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I have been doing a Bible study now for about ten years, I know a long time huh, You may think, because It took me so long to lose weight that it's not really working... :shrug

The following is an selection from the beginning of my studies. I have decided since this is such a popular Christian site, and if it's okay with the forum admin (I guess I will find out soon enough if it's not) I will be posting the daily studies here. Or if you want a printable study (it's free!) you can go to http://www.flowersoverthewall.com So the following is sort of an intro into the study.
 
 Isaiah 49:23b (NIV) Those who hope in Me will not be disappointed."

It had been a rough week for me. It was somewhere around 1992, I hadn’t been saved long and I hated myself. I thought the reason I hated myself was because I was fat. All my self worth was in my looks.

I still had an old friends words ringing in my head. He had introduced me to a buddy of his, and his comment to his friend was “She used to be real good-looking until she had a kid and packed on forty pounds. Apparently he didn’t think that should hurt a fat girl.

My husband and I met when we both worked in a disco, and in that environment, around closing time the compliments come in fast and furious. The only positive reinforcement I got was from guys about my looks, and when they faded, as they always do, I was completely worthless in my own eyes. The sexual abuse I had endured as a child only reinforced this idea.

My highest level of education was seventh grade, so I knew I didn’t have a leg to stand on there. I had a relationship with the bully I talk about in the fist week of the studies, and she was constantly pointing out what she thought were my many faults. I was absolutely desperate to be thin again.

I had decided I was going to pray and have faith God would do a miracle and make me skinny –down to a certain weight in exactly one month . I was used to getting on the scale every day, sometimes three or four times in a day, but I decided for that month I would stay off them. I had a hard time waiting, so by the time the day came I was excited, I just knew God would do a miracle. I stepped up on the scale and… it hadn’t moved one millimeter. I was bitterly disappointed and furious with God. I was crying and praying, I opened the Bible and read,
Isaiah 49:23b (NIV) Those who hope in Me will not be disappointed."

I remember being enraged. I basically called God a liar. I was so mad.
I was disappointed, I felt He had let me down. I remember saying to Him, I did hope in you, This is your Word, you promise we won’t be disappointed, You let me down!

I was still mad at God when I went to church that Sunday, I couldn’t even get into the worship: usually the part I love the most. The Pastor started reading the text for the sermon that day, I was surprised because it was the same text I had been reading when I got so mad at God,
Isaiah 49:23b (NIV) Those who hope in Me will not be disappointed."

I was shocked when, in that church with over five-hundred people listening, the pastor said something along the lines of “somebody sitting here today, read that scripture this last week and was mad at God. It is not acceptable to talk to God like that, you need to respect Him, but, still, He wants you to know, He will answer your prayer and you will not be disappointed, but, He will fulfill the promise in His time. Then he went on with his sermon, It was about trials and the blessings that come out of the trials.

The pastor related a incident in his life. He said he used to love to look at the fields out his back window, He loved to sit at his kitchen table and watch the wind make the stalks sway. So he was particularly disappointed when a contractor started building a subdivision right behind his house, where lovely swaying grass once grew, was now being torn up, the ground full of pockmarks where foundations for new houses were being dug. He tried to give it to God, but the more he thought about it the angrier he became.

He knew it was silly to be so upset about an earthly thing, but he just couldn’t help it. He had enjoyed his view so much. He finally started becoming used to the idea, when his new neighbor moved in, he thought maybe they could become friends.

Imagine his disappointment when the neighbor started building an ugly, Grey, ten foot, cinder-block wall. He built his wall so tall, my pastor could barley see the roof of this neighbors house. The pastor was ashamed to admit it, but he felt bitter against his neighbor every time he looked at the wall.

But something started to happen over time, little flowers started peeking up over the wall, and then more flowers of different types and colors started to spill over. Slowly but surely the ugly wall became a mass of beautiful flowers. He said the effect was breathtaking and priceless. It was the focal point of his whole yard, and was so much better then the wheat grass he had been so enamored with. He felt grateful to his neighbor for this wonderful gift.

He said sometimes God works like that, He may not take the problems away immediately, but Like flowers over an ugly wall our problems can bloom and grow and fill us with joy. At that time even though I knew God was talking to me, that sermon didn’t hit home. I thought Okay now I will be healed of my eating addiction because God spoke directly to me… but no I was still as addicted as ever.

Many years later when God did heal me, I recalled the sermon and gratitude overwhelmed me for the trial of being overweight. The flowers I had enjoyed thorough the years of searching for an answer to my problem have filled my life with beauty, I am so grateful that God gave me the gift of being overweight. My weight problem brought me unimaginable joy, it brought me to my knees, It made me seek God, It made me see the beauty is my soul, the eternal part of me. That is why outer beauty is so important to the world because Satan makes the least of us the most important part.

So here it is, I offer it to you, just as it is, seventh grade grammar problems and all. I would have been way to embarrassed a few years ago to present such a deformed offering, but now I know God will use it, because in my weakness He is strong.

2 Corinthians 12:9 And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.†Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

Scripture taken from the New King James Version unless otherwise noted. Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson, Inc. Used by permission. All rights reserved."
 
God Is Not Mad At You

“UNCLEAN, UNCLEANâ€Â, is what the lepers of Jesus’ time had to shout when they walked through the streets, “UNCLEAN!†they were the outcast of society. Everywhere they went, they were shunned and mocked. People looked at them in disgust, thankful it wasn’t them.

We, the overweight people in our society, are the lepers of our day, we don’t have to yell out unclean, our bodies do that for us. We are shunned and avoided. We are the repulsive joke in shows such as Good Luck Chuck (I didn’t see it, just the previews made me sick).

