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Futurist vs Preterist debate

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I have to say that I was a little surprised to see Hanegraaff on the 65AD side. I seldom agree with even one single word he says.
 
Willie T said:
Didn't know that. I guess he has always turned me off so much that I never even gave too much thought to him.
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I was presented some materials via a member here that had statements. he isn't a preterist as many are just on matthew 24 and other passages linked to ad 70.
 
Hank Hanegraaf is an unsound teacher ("twisted theology"), for all his pretensions of being the Bible Answerman. See below as posted on http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wo...alse-theology-and-questionable-character.html

Here is an excerpt of an article by Jan Markel of Olivetreeviews.org about Hank Hanegraaff’s attack on Dispensational Premillennial Theology (article was posted on Worldview Weekend).
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ANSWERING “THE BIBLE ANSWERMAN” Three years ago Hank decided to get on the eschatology bandwagon for himself. He began a series of fiction on his eschatology: Preterism. That belief says that all or most of end-time events transpired in 70 AD. Nero was the Antichrist. The Tribulation was the persecution of Christians. Hank and most “partial Preterists” still believe in the Second Coming. “Full Preterists” believe Christ returned “in spirit” in 70 AD. Not much fanfare for the King of Kings back then!
Now many are taking Hanegraaff to task for not only false theology but for outrageous comments on air and in his book, “Apocalypse Code” as well as his fiction series with co-author Sigmund Brouwer. Dr. Thomas Ice, who serves on this ministry’s “board of reference” says, “The great majority of the book (Apocalypse Code) is a rant against Hanegraaff’s distorted view of Dispensationalism in general and Tim LaHaye in particular. There is precious little actual exegesis, if any at all, to support his Preterist/idealist eschatology; however, there are great quantities of some of the most vicious tirades against LaHaye and many other Bible prophecy teachers that I have ever read in print.” This can be found on the Web site of the Pre-Trib Research Institute, www.pre-trib.org.”
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Kathi said:
Yes,he became a preterist.
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Malachi said:
Hank Hanegraaf is an unsound teacher ("twisted theology"), for all his pretensions of being the Bible Answerman. See below as posted on http://www.thepropheticyears.com/wo...alse-theology-and-questionable-character.html
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I used to listen to him on my way home from work several years ago.He was ok for the basic Bible teaching but he got somewhat bizarre for his eschatology stuff.He would get impatient and angry sometimes to the people who called in.
 
Malachi said:
Kathi,
What say you? Is Preterism true or false, based upon Scripture as well as world history?
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Preterism was pushed by the catholic church who saw themselves as the fulfillment of the saints ruling the earth with Jesus for 1000 years. Thats why there was so much fear around the year 1000 because they all thought the end of the world was going to happen.. Because it did not happen they had to change the interpretation of the 1000 years from a literal 1000 years so a symbolic interpretation for just a long time.
 
{Full} Preterism is Heresy, plain and simple.

Paul teaches that anyone who says the Resurrection is past, has stryed from the Truth and their teaching is like a spreading cancer in the Body.

15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some.
2 Timothy 2:15-18


The Olivet Discourse has zero to do with 70 AD. ZERO!


JLB
 
JLB said:
{Full} Preterism is Heresy, plain and simple.

Paul teaches that anyone who says the Resurrection is past, has stryed from the Truth and their teaching is like a spreading cancer in the Body.

15 Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 16 But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. 17 And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, 18 who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some.
2 Timothy 2:15-18


The Olivet Discourse has zero to do with 70 AD. ZERO!


JLB
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I agree with you about full preterism but I think that in all truth and frankly logic one must remember that when Paul said the resurrection had not passed it was Before 70AD. So in order to prove through scripture that the resurrection didn't happen in 70AD this statement by Paul that it hadn't happened yet, proves nothing about it happening a few years later.
Paul is talking about someone saying the resurrection had happened Before 70AD.

Prove it didn't using other scripture and one has an argument that will hold up.
 
Adstar said:
Preterism was pushed by the catholic church who saw themselves as the fulfillment of the saints ruling the earth with Jesus for 1000 years. Thats why there was so much fear around the year 1000 because they all thought the end of the world was going to happen.. Because it did not happen they had to change the interpretation of the 1000 years from a literal 1000 years so a symbolic interpretation for just a long time.
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Can you provide documentation of this? Writings from RCC originators, etc.. Who or what should one read to verify this information?
 
Adstar said:
Preterism was pushed by the catholic church who saw themselves as the fulfillment of the saints ruling the earth with Jesus for 1000 years. Thats why there was so much fear around the year 1000 because they all thought the end of the world was going to happen.. Because it did not happen they had to change the interpretation of the 1000 years from a literal 1000 years so a symbolic interpretation for just a long time.
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Are you meaning that is what the religious elite feared? Not saying people werent generally fearful at the time, but it had absolutely nothing to do with religious ideology.
 
Deborah13 said:
Can you provide documentation of this? Writings from RCC originators, etc.. Who or what should one read to verify this information?
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He probably can but that would open up a can of catholic teachings which we aren't allowed to post, i have the documentation but the same thing applies..

tob
 
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