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Who wrote about a red herring logical fallacy? Is it OK for you to support irrational reasoning (i.e. logical fallacies) on CFnet on any topic?
lol guess so and it is ok in some threads to debate and ok in others to play word games ... some times it is ok to have some fun..
Reads to me like you are the one writing about a red herring logical fallacy...and now i have :)
 
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lol guess so and it is ok in some threads to debate and ok in others to play word games ... some times it is ok to have some fun..
Reads to me like you are the one writing about a red herring logical fallacy...and now i have :)
Reads to me like you don't know what a red herring fallacy is.

I'll not continue this discussion with you. :wave2
 

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Description: Attempting to redirect the argument to another issue that to which the person doing the redirecting can better respond. While it is similar to the avoiding the issue fallacy, the red herring is a deliberate diversion of attention with the intention of trying to abandon the original argument.
 

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What i read here in this thread is about a member wanting things to be his way.. While refusing to grasp the efforts of others. Others who are trying to give knowledge for the understanding of why the rules are as they are..

Not continuing this discussion is the best idea of the day... :)
 
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What i read here in this thread is about a member wanting things to be his way.. While refusing to grasp the efforts of others. Others who are trying to give knowledge for the understanding of why the rules are as they are..

Not continuing this discussion is the best idea of the day... :)
I'm talking about not continuing the discussion with you. By the way, naming me as 'a member' is hardly a way to build a relationship.
 
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My first reaction to this idea is this sounds like a tremendous amount of work in addition to what we're doing already.
But that's why you make the big bucks. :lol

This also sounds like it would result in chaos, because some members would not likely admit that they failed to address something.
Ya think? :lol

Then we're going back and forth to the posts involved to verify and with them as they state their case that they did state their case.
Let 'em do that, then be done with it.

Maybe I don't understand exactly how you envision this happening. If you want to dig deeper, it might be worth it to start another discussion in this forum.
It's simple and doesn't really need any lengthy discussion.
I just wish when someone's obviously being unfair, dishonest, dodgy, etc. that a moderator, or even just another forum member would pop in and say, "hey, I've been following your discussion here and, truthfully, you've not supported your assertion", or whatever it is they aren't doing well in regard to the expectations of a legitimate debate.
 

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It's simple and doesn't really need any lengthy discussion.
I just wish when someone's obviously being unfair, dishonest, dodgy, etc. that a moderator, or even just another forum member would pop in and say, "hey, I've been following your discussion here and, truthfully, you've not supported your assertion", or whatever it is they aren't doing well in regard to the expectations of a legitimate debate.
we try to call the balls and strikes ... not the batter
 
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Description: Attempting to redirect the argument to another issue that to which the person doing the redirecting can better respond. While it is similar to the avoiding the issue fallacy, the red herring is a deliberate diversion of attention with the intention of trying to abandon the original argument.
i.e. the Political Debates=Red Herrings, all.
 
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6 “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
 

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I left another Christian forum twice because there was way too much bickering etc... Let alone many of them were not so welcoming. I find that to be disgraceful also an embarrassment to that forum. I have not returned since.
Thank you... the staff here does our best to be fair.. The site is not a denomination, not affiliated with any denomination. ... Staff has different denominational backgrounds, we talk with each other striving to maintain fairness... We are not always correct.. to each of us this is a ministry .. We know moderating is a hot seat... kind words are a huge help... :)
 
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we try to call the balls and strikes ... not the batter
That is what I'm saying.
When a debater delivers a pitch that isn't over the plate (it's unsubstantiated, opinionated, etc.) then it would be nice if a moderator said so. Then they can pitch it again, and if it's over the plate, then good, the debate can continue. For example, right now I wish someone would speak up in a certain thread and tell a particular debater that making a statement of denial without facts to support it is not a legitimate debate technique. Someone has to tell him that he has not been making his point, and that simply denying what I'm saying is not proving anything.
 

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It seems to me that the claim of using a red herring fallacy could have been a red herring fallacy in its own right. After all, didn't that claim result in the thread being distracted from the OP toward the discussion of what a red herring is?

:topic

It is the goal of CFnet to provide a place for all members to find a forum where they can feel comfortable sharing their faith with other brothers and sisters in Christ. For some, that means providing more light-hearted forums where they may feel more protected from possible challenges and not have to defend themselves or their faith from other more seasoned and mature Christians. They still have the option to view and even contribute to the more robust discussions found in the debate forums if they choose but to open all forums up to that same potential would, in my opinion, close the door for too many. Jesus is our model and He did not debate everything with everybody. He approached all with compassion and understanding.

CFnet provides places "where Christians can come together in fellowship for encouragement, inspiration, and strength to help build each other up and grow in our walk of faith through honest and open discussion, study, reflection, and prayer" and also serves "non-Christians, seeking answers to questions about Christianity, by sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ so they too may acquire the hope, joy, and peace that come from fellowship with the saving grace of our Lord, Jesus Christ." The last thing we would want is to cause someone to stumble or turn someone away from Christianity by challenging them before they are mature enough to handle it.

Providing forums to satisfy those who wish to engage in debate as well as those who do not does align with our "Purpose" and "Desire" statements quoted above and found on our home page. We truly appreciate your comments and your contributions to CFnet but I think for now CFnet will leave the forum policies as they are.

Thank you.
 
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