I saw a news story the other day that illustrated one of the many ways we are treated and it broke my heart. A Rapper was in concert, and he said “ all the beautiful ladies in this audience, get up on the stage and dance with me, so girls started dancing up on the stage. The rapper started to laugh, and said “look ladies, if you weigh 200 pounds get off my stage.

It was appalling to see the beautiful young smiles being wiped off their faces as the girls tried as quickly as possible to get off stage. They had done such a brave thing in getting up there. They gambled on the risky prospect of human kindness and lost. Any self respect they might have desperately gained up to that point was shattered, and I know the pain they suffered, you probably do too. We suffer with them, knowing what the world thinks of us, as gross fools with no feelings.

Just as it felt hopeless for the lepers in Jesus’ time. We feel doomed to failure, we have tried, and hoped, and tried and hoped, maybe this one will work, maybe this will be the one. It feels like this can’t be our fault, we have tried so hard.

I understand how bad you want to be healthy and slim, I know because the desire to be thin consumed me. I was so humiliated about my weight, I hated to leave the house. I dreaded social situations, I thought my husband was ashamed of me. No matter how hard I tried, I couldn’t lose the weight. Just like you, I felt hopeless.

Believe me when I tell you, you are strong, in fact, this diet will show you the more will power you have used, and the harder you have tried to lose weight, the heaver you will be, because dieting creates two obsessions, one, you become fixated on food and two, you become fixated on your weight.

You, yes you! can be the person you want to be, that God made you to be, because it’s not about changing the food you eat, It’s about understanding and fixing the reasons you overeat. It’s about changing your wrong thinking into right thinking.

You have a problem with your weight because you eat more than your body uses, and in truth the answer is, stop eating more than your body needs. Don’t you wish it was that simple?
Diets try to convince us that we need to change the food we eat. They over simplify, and, over complicate the whole process. Wouldn’t it be easy if we could all just decide which diet was best for us, then do it? If it were that clear-cut, obesity wouldn’t be the second highest preventable cause of death in America. I knew all that but I couldn’t help myself from overeating. I needed to find the reason I was overeating and why I couldn’t stop, that’s why I started to write this study. I was desperate, I always felt like I was in trouble with God, but writing this study I have come to know the character of our loving father and thorough studying His word, I found God wasn’t mad at me at all.

In essence, the definition of sin as an act that hurts you or someone else, Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.†(notice the prerequisite for loving your neighbor is, you to love yourself).

Before I knew Him, I thought God was up in heaven somewhere saying “FOLLOW THESE RULES BECAUSE I SAID SO, AND I -AM –THE- BOSS. God has a plan for your life, and that plan includes you being joyful and successful, He understands our weaknesses, read Hebrews 4:15,16 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. 16 Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need.

God says gluttony is a sin for good reason, It’s a serious health condition that can lead to early death. If a person is twenty percent heavier than their ideal weight, they are considered obese (determined by standard medical and insurance data). For example, the normal weight for woman who is 5;7", is 143 pounds, but they are considered obese if they weigh 189 pounds or above http://www.nhlbisupport.com/bmi/

There are a so many medical problems associated with being overweight, including high blood pressure, heart problems, diabetes, sleep apnea, depression, and arthritis. The heart of an obese person has to work harder causing congestive heart failure. Cardiovascular problems are common among obese people. High blood pressure can lead to the development of heart disease, kidney failure, and stroke. God designed our bodies to digest only so much food. Overeating puts too much sugar and fat in our system and our bodies can’t handle it, increasing the risk of developing type II diabetes.

My husband and I participated in a medical study at a University on how marriage affected blood pressure. They sent us to a lab for blood work, the lab was also conducting a five-year study on the morbidly obese. I had been on a diet and was almost at my goal weight (naturally, I gained it all back and more). The technician who was taking our health histories, said, “How refreshing, I’m used to patients having so many health issues because of their weight†she told me how much they suffer. It broke my heart, because I could still remember how much it hurt to be overweight. How trapped and desperate I felt in my body. My ribs hurt my knees and feet hurt. I was so tired and I hated myself, I knew the world thought I was just lazy and stupid. I wanted to defend myself to everyone “I am trying to lose weight, the person inside here isn’t the person you see out there, I’m trapped. I felt like I wasn’t considered valuable, I was trivial, and had to be put up with. The goodness of the world was reserved for thin people, and the way most people treated me intensified my feelings, I felt people either dismissed me or patronized me.

There were times I tried to dress up my fat and say I didn’t care, and there were times I didn’t care, and I would wear an old holy sweat shirt and comfy bleach stained sweats everywhere. I hated how I looked, and felt, every moment of every single day.

God doesn’t see you that way, He sees the value of your eternal soul. You are important to God and He doesn’t want to see you live like this. it doesn’t make Him less of a God if you sin. If God didn’t love you, your pain wouldn’t hurt Him in the slightest. It’s the verity of your suffering He labels as sin, God doesn’t condemn you He loves you.

Being overweight is not a sickness or an inherited problem, it is the result of eating more than your body needs. You may say you have a slow metabolism, and it could be true, but it isn’t your get out of jail free card, it isn’t an excuse to eat more, it means your body doesn’t need as much food to maintain it.

There are legitimate health reason where a person may eat very little and still be overweight, but it is very rare, and you would defenetly know you had this condition, as it usually comes with other genetic defects.

I know the excuses from the medical world make us feel justified, but it doesn’t help our problem. If you think about it, and are honest with yourself those excuses dash all hope of ever being thin, healthy, and vibrant.

You are probably saying to yourself “I don’t need something else to make me feel guilty, I already feel Hopelessâ€Â, but I am here to declare to you that there is hope! You are going to tap into the power of the almighty God who created heaven and earth. The good news is because gluttony is a sin and not a defect, you have control of weather or not you participate in the sin. This Bible Study will help you understand the difference and apply the principles from the Bible to recognize and overcome Satan’s deception.

