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Fear vs Love

Can Love and fear fight? They are "feelings". Or are they not?

Maybe we should look into it?

Maybe it is God starting to rule?

http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/his-kingdom.68782/

Lets see:

We have the "bosses" and we have the "slaves". The bosses speak and the slaves jump.

And the "boss" spoke:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...s/?msg=12396.2

And the "slave" jump

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freethinkers3/messages/?msg=12396.162

He is the "boss" because the controls are in his hands.

A big responsibility. And in the hands of a human being.

And according to the situation in the world we need to accept.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...s/?msg=12396.9

And the "boss" acted on behalf of his new "helpless" "visitor".

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.161

And his "visitor" should be very happy with the "boss" on his side.

But God is not:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.190

God against me? For everything I have already suffered for His Name?

A bitter Medicine.

And you all thought God is with me?

Well me being His Wife will just have to accept it.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.225

God started fighting!

Against my newly acquired friend which stood up for me.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.232

And God keeps on and on and on.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.246

Well maybe He has a point.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.276

And:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.256

The "boss" thinks so too.

And the point is made and open for debate

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.289

And the "boss" is starting to ask questions:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.362

And he has some more.

Does Love exists?

Can Love really rule?

Will the World be a better place?

Fear vs Love.

Robertson vs God?

Fear vs Love on the Internet?

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Fear vs Love

Can Love and fear fight? They are "feelings". Or are they not?

Maybe we should look into it?

Lets see:

We have the "bosses" and we have the "slaves". The bosses speak and the slaves jump.

And the "boss" spoke:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...s/?msg=12396.2

He is the "boss" because the controls are in his hands.

A big responsibility. And in the hands of a human being.

And according to the situation in the world we need to accept.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...s/?msg=12396.9

And the "boss" acted on behalf of his new "helpless" "visitor".

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.161

And his "visitor" should be very happy with the "boss" on his side.

But God is not:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.190

God against me? For everything I have already suffered for His Name?

A bitter Medicine.

And you all thought God is with me?

Well me being His Wife will just have to accept it.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.225

God started fighting!

Against my newly acquired friend which stood up for me.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.232

And God keeps on and on and on.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.246

Well maybe He has a point.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.276

And:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.256

The "boss" thinks so too.

And the point is made and open for debate

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.289

And the "boss" is starting to ask questions:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.362

And he has some more.

Does Love exists?

Can Love really rule?

Will the World be a better place?

Fear vs Love.

Robertson vs God?

Fear vs Love on the Internet?
 
Fear vs Love

Can Love and fear fight? They are "feelings". Or are they not?

Maybe we should look into it?

Maybe it is God starting to rule?

http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/his-kingdom.68782/

Lets see:

We have the "bosses" and we have the "slaves". The bosses speak and the slaves jump.

And the "boss" spoke:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...s/?msg=12396.2

And the "slave" jump

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freethinkers3/messages/?msg=12396.162

He is the "boss" because the controls are in his hands.

A big responsibility. And in the hands of a human being.

And according to the situation in the world we need to accept.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...s/?msg=12396.9

And the "boss" acted on behalf of his new "helpless" "visitor".

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.161

And his "visitor" should be very happy with the "boss" on his side.

But God is not:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.190

God against me? For everything I have already suffered for His Name?

A bitter Medicine.

And you all thought God is with me?

Well me being His Wife will just have to accept it.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.225

God started fighting!

Against my newly acquired friend which stood up for me.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.232

And God keeps on and on and on.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.246

Well maybe He has a point.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.276

And:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.256

The "boss" thinks so too.

And the point is made and open for debate

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.289

And the "boss" is starting to ask questions:

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freet...?msg=12396.362

And he has some more.

Does Love exists?

Can Love really rule?

Will the World be a better place?

Don't know what I did with this thread. But I fixed it now. Maybe it will read a bit better.
 
Proverbs 16:18 Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
Proverbs 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

The difference is when we walk in our own will we are walking in the flesh and denying Christ in us. If we are walking in Gods will then we are walking in His Spirit that brings glory and honor to God in all we do for Him.
 
The difference is when we walk in our own will we are walking in the flesh and denying Christ in us. If we are walking in Gods will then we are walking in His Spirit that brings glory and honor to God in all we do for Him.

Ok. But how does this apply for ruling in this world? Like parents ruling in their households or hosts rule in their forums or managers rule in their worksituation. The links I supplied is about the ruling of a forum host. Rule by fear.
 
It's all the same thing. Ruling by instilling fear into others is outside the commands of Gods will to love one another. If one rules in love and compassion for others it brings about Gods favor in their lives. It's also the same with discipline as far as fear vs love. If you are ruling with fear it upsets the household, workplace and even forums and causes destruction. If you are ruling in love then there is compassion within any situation that arises.
 
The world of humans is fear-based.
Believers and perseveres in Christ are love-based.

Love leads to Truth.
Fear leads to deception (untruths).
 
Ok. I agree with you.

If you look at my links again do you agree that all forums are ruled by "fear"

http://forums.delphiforums.com/jesusplace/messages/?msg=24262.42
I have not been in all forums so I would not know. I would have to say no in CF as we are to read all the guidelines of the ToS and then agree to them before signing up. The moderators have a tough job in moderating all the forums and maybe some things are missed, but yet they do their best to stay on top of things. No fear in CF.
 
I have not been in all forums so I would not know. I would have to say no in CF as we are to read all the guidelines of the ToS and then agree to them before signing up. The moderators have a tough job in moderating all the forums and maybe some things are missed, but yet they do their best to stay on top of things. No fear in CF.

