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nope it isn't .... and i know no conservative who thinks there is or was no ugly racism or discrimination.
So to fix the problem we waller in it? i dont think so...
I'm not proposing we Waller in it. One of the issues I think we have is that its an Issue the current republican party avoids because it is seen as Left wing to openly address these problems. When issues are brought up, its usually just increasing cops or defense spending. Pence was my governor and that was the attitude we got from him and many of my local government that fall on the Republican side tend to equate helping with increasing police. I think if the Republican platform included more groundwork for Black Americans and other minorities the tide will shift from the minorities from voting in mass more Democrat.


The photo of the looters is it racism to post it? or is it simply showing the lack of personal responsibility on part of the looters?
Its not racist to knowledge that crime exists and that its happens in the black communities. With the exception of some activists, that isn't the point. The main point is that there are real issues that need to be addressed, but they seem to not be discussed or even confronted without hostility of thinking its about punishing or shaming white people. That isn't a jab at you Reba, its just something I've seen time and again.

Acknowledging racism isn't turning an eye away from crime, but helps to contextualize it.

I think people are opportunistic regardless of their situation. The goal i want to see tackled is trying to make it so its not as much of an issue in the future.
 
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how is it avoided? do you think a proclamation needs to be stated every morning... that there has been discrimination?
How about hiring people on their abilities with out making sure to check a race box?
Affirmative action had a place ..that time should have passed
down the lines of .... when the standards for firefighters was lowered for women that was not right.
 
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how is it avoided? do you think a proclamation needs to be stated every morning... that there has been discrimination?
No that's silly. It's not about stating that it happened or is happening, but about future actions to aide in issues of African Americans along side everyone else.
How about hiring people on their abilities with out making sure to check a race box?
Affirmative action had a place ..that time should have passed
down the lines of .... when the standards for firefighters was lowered for women that was not right.
I didnt say affirmative action was the answer. I was saying that I would like to see the Republican party be more involved in Minority issues so the Democrats don't hold a monopoly.
 
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What exactly does
I was saying that I would like to see the Republican party be more involved in Minority issues so the Democrats don't hold a monopoly.
mean to you?
What do you mean minority issues... You do not see that as a racist term as i do..
The brake down of the American Family is the biggest issue that crosses race lines...
The democrats have worked to show fathers as not being important in the family.. I am remembering the murphy brown show..etc..
 
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Have you really made a stand for the good of American Indians lately? What are you doing for Elizabeth Warren?
I am extremely sympathetic to the American Indians. If you are talking about the Pipeline protests, I thought the actual native people handled it better than most of the protesters that caused more issues then they "solved". I'm not doing anything for Elizabeth Warren.
 
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Are you Democratic?
no, I'm a libertarian with eight wing ecconomic stances.
The vast majority of Native Americans vote for Democrats. And run for office as Democrats.
Hence why I was stating that I would like to see Republicans become more involved with MI oriry issues. I feel that Democrats have a monopoly over minority issues and that Republicans have neglected the issues resulting in the current distrust of Republicans by minorities.
 
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Are you Democratic?
no, I'm a libertarian with eight wing ecconomic stances.
The vast majority of Native Americans vote for Democrats. And run for office as Democrats.
Hence why I was stating that I would like to see Republicans become more involved with MI oriry issues. I feel that Democrats have a monopoly over minority issues and that Republicans have neglected the issues resulting in the current distrust of Republicans by minorities.
 
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nope it isn't .... and i know no conservative who thinks there is or was no ugly racism or discrimination.
So to fix the problem we waller in it? i dont think so...
jasonc i have never lived in the south more of the ugliness you speak of is southern .. Living in Northern California ... what you speak of was not here...

The photo of the looters is it racism to post it? or is it simply showing the lack of personal responsibility on part of the looters?
The ones in Broward?
 