When I started writing this Bible Study I was well on my way to becoming another sad statistic. I weighed over two hundred pounds, had high blood pressure and cholesterol. Food was the first thing I thought of when I woke up in the morning and the last thing I thought of when I went to sleep. I desired it beyond reason. The yearning to chew was irresistible and I couldn’t control it, I didn’t want to. The more I ate the more I needed. My desire for food was voracious and no matter how much I ate, the empty longing was never satisfied.

Then one day my beautiful teenage foster daughter Mylissa, came home upset, with tears streaming down her sweet face she told me how hurt and humiliated she was, because a group of teenage boys drove by and yelled something about her being overweight. This beautiful sweet young girl, who had overcome so much in her life, was so wounded by these foolish boys, who had no idea of who she was as a person. I could feel her hurt and I wanted so much to help her.
I found a book on using the Bible as a diet guide. We started to read it, and even though I found the diet to be quite sensible, I quickly realized the religious part of it was based on works. I found myself trying to explain why so much of it wasn’t Biblical and we finally gave up. I thought, Somebody needs to write a real born again spirit filled Diet Bible study. I decided to write one for me and Mylissa

I pray it will help you to find the truth about the emptiness we try so desperately to fill.
For a free printable study go to http://www.flowersoverthewall.com
 
God has really spoken to me recently and a big part of that was this thread and then that bible study.

Just the simple truth about examining my life and what I was putting first. I wanted to be thin first and kept praying "God bless this diet".. God do "x".

I wasn't putting God first in a practical way in my life but really was tacking Him on to things, even though in my head I thought God was first in my life - He wasn't.

Just that simple change has turned things upside for me in a great way the past few weeks. :biggrin

Flowers over the wall isn't a diet!

I started out thinking that way but quickly realised it wasn't -
It's a challenge for Christians as to where their priorities lie, challenge what our thinking has been. Just wanting to encourage everyone to put God first.

I don't think it is just for people with food problems but helpful to all, especially to people who substitute anything for comfort instead of going to the Holy Spirit.

Kelli - you will never know what an answer to prayer you have been for me and how God has blessed me through you. I will seek you out in heaven, when we both get there, to tell you that and look forward to meeting you there, if I don't see you before.
 
Being a better than average baker and cook, I've always loved doing both--until I developed a number of health problems, including diabetes. Now I'm having to learn how to cook and bake (especially bake) all over again with as little fat, sugar and salt as possible. I'm collecting sugar free recipes, and I substitute Splenda for the sugar. I have to use unsweetened cocoa with Splenda when I want something chocolate. Nothing tastes the same without sugar, but my brownies come out pretty good if not perfect using Splenda. I've had to give up on chocolate cake, though, since they don't taste right with Splenda.

Keeping my weight down has always been a problem--especially with two obese parents. At only 5'8", my weight should be no more than 160 lbs. The last time I was that low was 40 years ago. :crazy
 
Hey Jon-Marc,
It's nice to see you here, I know I have talked to you a bit on the other forum, "the Revolution". Health problems are so difficult. You hinted on the revolution that you had some health problems, I was afraid to ask. So it's diabetes, It sounds like you are making the best of a very hard situation.

It's funny, but I have heard if you put prunes in chocolate cake it can take the place of sugar. You have probably already tried that.

I will be praying God uses your diabetes and other health issues for His glory. I never thought I would thank God for being overweight, but it has turned out to be one of my most favorite blessings!

Of course being overweight isn't as hard to take as being sick (being sick hurts!) but God must know you are strong enough.

Kelli
 
We have a tendency to rely on the so-called dieting experts, and God is the last place we go for diet advice. We pray and ask God for help in following the diet of the week, but why? if you think about it, God is the one who formed our bodies, and spoke the world into existence. Don’t you think it’s time we discover what the only true authority has to say about it?

Read Hebrews 13:8-9 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. 9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.
Answer the following questions:
• Who is the same yesterday, today, and always?
• Do you think if the four food groups were as important as the world’s experts say? God would have left them out of the Bible?
• What do you think established by grace means?
The dictionary defines establish as 1: to institute permanently, 2: to put upon a firm basis.
Grace is defined as 1: unmerited help given to people by God (as in overcoming temptation) 2: freedom from sin by divine Grace.

Think of all the diets you can remember being on. Do you remember each of these diets and their premise? Was it a counting calories, food exchanges, eating more fat, eating less fat, eating more carbohydrates or eating less? Was it eating a little or eating a lot? Or eating only certain foods at certain times of the day? Drinking a lot of water with your food, or don’t drink water with your food, eat all protein. No! That will make you sick and you could die, but he was a doctor!?

It’s exhausting, each of these experts claimed to have the truth and the only truth. Most of them claiming the reason all the others had failed was because you were not counting calories or you needed food exchanges or you needed to eat more carbohydrates, or you’re eating too many carbohydrates and not enough fat, and so on and so on…

Read the previous scripture again: Hebrews 13:8-9 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. 9 Do not be carried about with various and strange doctrines. For it is good that the heart be established by grace, not with foods which have not profited those who have been occupied with them.

Doctrine simply means something that is taught. When you think about your dieting history, does it seem as if you were being carried away by strange doctrines?

Most of the worlds diets are focused on food, This creates a strong love and desire for it because it’s the focal point. The Bible says, we do not profit by being occupied with foods, but it’s good for the heart to be established by grace. We need to be established by grace by focusing on God and His love and not what we can and cannot eat.

We have been working on the wrong problem when we diet, because we are trying to change the food we normally eat. We go to a whole lot of trouble, making ourselves different meals than our families, weighing it and counting the calories, etc. The whole time we are focusing on the food. We need to recognize the real problem. The food can’t be responsible for your weight. We don’t need to change the food we eat, its our hearts that need to change.

