but as we are."
Thank you for the response. Yes, I agree with your points and you conveyed it in a better manner then I could. I think a good way to look at labels is to figure out what the person labels them self. Then from there we can delve into what they take or leave from the over arching idea of the label. This takes time, and I think the main problem is that people want to get information as soon as possible and use it. Its a need to win or feel they are on the right side. Those that disagree are wrong because they belong to a group or don't agree with "your" side.

I think we all do it, but I think what benefits us , is our attempts to recognize this and change it.
 
Do you know where the label Christian came from?

Sure.... So that's one label I like.... Do we need others?


That's why I like labels. More times than not it helps me know what I am dealing with.

I am a wife, mother, business women, gym rat, southern baptist, political advocate, children's bible teacher, biblical financial counselor, volunteer, housewives of anywhere tv viewer, low carb/no sugar advocate, christian forum member, gun owner, GRITS--girl raised in the south, social worker, ..........................

These labels all tell you things about me. Your labels tell me something about you.

I don't like Non-demoninational Chruches because I don't know what they heck it is they believe.

If however they say Southern Baptist, Luthern, Methodist, etc. I know what they believe.

well then I would be one of those that you wouldn't know fully. I am a pentacostal but I don't believe in all their doctrines., I am partial preterist amil. I am also into jewish thought and try to view the word with that culture in mind.
 
Thank you for the response. Yes, I agree with your points and you conveyed it in a better manner then I could. I think a good way to look at labels is to figure out what the person labels them self. Then from there we can delve into what they take or leave from the over arching idea of the label. This takes time, and I think the main problem is that people want to get information as soon as possible and use it. Its a need to win or feel they are on the right side. Those that disagree are wrong because they belong to a group or don't agree with "your" side.

I think we all do it, but I think what benefits us , is our attempts to recognize this and change it.
I agree that it's best to properly understand things before jumping to conclusive labels.
In a book I read about developing the mind of Christ - the last "mental" stage (before spiritual stages) is called "vision logic consciousness" where one is able to consider multiple perspectives.

To truly love others (to want what's best) requires such consciousness, because often if you do something loving for one person, it may hurt another.
It's kind of like chess - where you need to consider multiple possible consequences of each move.
Most people don't want to bother... &/or they are afraid of feeling wrong, so they just cling to lables, as if they are absolute unquestionable truths, when they are just the tip of an enormous iceberg.
 
I tasted a label once. It did not at all taste like the jar of pickles that it had been placed on. :gah



:chin That's just because the jar tasted like glass though; the label tasted like paper. I still wonder what those pickles would taste like. Good, I bet.
 
This is why I think Christians have the potential to be some of the worst people on the Earth.

If I keep the Sabbath - I'm a Seventh Day Adventist. If I don't believe in a literal 1000 years - I'm amil. If I eat Kosher - I'm a legalist. And the list goes on and on and on.

Why do people need to label people? Can't you see that it is nothing more than a form of "name calling". Mostly in derogatory nature I'm sure since people want to immediately show the separation between each other in a condescending manner.

Don't label me! I hate that ...

I created this thread as a formal protest to all of my brothers and sisters in the Lord.

Hopefully something good will come out of all this ...


and this is one of the reasons why we(the witnesses of God and Jesus) do not call ourselves anything - besides even (not) "christians", because if we call ourselves something then we risk to be labelled wrongly after one or another human doctrine/tradition which does not correspond to the Word/Will of the true God - unfortunately there were many misbeliefs in many denominations till now

Blessings
 
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