food sacrificed to idols - in present time

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  1. DougK

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    What does, in today's time, food sacrificed to an idol refer to?

    For example, I see some technologies as being idols for people - Christians and non-Christians alike. So if technology can be an idol, what is the "food" and what is the act of "sacrificing" that food referring to?
     
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    This is one great and relevant question that I have not considered until just now. Up dating the thought could provoke people to consider their actions moving through life.

    Being an old Nerd I have watched many young adults make their Computer and the manufacturer their Gods. And I have known two that would go without (sacrifice) food to purchase the latest Mother Board/Processor Combo to speed their unit up. I believe would be covered by this scripture.
     
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    1 Cor 8: read the whole chapter to get the spirit of what is being laid out by Paul...
    I once was at eats with a brother who was picking the shrimp out of his rice. And I asked him what he was doing. "Well it is one of the things forbidden to eat in the Old testament, so I am picking them out........."?
    8 But food will not commend us to God: neither, if we eat not, are we the worse; nor, if we eat,are we the better.

    Hebrews 13: 9 Be not carried away by divers and strange teachings: for it is good that the heart be established by grace; not by meats, wherein they that occupied themselves were not profited.
    10 We have an altar, whereof they have no right to eat that serve the tabernacle.
     
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    th1b.taylor,

    So you're thinking maybe that for the example of technology, when someone spends too much time, energy, money, etc... on the vanities that may relate to technology, that could be meat sacrificed to an idol? That makes enough sense I think.
     
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    Baal worship in ancient times included the sacrifice of babies and children to the Baal idol itself. It was created so that the large hands could hold the sacrificial babes. Then mechanics operated by the faithful attendants would hoist those hands upward so as to make it look like they deposited the sacrifice into the open mouth full of flames that was Baal gods mouth.
    Today that in my view is recreated in abortion.

    Baal worship was what Hillary Clinton demonstrated when she has said she supports abortion under any circumstance or time. Even partial birth abortion.
     
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    It has to do with what a person is, is not eating. Not technology!
    And what does that have to do with this thread?
     
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    Edited drop the rudeness
    Don not reply to this post/edit in this thread.

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    (quote)What does, in today's time, food sacrificed to an idol refer to?(unquote)

    Well if you can tell me what all you have posted has to do with" FOOD ", then I'll listen, Your talking of idol worship, and yes there is that out there too, but this thread was talking of Food sacrificed as to an idol.

    And as a side note your mother teresa saying. The babe in the womb isn't killed, only the flesh is destroyed, the spirit of the babe is cared for by the Lord.
    " Their angels constantly behold His face!"
     
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    edited by reba,,,
    Those not deeply familiar with the narrative style in the Bible do not realize metaphor is a tool of communication. As is , as Jesus said, Parable. And other means of delivering the word.
    That meat in human diet is considered food is then not understood as human flesh , meat, would be food given to idols now, as is the case in parts of the world, and in ancient pagan cultures, as the Bible describes, is something that can be learned if a reader is willing. The Bible refers to the word of God as strong meat.
    Literalists would not understand what that means.

    Learn The Bible -
    The Word of God Compared to Strong Meat
     
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    But Paul dedicates a whole chapter to the physical food...............and I understand that the word can be spiritual, as it can mean milk, living water, cleansing water, strong meat, manna, bread, flesh, and blood.
     
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    So then what is the problem with the Baal worship narrative? And the OP query? "Food" sacrificed to idols in present time.
     
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    worshipping an idol, and sacrificing food as to an idol , is not the same thing.......As Paul explains quite clearly..it is a small chapter but gets the idea across quite sufficiently......:shrug
     
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    Food sacrificed to idols is worship of idols.

    1 Corinthians 10:18 Consider the people of Israel: are not those who eat the sacrifices participants in the altar? 19 What do I imply then? That food offered to idols is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20 No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be participants with demons.
    Footnotes:

    1. 1 Corinthians 10:18 Greek Consider Israel according to the flesh

    Ezekiel 23:39
    "For when they had slaughtered their children for their idols, they entered My sanctuary on the same day to profane it; and lo, thus they did within My house.


    Revelation 2:14
    'But I have a few things against you, because you have there some who hold the teaching of Balaam, who kept teaching Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols and to commit acts of immorality.15 So also you have some who hold the teaching of the Nicolaitans. 16 Therefore repent. If not, I will come to you soon and war against them with the sword of my mouth. 17 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers I will give some of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, with a new name written on the stone that no one knows except the one who receives it.’
     
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    And notice here that they were eating things sacrificed to idols. The scripture in 1 Cor. is sacrificing doing without/negating food for the sake of an idol which in this case was the OT foods to be avoided.

    That example I mentioned earlier about my friend who was "sacrificing the shrimp" from his diet, because of a false belief that he was serving God,by not eating is the jist of what this "sacrificing/doing without/negating from ones diet, for the sake of a falsehood, is the closest I can offer to the explanation to the scripture..
     
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    1 Corinthians 10: 25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, eat, asking no question for conscience’ sake,
    26 for the earth is the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof.
    27 If one of them that believe not biddeth you to a feast , and ye are disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience’ sake.
    28 But if any man say unto you, This hath been offered in sacrifice, eat not, for his sake that showed it, and for conscience sake:
    29 conscience, I say, not thine own, but the other’s;
    for why is my liberty judged by another conscience?

    See, you are to " sacrifice " eating, the food that is sacrificed.

    Rev. 2: 20 But I have this against thee, that thou sufferest the woman Jezebel, who calleth herself a prophetess; and she teacheth and seduceth my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed to idols.
     
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    Acts 15:29
    That you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

    Revelation 2:14
    But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, so that they might eat food sacrificed to idols and practice sexual immorality.


    You don't recognize that sacrificing food to an idol is worship? Why else would someone give a dead thing, an idol, a graven image, actual food when it has no mouth with which to consume the offering?


    What does the Bible say about eating food/meat that has been sacrificed to idols?
    There are certain cultures today where idolatry is still practiced and where the specifics of the Bible’s teaching about sacrificial meat are still timely. For the rest of us, here are the principles which should govern our participation in the “gray areas” of life:

    1) Having the “right” to do something does not mean we are free to do it in every circumstance, regardless of its effects on others.

    2) The believer’s liberty in Christ can and should be voluntarily limited in order not to cause a weaker brother to sin by violating his conscience. Liberty is limited in love.

    3) Maintaining the unity of the Spirit in the bond of love may require a believer to give up his personal “right” to a thing. “How good and pleasant it is when brothers live together in unity!” (Psalm 133:1).

    4) We should avoid anything that would make a weak Christian think less of his faith or that would make an unsaved person feel more at ease in his sin.
     
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