Let’s say you do lose weight on one of these methods, you will still have the anxiety you have always had about your weight, but instead of worrying about being overweight you will be anxious about gaining it back. Your thoughts will still be obsessed with food, fat, calories, etc. Being thin will not make you happy, you will still yearn for and desire food.

Start concentrating on your relationship with God and not the substance of the food. Pray and ask God to help you become established by grace, and to help you to focus on Him, by the truth of His word.

God will deliver you from the bondage of food, It’s up to you how long it takes, it can take four months, or forty years. You can wander in the desert with half a commitment, or you choose today to go straight to the promised land, by faith.

Colossians 2:8-10 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. 9For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; 10 and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power.
Do you think God is able to help you lose weight?
Why do you feel that way?
READ: Matthew. 7:7-12
 
The Diet

Note: This is the diet that works best for me. If you have another one and it doesn't take too much thought you could also use that one. This study is more about why we overeat than what we eat.


Start now:

Romans 7:4-25
For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin. 15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice; but what I hate, that I do. 16 If, then, I do what I will not to do, I agree with the law that it is good. 17 But now, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me. 18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. 19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. 20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
21 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. 22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 I thank Godâ€â€through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.


Eat what you want:
The previous scriptures talk about how we are weak in our flesh, and how we try to make rules and follow them. We have diet and health rules, that seem to change daily. With this diet there are no rules, you can eat anything you want, if you want a candy bar for breakfast eat it! If you want another for lunch go ahead, if one for dinner, yes, go for it! I guarantee you won’t want another one for your next meal. This diet takes the attention off the food and places it on to God. The more you focus on food the more you want it, it becomes an obsession.

God formed our bodies to know what they need. Because God created our taste buds, He knows our likes and dislikes, so don’t be afraid to have your favorites. Let the system God made for you take over. When I first started this program, I went crazy and had many small bites of everything I had denied myself for so long because I was so excited about my new-found freedom . You can eat anything you want! Jesus declared all foods clean!

READ: Mark 7: 18 –23 18 So He said to them, “Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, 19 because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?†20And He said, “What comes out of a man, that defiles a man. 21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, 22 thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness. 23 All these evil things come from within and defile a man.â€Â

See, Jesus said in the above scripture, don’t focus on the food, focus on your spiritual health.

Slow down:
It takes approximately twenty minutes for your brain to sense you are satisfied and your blood sugars replenished. If you eat slower, you will be able to recognize Gods built it cues. The cues are easy to recognize if you are paying attention and know what to look for. You begin to notice the food doesn’t tastes as good, and you start feeling satisfied, when you say to yourself, I think I am getting satisfied, STOP EATING. That is God’s prompting. It’s at this point you have satisfied your body’s need for fuel, it’s time to stop eating, now! Don’t worry, you will be hungry again in three to four hours. It used to be when I would begin to feel this way, I’d start eating faster so I could be sure to get it all stuffed in before I got to full, a habit that was a factor in maintaining my plump figure.

Don’t worry if you accidentally eat more than you need, God knows your heart. He understands your weakness and loves you. When I would catch my toddlers misbehaving, I would give them to the count of three to stop. I would start counting “one†and usually they would begin to pull away from the misdeed and turn towards me. I would never have punished my child if they had already turned and started towards me accidentally fell and couldn’t make it by the count of three. God is so much more merciful than we are. He knows when we are trying to be obedient.

Categorize your Food:
You have probably always done this, you just haven’t realized it. You’ve most likely eaten the items you least like first, and saved the best for last. You will need to retrain yourself to do the exact opposite. You will eat the juicy, sweet, most succulent items first and save the dry things, you don’t like as much for last. You can’t tell when you’re going to get full and it won’t be as hard to stop if the food left on your plate is your least favorite. Have you ever tried to eat a donut without the frosting? It tastes like bad white bread. It’s no big deal to let it go.

You should even categorize foods within foods. I like to eat the crunchy salty crust off a fat French-fry first, and leave the soft mushy grainy stuff on my plate! I know this sounds kind of extreme, but, the point is, you should only eat what you like, don’t worry so much about wasting food. Have you ever watched a toddler eat? They haven’t learned the clean plate rule yet. They pick the food to pieces, eating only what they like. (don’t ever teach your kids “the clean plate†rule or your setting them up for a lifetime of weight issues).

The Bible says in Romans 14:20a Don’t destroy the work of God for the sake of food.
Read what God told an Old Testament king when he was worried about wasting money.
II Chronicles 25:5-9 Moreover Amaziah gathered Judah together and set over them captains of thousands and captains of hundreds, according to their fathers’ houses, throughout all Judah and Benjamin; and he numbered them from twenty years old and above, and found them to be three hundred thousand choice men, able to go to war, who could handle spear and shield. 6 He also hired one hundred thousand mighty men of valor from Israel for one hundred talents of silver. 7 But a man of God came to him, saying, “O king, do not let the army of Israel go with you, for the LORD is not with Israelâ€â€not with any of the children of Ephraim. 8 But if you go, be gone! Be strong in battle! Even so, God shall make you fall before the enemy; for God has power to help and to overthrow.â€Â
9 Then Amaziah said to the man of God, “But what shall we do about the hundred talents which I have given to the troops of Israel?†And the man of God answered, “The LORD is able to give you much more than this.â€Â


The food isn’t more valuable than your body. Look at what happened to the Israelites when they tried to save extra manna the manna turned to maggots!

Exodus 16:17-21 Then the children of Israel did so and gathered, some more, some less. 18So when they measured it by omers, he who gathered much had nothing left over, and he who gathered little had no lack. Every man had gathered according to each one's need. 19And Moses said, "Let no one leave any of it till morning.†20Notwithstanding they did not heed Moses. But some of them left part of it until morning, and it bred worms and stank. And Moses was angry with them. 21So they gathered it every morning, every man according to his need. And when the sun became hot, it melted.