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No that's silly. It's not about stating that it happened or is happening, but about future actions to aide in issues of African Americans along side everyone else.
I didnt say affirmative action was the answer. I was saying that I would like to see the Republican party be more involved in Minority issues so the Democrats don't hold a monopoly.
The only "monopoly" the democrats have held regarding minorities is taking steps and working to create minorities as a victim class and then keeping them there.
 
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What exactly does mean to you?
What do you mean minority issues... You do not see that as a racist term as i do..
The brake down of the American Family is the biggest issue that crosses race lines...
The democrats have worked to show fathers as not being important in the family.. I am remembering the murphy brown show..etc..
I went to school in Gifford, elementary,middle school grades 6,and 7.the old middle school grade 7 waa the segragated high school for the blacks that was later integrated and then closed. I tend to know Gifford better then the young folks who never lived there .that said because I'm white ,I still have that culture barrier.for example recently I went to throw a paper and a disabled black lady asked me to go into Gifford and driver her to her daughters home.she was distraught,and wanting to help her daughter .I thought it was a drug deal.had it not been the Lord I'm not sure I woukd have. The lady was praying and was lead to me.she appeared sincere.I was afraid to go there and asked in depth questions.had it been another area and possibly a white woman I might not have been as hesistant.we cant ignore thar we do have enclaves of cultures who can be patriots and still have their parent culture.you probably don't see this ,as I have.its here but not as pronounced as Miami .funny I have had this conversation with a Colombian I know who is fluent on 5 languages and more cultural then the artsy here but doesn't come across as one.he and his wife are into shows,art shoes etc and are children of immigrants. They rightfully call my county redneckvile and mono cultural. I have debated him with miami history and he knows I know and love history .I gave him the name sake of Dade and how he died.killed in battle at micapony by Osceola and the renegades.

Miami was very white and now it's very caribean and latin.it's in error to assume it's poor as miami is the 4th richest city in the union. Miami as in proper though the county is up there .that is something I was told as he thought I was implying something when I qouted Calhoun, on the poor ,poor ,south.
 
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And if this thread gets derailed to homosexual topic or trans, that's off topic and should be dealt with. Not condoned.

I know people who will not watch football until the NFL does something about the disrespect overpaid players show the country wherein they play and garner too much money to play a game.
But there are far too many people that love football more than their country so as to see a necessary cause toward that action.
These players that kneel should ideally reap the wrath of their teammates. But when the owners, the coaches, and no one has the guts to stop it, it will continue. These people are subversives and treasonists.
They're not American's. As they tell us when they kneel during the national anthem.
 
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Rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
  1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
It seems like you are splitting hairs here. As I already mentioned the core of the issue is how people are treated, what word is used is trivial at best.
the OED oxford english dictionary one of the most influential dictionaries adds to racism, discrimination. So while racism includes prejudice, it is not the same as prejudice, even in your definition. Prejudice is not defined as having discrimination while racism does. So I hope you will now refuse to equivocate the two from now on.


https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/racism
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/prejudice

is the black artist that made the below skit or artistic display, racist or merely prejudice? I would venture that because there is discrimination that there was also racism:
 
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Whatever huh? It's still pronounced as politician, and I was just messing with you. :)
What's their stance on the use of the word "Redskins"?
I won't speak for them, but my stance is that it's up to the team whether they changes its name, but I also think if people are upset with the name they have the right to express it.
 
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The seminole tribe has no problem with the use of the name semiNoles by fsu or its mascot and locally the Indian mascot.
 
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the OED oxford english dictionary one of the most influential dictionaries
Do you understand what the term splitting hairs means? It means that a person is being obtuse and being nit picky. If your problem is that I used the term rascist and you would prefer I call it prejudice, then it is something we will have to agree to disagree about.

is the black artist that made the below skit or artistic display, racist or merely prejudice? I would venture that because there is discrimination that there was also racism:
What is the context of the exhibit?
 
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The only "monopoly" the democrats have held regarding minorities is taking steps and working to create minorities as a victim class and then keeping them there.
So what is the Republican party doing to reaffirm that Minorities aren't victims and are strong and valued people?
 
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