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  1. questdriven

    questdriven resident geek Staff Member Moderator

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    In Japan you can't drink until you're 20. Going by the animes I've watched at least.
     
  2. DavidC

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    One year up on us. Ha
    They all prolly drink sake.
    My dad works with some japanese, he invited a few ober for dinner and they all brought sake.
     
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    Your missing out on a lot of hangovers, headaches, lack of sleep and responsibility... And we haven't begun to talk about cigarettes in half full beer cans mistaken as your own and the broken relationships because of the stupidity of drunk teens or young adults with no boundsries....

    There is a reason I didn't drink for 25 years....
     
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  4. DavidC

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    Beer isn't even my generations drug of choice, it's weed or opiods or heroine, here is the real deal: I should add, this is in the state I live in, but one county north.

    http://q13fox.com/2017/08/11/survey-counts-37-overdose-victims-within-one-week/
     
  5. for_his_glory

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    Satan is the author of a twisted word!!!! they even called Jesus a winebibbler Matthew 16:18, 19.
     
  6. banded butterfly

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    Where is that found in this verse please?
    Matthew 16:18-19 And I tell you that you are Peter,and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hadeswill not overcome it.
    19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will bebound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will beloosed in heaven.”
     
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    Oops, it's Matthew 11:18,19
     
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    Matthew 11:18 For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon.’
    19 The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ But wisdom is proved right by her deeds.”
     
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    KJV says, But wisdom is justified of her children.
    There is wisdom in all we do and say as a child of God, but we must always remember to not be a stumbling block to those less learned. Wisdom is justified, but sometimes only in our eyes until others have understanding.
     
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    Yeah, I know. Although I live in Michigan, my family is from Spokane. My daughter who died of an overdose (8 ball) died in the month of December near Walla Walla 3 years ago. It was the 3rd death in the county that year... 2 years prior my brother died from a dirty needle in Spokane. Trust me, I get it.

    What's scary is the synthetic drugs, and it's just been reported that they are lacing the weed with fyntenol. Even the MDM is being compromised and people are dying.

    Anyway, you seem like a great guy. I like you. And I'm glad you have your head on straight. And I'm glad you don't drink.
     
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  11. banded butterfly

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    Alcohol never did a body good. If you're in high school you're not legally able to drink or buy alcohol. You also deserve better than to do that to a body that is still developing. Stay healthy don't drink.
     
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  12. Papa Zoom

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    I had 1/2 beer today. I think moderation is the key. Same with food. Moderation.
     
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    I do not drink, smoke, or do drugs. I did drink one sip of beer and it had no flavor. That it was all I needed and never went back!
     
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    I hate hard liquor and light beer. Although I had rum on Hawaii and it was tasty. But I won't start drinking that anytime soon. I prefer coffee and I drink that in moderation too.
     
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    Sure sorry to hear about your daughter and your brother.
    I am not sure I agree with Seattle's policy, but they hand out clean needles to the druggies there.
    Thanks for the compliment.
     
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    Sorry that happened Stove about your daughter and brother. As really hate that for you. :sad
     
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    Nothing worse than losing a child I think. I'm sorry for your loss. My brother lost his son and it stings still today. Deeply.
     
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    For me, the sting is gone as I've burried two of my children. What remains is a dull ache that seems is just under the surface of my day to day activities. I ran from it once I caught my breath from the sting that took my breath and that granted me 3 promotions at work with an almost $30,000 raise in the last 3 years. But my family fell apart and I didn't realize that until I stopped running from myself. And no, i did not drink when i lost my breath. I knew better.
    Yes, I now drink a beer on a daily basis and have so for the past year. On occation I'll take a few swigs of some gentleman's jack, but I rarely make a habit of it. Again, 1 beer and at times I find myself pouring some of it out.
    As I said, at times it's a comfort. It takes the dull ache away and at times, brings a smile to my face.
    It's my lot in life. I'm at peace with God, but the ache remains, and Gods grace is sufficient. Time heals and time is doing it's job. After experiencing these losses, I'm supposed to feel the way I feel. It's natural. I dont need a Xanax or any other prescription drug. Alcohol has been around for a long, long time. And just like I one shouldn't take a hand full of Xanax, one shouldn't drink to get drunk either.

    That's the way I see it anyway.
     
  19. Papa Zoom

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    My wife and my son are both recovering alcoholics. Nearly destroyed our family. My wife had a stroke and the doc told her drinking will kill her. She quit at that moment.

    My son has depression and nurses the pain with drinking. He's been in jail because of it. He's such a great kid otherwise. He's working on his sobriety every day.

    For me, I never cared too much for drinking. I don't like bars much. Too noisy. I like the library. That's my idea of a good time. I can't drink hard drinks because when I was a kid, I got into a bottle and am lucky I didn't die of alcohol poisoning. Just the smell of whisky makes me nauseous

    Same with pot. Tried it, didn't like it. Unlike Clinton, I did inhale. Ate a pot brownie once and that put me in lala land. That was it. When I was young and new everything if you know what I mean. It's hard enough in life to deal with things sober. And I need all the help I can get. If I never had another beer I wouldn't miss it. But coffee? Don't even come near my coffee. :lol The doc told me better to not drink any. I keep it to two or three a day. [​IMG]
     
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    Ha, I stopped drinking coffee last year about the same time I started drinking beer Lol! I was wrestling preparing for a tournament and had a scare. Cardiologist said no more maxing out my cardiovascular system and to cut down on the coffee unless I wanted to switch to decaff. I now enjoy coffee on the weekends, but not during the week. Yesterday at the doc, my pulse was 51 and my pressure was 101 over 62 or 68.

    Ironically, the Cleveland Clinic hints that a drink a day is good for the heart. I was talking to my cardiologist there and he said they down play the benefits of alcohol because most can't stop at a drink a day which leads to other medical issues with the liver etc. So, I try to stay within that guidline,and it's much easier as time heals the aching in my bones and in my soul.

    I'm sorry to hear about your son and his depression. My older brother suffered that, and so have I several times in my life. That's why I did not drink for so many years and why I would not drink after my daughter died. I learned that lesson with my first daughter when she died. In a way, her death, as well as being the one who found this boy, and brought him to shore, and later the funeral http://www.macombdaily.com/20070723/boy-9-dies-in-apparent-drowning-at-stony-creek
    Along with the death of my brother helped me to navigate the death of my other daughter.

    In short, I found out that depression and alcohol are not always good partners. My youngest son is 18 and all of this plus other deaths in his life has taken it's toll. He drinks and won't separate from his pot. It hurts me, but I understand, in part his why. So this is where prayer and openness comes in and I don't let my fears over take me, nor do I impose them on others. He is my only son, whom I love, so I need patience and wisdom.

    I am sorry for rambling, and I hope you know your not alone with your burdons and something I've said brings you some sort of comfort. And with that, I'll leave you with this.

    Scripture says that we are to pray for the burdens of others. But when it is your child, and if we can be honest, we pray that they get their heads out of their butts, stop the stupidness and as parents, our pain from watching them make mistake after mistake would come to an end.

    That's kinda selfish, and we miss the opportunity to see our kids as individuals with issues we may have contributed to. This isn't blame. So, what I have learned is to pray for the burdens of my child, and when I did, I realized that when his burden is lifted, his behavior will follow and my burden will be lifted.

    The mission of Jesus is reconciliation... So should ours.

    God bless.
     
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