If you want to eat desert first, go ahead. It’s ok to be excited about this newfound freedom. God designed your body to crave what it needs, that’s why you don’t like to eat leftovers three days in a row.

Trust God and soon you will learn how much food you should take, so you won’t waste as much. Don’t worry God doesn’t mind if you waste a little until you learn how much it takes to make you full. I know this because there are many instances in the Bible where God tells His children to destroy all the booty left after a battle. I am sure it seemed wasteful to them but was necessary to preserve the purity of Gods children. It’s the same with us. It’s more important we keep ourselves from the destruction of our bodies.

Beverages:
The only time you should drink, beverages with sugar in them is with your meal. Between meals, you should drink diet soda, black coffee, tea, or water. Feel free to have sugar in your coffee with breakfast just don’t drink it all day. It’s hard to remember to drink at least eight glasses of water a day, but it’s good for you. I have worked at boy scout camp for a number of summers, and you must stay hydrated. It is the difference in feeling lousy or feeling energized and good. I tend to mistake being thirsty or tired for being hungry. However donââ¬â„¢t overdo it, drinking too much water can be bad for you as well, do all things in moderation.
Trust God, The Bible lets us know, our bodies “are fearfully and wonderfully made,†don’t make it too hard, remember you are learning and God knows your heart.

Read Isaiah 55

Scripture to memorize this week
Isaiah 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts.
 
Kelli said:
The Diet
Beverages:
The only time you should drink, beverages with sugar in them is with your meal. Between meals, you should drink diet soda, black coffee, tea, or water. Feel free to have sugar in your coffee with breakfast just don’t drink it all day. .

I was convinced I had already written this post, but I must be going senile! :confused

I was wondering Kelli as your whole study is teaching against "strange doctrines" regarding food and to have freedom in it - why then with beverages you have "rules"?

I have coffee with splenda and if I want a sugary drink it would be between meals as I could savour it on my own, where if I had it with a meal it would be lost with all the food, I wouldn't appreciate it as much.

Was just wondering :)

Excellent study, the day with the spiritual armour talking about clothing ourselves in humility before we even try to put on our "armour" was biblical and so, true.

I have been going back over it again as I forget things and I have only finished week 3! So many truths.
when journaling my own quiet time and prayer requests, and answered prayers, I want to put some of the highlights in my own notes not just the written notes of the study :thumb
 
Hi Ginger!

Thank you so much for helping with the study. I write things that are in my head and automatically think people will understand what I am talking about. I would sooooo appreciate it if you find anything else like that while going through it if you would let me know. Also if you feel like God is telling you something I am missing, please let me know. And of course I will mention it as a quote from you. I find in reading your posts that you have a gift of wisdom and encouragement.

I see what you mean about me saying no rules and then I make a rule. :crazy The thing about the coffee and juice came about because, I watch those shows on TV about extremely obese people, and I noticed they drink tons, and tons, of sugary drinks and don't count them as food because it doesn't really do anything to your hunger and full cues, but it still will make you gain weight if you drink a lot. ( does that make sense??) How do you think I should say that you should limit those, or at least count them as a meal? hummm I will have to pray about it. Maybe I should say you should count it as food.... Oh well, I will pray.

Love, Kelli
 
Do You Want to Be Healed?

Do you want to be healed? It’s a simple question, and the one Jesus asked of almost every person He healed. So I am asking you to carefully consider this question, DO YOUâ€â€WANTâ€â€TOâ€â€BEâ€â€HEALED? Yes or No
I am assuming your answer is yes, or you wouldn't be reading this. To be healed you need to make the commitment right now, not the commitment to go on another diet, but to change the way you have been thinking for years.

I want to tell you a story that may help you understand why you need to make this commitment. It is a true story about a dear friend of mine. I love my friend but at a young age she started an unhealthy relationship with an abuser. This abuser was a bully and had no mercy, she would put her down at every turn. The bully would say “you are stupid you only have a seventh grade education, you’re a such a loser, you will never lose weight, you have tried dieting so many times and have never been successful. Your fine for two or three weeks, then you run out of gas, what makes you think this time is different�

She would make rude comments on the way my friend looked. She would say “you have huge pores in your nose and a big white, blubbery, pasty, stomach.†She would constantly tell her she was ugly, every single time she caught sight of her she would tell her she was repulsive. It was brutal, and constant, every time my friend had a success the bully would knock her down. Every time my friend was in a social situation, the bully would point out all her faults. She would tell the other people at the party that my friend was fat.

I think the bully in her own sick way was trying to protect my friend, because she would tell my friend “they won’t accept you if you don’t show them you know your not as good as they are, If I build them up by putting you down they might like you.†Then when my friend and the bully were alone she would berate her for all the stupid things she said at the party.

People who were close to my friend would try to tell her the bully was wrong, but my friend didn’t believe anything good about herself. She had listened to the bully to long. The bully drove her to the brink of suicide. She tried to kill herself three times, thank God she wasn’t successful.

Do you think my friend could ever be successful as long as she continued the relationship with the bully?
Why or why not ?
No matter how much self-esteem you have if you are constantly being told you are bad, you start to believe it.
What do you think happened to my friend in the end?

If you haven’t already guessed, I am my friend and I was also the bully. The way I used to talk to myself was horrifying. You can not succeed, let me say that again YOU ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT SUCCEED UNTIL YOU GET OUT OF THE HABIT OF VERBAL SELF ABUSE. You may as well quit now if you can’t make the commitment to break this habit. Would you talk to your child the way you talk to yourself? It’s time to stop this destructive habit. I can’t stress how important it is for you to bring this to an end.

