Bible Study Free from Hell

[Kidron]

Many people, not all, but many are frantically trying to substitute their own self righteousness for the Blood of Jesus, to keep themselves saved.
Thats very interesting.

And why does this happen?
Well, some are just taught wrong, believed it, have become hardened in their theological mind, and will never recover as truth has no way to get past the wall of theological deceit that has deceived them.

But for many, its just a very simple confusion, which takes a bit of explaining.
Which is.....they do not understand that Salvation and Discipleship, are NOT the same.
They have linked them, and trust that BOTH are necessary to be saved and to stay saved.
So....lets look..

Salvation, is what God did for you, He saved you, you became born again, and all of this is NONE OF YOU< and strictly caused by the Blood Atonement.
The Atonement, is the . AT - ONE - MENT......that is, we are become ONE with God, based on God solving our SIN issue.
That is the finished work of the Cross, which is, to restore our sinless condition by the sacrifice of Jesus for our sins, and then God gives us His Righteousness, ("the gift of righteousness",) all in place of our sin, that JESUS TOOK upon himself, = thus, freeing us eternally from the judgment due us.
All a hell bound lost sinner is, is a person who has not had the Judgment for their sins removed from them, by the Blood of Jesus.
Which IS, Salvation and Eternal life.
This is why you, if you are born again, will never face judgment for your sin after you die, and that is because Jesus has faced it for you while you were alive.
Get THAT !!!
God can't judge you in eternity, for what He has already Judged Jesus FOR< ...... when you were saved.
Your SIN, will never slay Christ on the Cross and also find you in Hell, judged, in eternity.

Its the story of the woman who is in the field and there is a fire in the field 100 yard away, behind her, that is being pushed by the wind toward her at 25mph.
She can't outrun it, and its coming.....she is going to BURN unless this is solved.
So, she take her matches, and lights a fire on the ground, and this fire takes off and spreads and spreads and spreads, and soon, its burned all in front of her, as the wind took this fire and pushed it
So, as the approaching flames behind her are getting near, she simply walks into the area of already burned, that she caused, and stands in the middle of this wide and now vast area of burned out black field.
Now, when the approaching fire gets to her, it cant touch her, as there is nothing left for it to burn, so she is safe where she is standing.
And just As God's judgment is coming for the lost, it wont touch the redeemed because the blood of Christ is where they are STANDING and can't be HARMED or JUDGED or LOST or Burned.
God's judgement, does not burn twice, the same, and it has already burned the One on the cross, (in your place) and that is where you are standing, and now your are safe and sound and that for eternity.

So, once the sin issue was resolved, (The Cross) (Salvation) hell was omitted-deleted from your eternity, as hell is for the sin bearer, and not for the atoned-redeemed.
Christ rejectors (sin bearers) cannot go to heaven, and Christ's redeemed cannot go to hell.
This is the eternal work of redemption, this is the result of the Blood of Jesus and God's very Righteousness being applied to you.
And always remember, Jesus's blood was shed 2000 years ago, yet, its power to forgive and pardon , reaches into the future, and continues.
And why, ?...Its because this is the effect of GOD's BLOOD, continuing to atone, which IS redemption.
You...... have no part in that, as you can't save yourself, because you can't pay for your own sins.., as your BLOOD is not worthy.
Following that, you are to live as person who has become a member of God's family.
This is discipleship.......
You dont do it to become, and you dont do it to keep from losing this position, as how can you lose what you didnt cause?

Here is something to consider, if you are a person who is convinced that your eternal life, your salvation, is kept or lost by your lifestyle.
Let me ask you this..
Is it possible to live for God, and serve him the best you know how, and be acquainted with the concepts of the 10 commandments, and be a faithful churchgoer, and work with orphans, and give to the poor, and die and go to hell like a bullet?
Yes.
And many will, and many have, and with certainty.
And why?.... = because they are good disciples, they are good religious people, but they are not born again......they are lost.
So, you can be religious, you can be a disciple, and not be saved.
You can be a very good disciple of God, of Christ, and not be redeemed...... but, you cannot be redeemed and be lost, as you can only be lost if the Blood of Jesus and God's righteousness, has not been applied to your sins, and to you.
Discipleship without Salvation is self righteousness, is RELIGION, and many have this issue.
You can have Discipleship without Jesus's blood being shed for you, but you can't have Jesus's BLOOD being shed for you, without being saved for eternity because of ITS Effect.


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[Chopper]

Hello my friend Kidron. Man, what a wonderful instruction on the process of becoming saved according to the absolute Truth that Scripture presents with no guess work. I say "Born from above" rather than Born again. I think Born from above describes what you have presented, where born again has been thrown around so much that it has lost the Truth that it is supposed to present.

I had never thought of the danger of Christian discipleship the way you described it in this quote....

. they do not understand that Salvation and Discipleship, are NOT the same.

You certainly have made it clear and true. This verse in James makes it clear that if faith alone will not save, as well as works or discipleship alone will not save as you have presented.

So my friend. I hope those of whom the Holy Spirit is trying to reach with the truth of salvation, will read and obey your instruction.

Love You,
Chopper

 

[Douglas Summers]

Many people, not all, but many are frantically trying to substitute their own self righteousness for the Blood of Jesus, to keep themselves saved.
Thats very interesting.

And why does this happen?
Well, some are just taught wrong, believed it, have become hardened in their theological mind, and will never recover as truth has no way to get past the wall of theological deceit that has deceived them.

But for many, its just a very simple confusion, which takes a bit of explaining.
Which is.....they do not understand that Salvation and Discipleship, are NOT the same.
They have linked them, and trust that BOTH are necessary to be saved and to stay saved.

Hi Kidron, There is a change in a person that has repented and has been regenerated by God with the Holy Spirit.. I had never heard of someone mistaking Salvation with discipleship, nor have I read any thing about discipleship taught in the NT Church. What I understand about the NT church is calling and election, and those gifts that the Holy Spirit uses through us in 1 Corinthians chapter 12, but I know a lot of churches have discipleship classes, but it is God who teaches (1 John 2:26-28). It is important that the believer knows that his sins were not atoned for, nor does atonement mean at-one-with God. The translator substituted atonement for the original text of "reconciled". Atonement means to cover, Christ did not cover our sins, but completely removed them as far as the east is from the west. Now that is something worth rejoicing about.
I went through what you were posting about working to be acceptable to God after I was saved, but that had a lot to do with my upbringing. I always had to prove myself to people (in my own family) to try and be accepted. I did the same with God, but He kept pushing me away, until one day I finally got it, He had saved me...not by my merit, but by His love in Christ Jesus. The Spirit is real and actually works in a born again believer, Christ said it, "you must be born again", and in a born again believer, he is never alone, but sometimes hard of hearing. Don't take this as criticism,I'm just telling my experience and studies with the things you were teaching.
In Christ, who is our righteousness
Douglas Summers

 

[for_his_glory]

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. 28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine: 29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.