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I think it their design to kneel if they choose to. After reading Tomi's opinion I am curious what the issues are for the ones who kneeled?
 
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My perspective is simple: Keep your practice of politics (and religion and other divisive subjects) separate from your work.
So they ought to stand so it won't be divisive? Do you keep your "religion" and political views separate from work? What does saluting a flag have to do with work anyway?
 
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When I was younger and in school, I remember standing every morning and pledging my allegiance to a flag. I pledge allegiance, to the flag....

As a Christian, why would I pledge my allegiance to a flag? Should I bow down and swear my alliance to a piece of cloth? Jesus said to let your yeah's be yeah's and your nay's be nay's, and to swear no oaths. Should I pledge my allegiance to a flag? Am I to worship idols? Should I stand in condemnation of someone who refuses to bow before the idol?

The National Anthem is a song that Honors a Flag, a flag that you have pledged your allegiance to. An anthem sung to praise a piece of cloth. Shall I be critical of the man who refuse to honor that idol?


As Christians, what have you become when:
  • You become outraged when someone does not respect your idols, because they won't stand and honor a flag.
  • You become outraged when someone does not respect your idols, because they removed a civil war statue.
  • You become outraged when someone does not respect your idols, because they removed Christmas from Christmas by saying holidays instead.
 
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What are your responses to the growing movement in the NFL that shows players kneeling during the national anthem, should players boycott the anthem like that. http://insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/57855
Grown men playing a child's game making millions of dollars and they fail to realize one thing. They're playing for the NATIONAL Football League.

In the NFL if a player wears the wrong cleats during a game he gets fined huge money. But they're allowed to disrespect the NATIONAL anthem, and America, using bogus excuses concerning oppression and marginalization? They're rich. Just not too bright.
And Colin Kaepernick isn't that good a player. His contract wasn't renewed by the San Francisco 49'ers, now he's playing the victim claiming they're violating his first amendment rights. No sir, SF49'ers are a private entity. You don't have the right to free speech.
I think Kaepernick knew he wasn't going to get re-signed and he set this up , the kneeling during the anthem, in order to have an out that would make it the white owners, fault, that he wasn't re-signed. Because they are oppressing his free speech.
Kaepernick's "activism" on the field seems to have coincided with his starting to date a BLM domestic racist terrorist.

Kaepernick can't hold a candle to Jim Brown's record on the field. Colin would do well to heed the wisdom here.

Jim Brown criticizes Kaepernick-style protests: 'I don't desecrate my flag'

"Brown, who fought for social causes throughout his career, told
ThePostGame.com he empathizes with jobless quarterback Colin Kaepernick, who began the trend of kneeling during the anthem last season when he played for the San Francisco 49ers. But Brown said Kaepernick and other players who demonstrate – such as a dozen Cleveland players who knelt Monday – are going about their crusade the wrong way.

“I’m going to give you the real deal: I’m an American,” Brown said. “I don’t desecrate my flag and my national anthem. I’m not gonna do anything against the flag and national anthem. I’m going to work within those situations. But this is my country, and I’ll work out the problems, but I’ll do it in an intelligent manner.”"
 
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When I was younger and in school, I remember standing every morning and pledging my allegiance to a flag. I pledge allegiance, to the flag....

As a Christian, why would I pledge my allegiance to a flag? Should I bow down and swear my alliance to a piece of cloth? Jesus said to let your yeah's be yeah's and your nay's be nay's, and to swear no oaths. Should I pledge my allegiance to a flag? Am I to worship idols? Should I stand in condemnation of someone who refuses to bow before the idol?

The National Anthem is a song that Honors a Flag, a flag that you have pledged your allegiance to. An anthem sung to praise a piece of cloth. Shall I be critical of the man who refuse to honor that idol?


As Christians, what have you become when:
  • You become outraged when someone does not respect your idols, because they won't stand and honor a flag.
  • You become outraged when someone does not respect your idols, because they removed a civil war statue.
  • You become outraged when someone does not respect your idols, because they removed Christmas from Christmas by saying holidays instead.
So you are in kaepernick's camp, got ya.
 
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When I was younger and in school, I remember standing every morning and pledging my allegiance to a flag. I pledge allegiance, to the flag....

As a Christian, why would I pledge my allegiance to a flag? Should I bow down and swear my alliance to a piece of cloth? Jesus said to let your yeah's be yeah's and your nay's be nay's, and to swear no oaths. Should I pledge my allegiance to a flag? Am I to worship idols? Should I stand in condemnation of someone who refuses to bow before the idol?

The National Anthem is a song that Honors a Flag, a flag that you have pledged your allegiance to. An anthem sung to praise a piece of cloth. Shall I be critical of the man who refuse to honor that idol?