Your probably thinking “I can’t stop, I have been doing it too long.†But if you try, God will bless it I promise. This is how you do it, you look at yourself in the mirror and if your alone say it out loud, if not, in your mind, “God made me beautiful, I am beautifully and wonderfully made, I am the temple of the Holy Spirit, my steps are ordered by God. God only sees the good in me. I am well able to fulfill the destiny God has planned for my life, look at how good I look, the best is yet to come, look at me, you good looking thing you. God is pleased with me. I am a good friend, I am a wonderful Christian because if not, God would not have chosen me. I try my hardest all the time. God is perfecting me every day. He is well able to give me all I can ask or imagine because He loves me. Everything that God allows in my life is goodâ€Â… I mean you need to go on and on.

Everyone has a conversation going on in their heads at all times. It is called your internal dialog. Your subconscious mind records everything that is said to you or you say to yourself, and takes everything you say literally, recording it for later use. If you take no other thing away from this study take this truth. It is so important.

What are some of the things you say to yourself that are not productive?

Okay, I hope you got that out of your system, because that is the last time you will ever, ever, ever, say those things to yourself.

It’s dark and sad and no place for a Christian, It’s not arrogant to talk to yourself in a nice way.

Is it a sin to verbally abuse your child?

is it a sin to verbally abuse your spouse?

You know it’s a sin and a crime to verbally abuse another person. What makes you think God says it’s OK to abuse yourself? You listen to your internal dialog more than you listen to anybody else. You take yourself everywhere you go. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit.

I’m not talking about being egotistical, and I’m not talking to the person who thinks they are better than others, that is a whole other issue, and I am not telling you, you are better than others I am telling you, you are just as wonderful, special and blessed as anyone.

Read I Corinthians 3:17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

Some of the definitions of Defile is: To profane or sully, to demean the pureness or excellence of.

What are you doing to the temple God gave you when you abuse yourself?

I was demeaning the beautiful gift God made for me with His own hands. I was so ungrateful. Finish the blanks from the scripture above

I Corinthians 3:17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, _________________________ For the temple of God is holy, which temple ____________________.

We are not immune to Gods discipline, no wonder my body was falling apart, I was treating it with such disdain Look through all the red text in your New Testament, did Jesus ever, ever put Himself down?

You need to be a caregiver to your self, not a bully. You need to make the commitment to changing the way you talk to yourself, and how you treat yourself. Nurture yourself, look at yourself the way God looks at you. Nurture yourself with Gods words of love to you.

Read Song of Solomon 2:8-14 The voice of my beloved! Behold, he comes leaping upon the mountains, Skipping upon the hills.       
9 My beloved is like a gazelle or a young stag. Behold, he stands behind our wall; He is looking through the windows, Gazing through the lattice.       
10 My beloved spoke, and said to me:
 “ Rise up, my love, my fair one, And come away.       
11 For lo, the winter is past, The rain is over and gone.       
12 The flowers appear on the earth; The time of singing has come,       
And the voice of the turtledove Is heard in our land.       
13 The fig tree puts forth her green figs, And the vines with the tender grapes Give a good smell. Rise up, my love, my fair one, And come away!       
14 “ O my dove, in the clefts of the rock, In the secret places of the cliff, Let me see your face, Let me hear your voice; For your voice is sweet,  And your face is lovely.â€Â


When you get a chance, read the Song of Solomon, It is a beautiful love song to us from God, it illustrates how God sees us, and how much He loves us, His bride. I was saved for thirty years before I could read this book, because I just couldn’t see myself the way God sees me.

You may feel like you’re lying to yourself, but your not, you’re telling yourself the truth. Pray that God will show you the truth. I admit it was hard to look at myself in the mirror at first. It was hard to even look at myself in the eyes, I felt humiliated and weird. For so long I believed I was inferior, it was the place I fit into the world, it was my identity. I didn’t know it at the time, but it was how I manipulated people into liking me. It was a very unhappy place to be.

Just try it, you will be so surprised at how fast this habit goes away. At first it is uncomfortable, but after you are finished encouraging yourself in the mirror you feel wonderful, happy, and light, you will be amazed. It only took two or three days for me to stop putting myself down.

I had always known it was bad to put myself down, I was always going to stop the self abuse, but I didn’t know how to do it. I always failed because I didn’t realize how destructive it was, but now I understand, you can not succeed if you don’t stop self abusing and start encouraging.

Don’t be resistant to the mirror exercise, commit yourself to the healing.

Read Psalm 8
 
:shocked Ginger! I just went to another post and realized you are on week four of the Bible study, I guess I better hurry and get the last five weeks edited and posted. How are you doing? are you losing weight? I finally got on my scale, it broke when we move and the little glass thing with the red line on it broke off so I think I am between 170 and 175! and I am in a size 14! I am so excited because I was 210 and wearing a tight 22. Thank you Jesus! It's so cool because I feel like God told me that's why I had to wait so long for my weight loss because people would ask me how I was doing it, and I had to have the study finished. I have only had two people at work that noticed I lost weight... :grumpy Sometimes I think people are afraid you will be insulted if they ask you if you have lost weight. I want them to ask NOW!

Oh see here I go again jumping out in front of God. IT'S IN HIS TIME KELLI!!!! :help

I will get a few more weeks posted in the study (I have to edit them first and you know how bad I am at that!) but I will have them up in the next couple of weeks. There are thirteen weeks total. I am still writing the last two weeks of the study. I have the main idea of all the days done, I just have to go back and fill in bits, and it takes me about one week to finish filling in the bits for one day. (I don't think that made sense???)

Love,
Kelli
 
Hi Kelli, nice to meet you. :) I just joined this forum yesterday and it does seem like a very loving place. Some forums can really test you!

I wanted you to know that I will be referring your website to my daughter. I think it may just be what she needs. :pray
 
Hi Jojo, Welcome! It's so nice to meet you too! This is a nice friendly place to meet other Christians. Woohoo I am so glad you are going to refer your daughter to Flowers Over the Wall. It is brand new and I have no grammar skills, but if she can get past that, God has really showed me things about dieting, that I didn't even know where in the Bible!