Ok that is my first link that I gave.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freethinkers3/messages/?msg=12396.2

The method the "non-believers" use.
And the fourth link it is judged.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freethinkers3/messages/?msg=12396.276

But you say the CF is different. How?
 
I've never seen any moderator instill fear into anyone as long as I have been here, but they do make it know to others when they forget the ToS (Terms of Service) within their postings.
 
Johan, I am sorry that you have experienced this on other sites, but even when I was corrected by a moderator they were very pleasant in their warning when anyone comes against the ToS and I appreciate that as they try their best, but never rule by fear.
 
Johan, I am sorry that you have experienced this on other sites, but even when I was corrected by a moderator they were very pleasant in their warning when anyone comes against the ToS and I appreciate that as they try their best, but never rule by fear.

It is not about how they apply it. It is about the basis.

Look at these two introductions and the difference.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freethinkers3/messages/?msg=12396.2

This first introduction in "freethinkers" is that of a non-believer. And it differs nothing from the introductions by believers.

Now this basis for authority revoke a certain reply.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/freethinkers3/messages/?msg=12396.9

Yet here is another introduction.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/king/messages/?msg=431.4

This time the basis for authority is totally different.

So what "reply" does this second introduction call for?
 
Johan, I have never been in delphiforums and know nothing of what happens within those forums. I really do not know what it is that you are searching for as it sounds like you are trying to say all moderators in any web forum rule with anger and this is not so. If you have a problem with any moderator you can private message them and talk to them about it. I will now leave the conversation as I do not know where you are going with all this. God bless
 
I actually read through a fair portion of the discussion you linked (not all 497 pages, I'll admit) and was actually fairly impressed at the level of some of the push-back you were experiencing from people like Darwinia. It is, after all, a forum for Believers, Un-Believers and Ex-Believers. I have no problem with those in the latter categories being as militant about their "un" and "ex" beliefs as I am in my beliefs. I likewise have no problem with any individual or group of individuals establishing and enforcing rules for their workplace or forum. It's their workplace or forum. Of course the enforcement is often heavy-handed, discriminatory and fear-based. If it's too much so, you move on (or are banned, as the case may be).

I'm having a difficult time understanding the point you are making. Human institutions, including those that are or purport to be Christian, are still infected by human nature. The Southern Baptist Convention (to cite one example with which I'm intimately familiar) is as flawed as any scandal-ridden secular company. (SBA officials in my state ran a fraudulent investment scheme that literally destroyed thousands of people and resulted in prison terms, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptist_Foundation_of_Arizona.)

It sounds very much like you are positing yourself and your attitudes on the Delphi forums, specifically your welcoming message on the thread you started, as examples of rules by "love." Often this type of talk comes across to non-Christians as phony, as superficial "niceness." You see it on these forums, you see it everywhere Christians and pretend Christians congregate. You sound sincere, and I don't doubt you are, but statements such as "Here God is in charge. He does not force 'good behavior," mean nothing in themselves. And they certainly mean nothing to someone who does not believe in God at all or doesn't recognize you as one of His spokesman.

As a bit of a cynic myself, I would say: Let that thread develop, let some unbelievers and ex-believers start slinging the mud, and we'll see how much "God is in charge." There is very little evidence that God is really "in charge" of anything in which humans are involved. God may influence some human institutions, but in charge? Not in my experience. Human nature (fear, greed and all the rest) are in charge. If we can manage to have God in charge of our individual lives even a reasonable percentage of the time, we're way ahead of most. But whether God is in charge must be demonstrated - it cannot merely be announced, and it is not shown by superficial "niceness."
 
Actually that forum is based on it from the beginning. As God told me to do it.
This is the intro approximately 14 years ago.

Life in THE 3 DAY

In these last days the Christian Life revolves around the APPEARANCE of God as Bridegroom, Father, Judge and Ruler. The Day of The King of kings and the Lord of lords is here. Mar 9:1 And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, There are some here of them that stand by, who shall in no wise taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God come with power. This means in practice that this forum is the example of the Ruling Authority of God. In no way will I control it. Here is no moderation = me in charge! God will do so Himself. Only the Truth/Jesus is in charge here and we are all brothers, sisters and children here. Eph 1:10 unto a dispensation of the fulness of the times, to sum up all things in Christ, the things in the heavens, and the things upon the earth; in him, I say,. . . Hos 6:2 After two days will he revive us: on the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live before HIM.
Please participate in any of the discussions listed on the left or post your own new

http://forums.delphiforums.com/king


You are right about the "mud". There were a lot. Unfortunately that can not be seen in this forum as everything disappear after a month for non-members and after three months for members. Part of their advertising to pull members to subscribe. Now after that many years the "mud" are gone. On Delphi which is a fairly large general Forums this has been experienced by other forum hosts that are still there. They were actually concerned for me when I started the forum because the know about the different people there that will bring their "mud".

Well needless to say. God came through for me. He anointed me to take on the fight.

Because of that experience I took on another kind of forum where there are other "mud slingers" as I had my abilities in the Spirit sharpened.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=318847
And it seems a hit. I already have 68 000 views.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=4

And you will see there that I have no fear to call them over to "my forum".

So I also wrote some teachings on this. As it is actually the Word that empowers us to do this.


http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/his-kingdom.68782/

http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/the-horse-and-the-donkey.68848/

http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/the-judge-is-jesus.70133/

These all to help you with your "fear" about a "nice" God.

When we as humans venture on this road we actually come into the experience of the Ruling Authority of God that also needs to be "feared" by those messing with it.

http://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/the-fear-of-god.71176/

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-fear-of-god.8023951/
 
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