As Christians, what have you become when:
  • You become outraged when someone does not respect your idols, because they won't stand and honor a flag.
  • You become outraged when someone does not respect your idols, because they removed a civil war statue.
  • You become outraged when someone does not respect your idols, because they removed Christmas from Christmas by saying holidays instead.
You equivocate allegiance to worship, and that is your fatal flaw. It's patriotism, not idolatry. I take that back maybe in your experience you were worshipping the flag, well I suggest you repent of that, no one else was doing that. We were declaring allegiance.
 
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I spent 24 years of my life in military service defending their right to protest. I'm fine with it.
 
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So you are in kaepernick's camp, got ya.
Now why would you say that? I did not even mention his name. Because I said I could not stand in condemnation over someone who chooses not to honor an idol? That what puts me in his camp in your mind? Little arrogant and presumptuous, wouldn't you say? Now if I were a football player making millions of dollars and given the opportunity to kneel during the anthem, then maybe I would be in his camp.

If I were in his camp, does that mean that I would have to refuse to stand for the national anthem at a sporting event?

I had more that I was going to say, but it would just be lost upon you. You are not here to discuss Christ. Your here for other reasons.
 
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Now why would you say that? I did not even mention his name. Because I said I could not stand in condemnation over someone who chooses not to honor an idol? That what puts me in his camp in your mind? Little arrogant and presumptuous, wouldn't you say? Now if I were a football player making millions of dollars and given the opportunity to kneel during the anthem, then maybe I would be in his camp.

If I were in his camp, does that mean that I would have to refuse to stand for the national anthem at a sporting event?

I had more that I was going to say, but it would just be lost upon you. You are not here to discuss Christ. Your here for other reasons.
Yet you honor the Molich (SP) the god the children were fed too..
 
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They may ,but I may not watch the nfl.but honestly i don't care for the NFL

Since one mentions seperation of work and belief,and a reposte was posted.I ask so I have a right no to pay respect to the flag ,the anthem in the military? That's a crime,btw.
 
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Now why would you say that? I did not even mention his name. Because I said I could not stand in condemnation over someone who chooses not to honor an idol? That what puts me in his camp in your mind? Little arrogant and presumptuous, wouldn't you say? Now if I were a football player making millions of dollars and given the opportunity to kneel during the anthem, then maybe I would be in his camp.

If I were in his camp, does that mean that I would have to refuse to stand for the national anthem at a sporting event?

I had more that I was going to say, but it would just be lost upon you. You are not here to discuss Christ. Your here for other reasons.
So the only thing keeping you from being in kaepernick's camp is the paycheck? Gotcha. This reminds me of jehovahs witnesses who refuse to do pledge of allegiance.
 
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So the only thing keeping you from being in kaepernick's camp is the paycheck? Gotcha. This reminds me of jehovahs witnesses who refuse to do pledge of allegiance.

Keep on assuming. You seem to be good at that. Are you defending idolatry? It's amazing to me how much of my post you actually missed. But then again, I shouldn't be surprised. Your here for reasons of your own, but you are not here to discuss the things of Christ.
 
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Keep on assuming. You seem to be good at that. Are you defending idolatry? It's amazing to me how much of my post you actually missed. But then again, I shouldn't be surprised. Your here for reasons of your own, but you are not here to discuss the things of Christ.
are you jehovah's witness? just curious? And secondly another question did you not say this: "Now if I were a football player making millions of dollars and given the opportunity to kneel during the anthem, then maybe I would be in his camp." So the only thing between you and kaepernick is the paycheck, as you said.

 
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My perspective is simple: Keep your practice of politics (and religion and other divisive subjects) separate from your work.

He is a thought for you. Maybe you should keep your practice of politics and other divisive subjects separate from a Christian community whose purpose is for spiritual growth.

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Seems to me that the divisive nature of politics discussed here does not serve the intended purpose of building one another up in the faith, but rather serves to tear one another down. But you all seem to revel in it.
 
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You think by showing pics of soldiers proves your point in saluting the American flag? You know nothing of these players but yet you criticize them and put them down for not saluting a flag. You do have an agenda, and your agenda is spreading propaganda of lies. That flag represents the pagan Babylonian system that controls this nation. Not you or I! That flag represents oppression and tyranny and endless unjust wars. The imperial system that it is, colonization of the world for the beast system.. That flag represents its foundation, white supremacy. You exploit theses soldiers just like this Luciferian deep state that controls this nation. But yet you are to blind to see this. What we have is because of the Lord.. Christ Himself. You ought to be praising Him, rather than the arm of flesh
 
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