Well glad to have you on board Jojo, and if you are so inclined, tell us a little about yourself! :wave

Love, Kelli
 
Kelli said:
Hi Ginger!

Thank you so much for helping with the study. I write things that are in my head and automatically think people will understand what I am talking about. I would sooooo appreciate it if you find anything else like that while going through it if you would let me know. Also if you feel like God is telling you something I am missing, please let me know. And of course I will mention it as a quote from you. I find in reading your posts that you have a gift of wisdom and encouragement.

I see what you mean about me saying no rules and then I make a rule. :crazy The thing about the coffee and juice came about because, I watch those shows on TV about extremely obese people, and I noticed they drink tons, and tons, of sugary drinks and don't count them as food because it doesn't really do anything to your hunger and full cues, but it still will make you gain weight if you drink a lot. ( does that make sense??) How do you think I should say that you should limit those, or at least count them as a meal? hummm I will have to pray about it. Maybe I should say you should count it as food.... Oh well, I will pray.

Love, Kelli

Kelli you have been led by The Holy Spirit in this study!

I was just interested in your thinking behind something. If you feel it's right to be there, and how you phrased it - then don't change it!, especially on my account - how arrogant that would be of me! :oops

I understand your thinking now. It's just that you don't talk anywhere else about diet "hints" (except for resisting a second slice of cheesecake) - but it makes sense.

Maybe if you want to put hints like that in you could have it either in a separate section. But clearly stating that there are no rules, but just things that helped you - basic things - if you changed to splenda from sugar - what works and doesn't work. So if people want to read a seperate section they can. it's up to them.

But I don't want to encourage you to go down that road as your study has been so refreshing that it isn't about food when you do your daily study - to me you deliberately left out food so the focus is on God.

So it's up to you, I gave you both sides - So just do what you have been doing - praying and relying on God to what to put in - you have done great so far doing that!

I don't want to discourage you by my last post! was just interested - keep up the good work :thumb
 
Kelli said:
:shocked Ginger! I just went to another post and realized you are on week four of the Bible study, I guess I better hurry and get the last five weeks edited and posted. How are you doing? are you losing weight? I finally got on my scale, it broke when we move and the little glass thing with the red line on it broke off so I think I am between 170 and 175! and I am in a size 14! I am so excited because I was 210 and wearing a tight 22. Thank you Jesus! It's so cool because I feel like God told me that's why I had to wait so long for my weight loss because people would ask me how I was doing it, and I had to have the study finished. I have only had two people at work that noticed I lost weight... :grumpy Sometimes I think people are afraid you will be insulted if they ask you if you have lost weight. I want them to ask NOW!

Oh see here I go again jumping out in front of God. IT'S IN HIS TIME KELLI!!!! :help

I will get a few more weeks posted in the study (I have to edit them first and you know how bad I am at that!) but I will have them up in the next couple of weeks. There are thirteen weeks total. I am still writing the last two weeks of the study. I have the main idea of all the days done, I just have to go back and fill in bits, and it takes me about one week to finish filling in the bits for one day. (I don't think that made sense???)

Love,
Kelli

I am loosing weight thanks!

But I was in danger of starting thinking it was a diet as I started hoping on the scales :nono You are so right in what you said - we shouldn't weigh ourselves. I have no idea how you dropped so fast, so quickly!?
After about a month (?) it may be about 10 pounds. And that is with having a burger if I want it when I go out (as long as it is not for comfort!)

All of that weight loss so far, has purely been from - not comfort eating, learning when I am full (praying before you eat to ask God to tell you when to stop eating really helps!)

A lot of my recipes are with cream/cheese etc, and not good for you. So I am slowly trying to build up a recipe folder of healthy eating recipes. I have a couple of good ones from "healthy eating" by ellie - her white chilli, and meatballs are excellent. As I am getting to the stage I think, that I have to change my recipes - I can't cook with high fat ingredients every day and expect to loose weight!

Before when I was on weight watchers, or diet to your door, if I "failed" and ate above my points allocation - I just thought 'well I blew it, I might as well really eat what I want till next week'!
As now, there isn't a diet - just moderation, there is no feeling like that anymore - there is freedom!

I have just printed all of your study out - so don't sweat it! :lol But thanks for your update, I will also look online and mark what updates you have done on my notes.

And if anything I am saying is wrong or you have tips etc for me - always feel free to give me a kick to my backside (it so has worked reading your study so far :lol :thumb )

And the people must be blind if you have dropped 40 pounds and haven't noticed - maybe they feel it's un PC to mention weight? :confused

But well done :clap
 
JoJo said:
Hi Kelli, nice to meet you. :) I just joined this forum yesterday and it does seem like a very loving place. Some forums can really test you!

I wanted you to know that I will be referring your website to my daughter. I think it may just be what she needs. :pray

Hi JOJO and welcome :wave

I am so with you re forums :verysad

If your daughter gets on to that website, tell her to come here, just to this thread, and we can encourage each other :)
 
Hi Ginger!

I never thought you were being arrogant, I really appreciate feed back! I don't think God likes it when a ministry is just done by one person. I think He likes us to collaborate, work together, put our experiences to work. Everyone has a different view point and more than one veiw makes it better.

It's kind of hard of hard to communicate on a forum, because you can't hear voice inflection or pick up the small ques you do with normal conversation. I hope you understand that you have been nothing but help to me. I don't think I would have been as bold with telling others on this forum about Flowers Over the Wall, if it had not been for you.

Besides Mylissa, you are the first person I have ever really showed the study to, I mean it's on the internet, and I told my niece Penny about it, but she doesn't have a problem with her weight. What I am trying to say is... I love your wisdom and your input and very valuable to me.

Wow! I guess I really have lost it fast. It doesn't seem like it because I have been writing the study for almost ten years! But God held me back from losing for so long so I could write all my thoughts and feelings, but now that I am almost finished writing it I am losing it FAST!!! How cool is that! He is so good! I love this ministry He has given me.

Reading back through your post, I think I misunderstood your question about the beverages. I think it is perfectly fine to drink sugar free drinks between meals. See I guess I just assumed I had written that part, but I must have left it out.

Also when you were talking about limiting cream cheese and other things you consider to be unhealthy, I think your limiting them will cause you to be more obsessed with them.

Romans 7:5,6 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

You can't change the food you eat, you have to change that desire and lust to eat more than your body needs. You change those desires by running to God.

Just limit how much of it you eat. Now that God has delivered me and I have started to lose weight, I literally get full after about eighteen or so bites of food with no desire at all to eat more, actually, I take that back, there are times when I am occasionally tempted again, but It seems that I run to God quicker than I used to, and it doesn't happen as often.

Well I have rambled enough, I will talk to you later! :wave
 
Kelli,

I think you are a beautiful writer and your grammar is okay with me! Your website says you have a 7th grade education?? You must have had a great 7th grade English teacher! I love the story of the flowers over the wall. Keep up the good work and God bless you and your ministry. :)


Thank you for the welcome, Ginger! I posted a little about myself in the New Members thread. :)
 
Kelli said:
Hi Ginger!

I never thought you were being arrogant, I really appreciate feed back! I don't think God likes it when a ministry is just done by one person. I think He likes us to collaborate, work together, put our experiences to work. Everyone has a different view point and more than one veiw makes it better.

It's kind of hard of hard to communicate on a forum, because you can't hear voice inflection or pick up the small ques you do with normal conversation. I hope you understand that you have been nothing but help to me. I don't think I would have been as bold with telling others on this forum about Flowers Over the Wall, if it had not been for you.

Besides Mylissa, you are the first person I have ever really showed the study to, I mean it's on the internet, and I told my niece Penny about it, but she doesn't have a problem with her weight. What I am trying to say is... I love your wisdom and your input and very valuable to me.

Wow! I guess I really have lost it fast. It doesn't seem like it because I have been writing the study for almost ten years! But God held me back from losing for so long so I could write all my thoughts and feelings, but now that I am almost finished writing it I am losing it FAST!!! How cool is that! He is so good! I love this ministry He has given me.

Reading back through your post, I think I misunderstood your question about the beverages. I think it is perfectly fine to drink sugar free drinks between meals. See I guess I just assumed I had written that part, but I must have left it out.

Also when you were talking about limiting cream cheese and other things you consider to be unhealthy, I think your limiting them will cause you to be more obsessed with them.

Romans 7:5,6 For when we were in the flesh, the sinful passions which were aroused by the law were at work in our members to bear fruit to death. 6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.

You can't change the food you eat, you have to change that desire and lust to eat more than your body needs. You change those desires by running to God.

Just limit how much of it you eat. Now that God has delivered me and I have started to lose weight, I literally get full after about eighteen or so bites of food with no desire at all to eat more, actually, I take that back, there are times when I am occasionally tempted again, but It seems that I run to God quicker than I used to, and it doesn't happen as often.

Well I have rambled enough, I will talk to you later! :wave

Kelli,

Oh I knew you were genuinely being nice to me and asking me what I thought - I knew you never thought for one moment I was being arrogant. You are so right it is so hard on a forum, when you don't know someone, how they are!

It is just me that would think it was arrogant in a forum setting to say 100% what you should do. I was just trying to convey it is your ministry and so clearly of the Lord, so if I don't feel led to say something - then I shouldn't (believe me, sometimes daily I am trying to learn this in my life!)

I understand completely where you are coming from and if I can help in any way, or you wish to ask me something, I will try and help and think about something. But you are doing so well on your own with the Lord - I wouldn't want to interfere and lead you a wrong way.

It is funny when I read your previous post about you being impatient with the Lord and wanting to loose weight faster but knowing there was a reason you hadn't lost all the weight for so long - it struck a cord with me.
I know there are things for me to learn while loosing the weight and I have to be open to it, and not just wish it all away so quickly - if I think of it like a trial in which I know there are things God wants me to learn when I go through hardships - it's just the same!

Re drinks - I do drink coffee with sweetener during the day. But very occasionally I enjoy 'sugar drinks' not because of the sugar but that I like them. Years ago I switched to diet drinks.

But you can get this ginger beer online (and you can't get it diet, this brand) which is very fiery and a drink which is blackcurrant cordial (Ribena) and it just is the best drink ever - mixed. I would never have this with a meal, as I wouldn't enjoy it completely, I could be drinking anything!
On it's own, mid a'noon as a treat, once in a blue moon, I could enjoy it completely. If I have calories I want to enjoy them on their own LOL! And I hadn't had it for months but then with your study and 'freedom' from self restrictions - I had one last week, and didn't feel guilty :thumb

I realise I wasn't that clear in my last post - a lot of my recipes would be full fat, full of cream sauces OR cheese or high calorie/high fat. I agree you shouldn't feel ever you are limiting yourself, but after trying some of the "low fat/calorie" recipe I really enjoyed them and if I can add more recipes that I enjoy to my original recipes then hopefully - it will balance it out, as I don't think "normal" people eat the type of recipes as I eat! Or try at least not look for more recipes that calls for a pint of cream in a sauce!

Also I realised the reason why I wanted to cook with cream in it or pastry (they are not called "comfort" foods for nothing.) Was that I was turning to that for my comfort and not to God. I didn't realise I was doing that, but my desire for those foods has dwindled since I started your study (I am aware it could start up) as I now turn to God for comfort not those foods!
 
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