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Going Out Of Orthodoxy Sale
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billybalke
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Not as bad as it sounds guys. But, it is a problem we're dealing with. Liberal bishops and clergy refusing to live by their covenant oaths to defend the faith.
"Everything must go! Bibles, hymnals, sound doctrine—make an offer!"
billybalke
Member
The Methodist Church sold out long, long ago. I used to be one.
Christ_empowered
Member
i read that the Methodist Church now has a person who is....I don't know the going term....not male or female, somehow. non-binary, is that it? Anyway, this individual is now a...bishop, maybe (?).
it is what it is. From what I've read, Methodists in other nations are appalled by some of what's going on in parts of the US church. I grew up PCUSA, and now...wow. Small, southern town church. They were liberal-ish, for this area, when I was little (my mother was briefly an elder), but now...its crazy. There's a larger, semi-local PCUSA church that's "gay-affirming" to the point that it strikes me as a sort of marketing campaign.
I read parts of this sermon/vision from David Wilkerson, from the 70s...he said that a time would come in the US when the occult would seep into the church and all sorts of anti-Christ beliefs and behaviors would suddenly be declared "holy" and such. I think he also wrote that Christians would experience persecution --within-- the organized church, pretty much in all denominations. On the plus side, he also wrote about what he termed a "remnant," a group of genuine followers of Christ (including RCC folk) who would find each other and support each other, even as the established denominations continued to get worse and worse.
it is what it is. From what I've read, Methodists in other nations are appalled by some of what's going on in parts of the US church. I grew up PCUSA, and now...wow. Small, southern town church. They were liberal-ish, for this area, when I was little (my mother was briefly an elder), but now...its crazy. There's a larger, semi-local PCUSA church that's "gay-affirming" to the point that it strikes me as a sort of marketing campaign.
I read parts of this sermon/vision from David Wilkerson, from the 70s...he said that a time would come in the US when the occult would seep into the church and all sorts of anti-Christ beliefs and behaviors would suddenly be declared "holy" and such. I think he also wrote that Christians would experience persecution --within-- the organized church, pretty much in all denominations. On the plus side, he also wrote about what he termed a "remnant," a group of genuine followers of Christ (including RCC folk) who would find each other and support each other, even as the established denominations continued to get worse and worse.
I heard that a "non-binary" person was appointed a bishop somewhere, I know that a married lesbian bishop was appointed in a United Methodist conference in California; of course, California had Methodist Churches where they DIDN'T BELIEVE IN GOD...
in my town in Texas, our United Methodist Church is starting a Food Pantry for the poor
the one Church of the Nazarene in town has grown quite huge, running a full-time daycare and school now,
Nazarenes are similar to Methodists, also coming from John Wesley theology...
at one point I changed my SIGNATURE to
"Admitted Binary Heterosexual"
but I since dropped it
some think that either Conservative or Liberal Methodists will split off
in my town in Texas, our United Methodist Church is starting a Food Pantry for the poor
the one Church of the Nazarene in town has grown quite huge, running a full-time daycare and school now,
Nazarenes are similar to Methodists, also coming from John Wesley theology...
at one point I changed my SIGNATURE to
"Admitted Binary Heterosexual"
but I since dropped it
some think that either Conservative or Liberal Methodists will split off
Christ_empowered
Member
Mike S. said something to that effect a while back, when there was more LGBTQ(any missing letters?) controversy in the Methodist Church in the US. Kinda makes sense.
billybalke
Member
I apologize for my repetitions in the above posts, just trying to get the hang of this machine. God bless!
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No problem. It's fixed.
billybalke
Member
Hi Anto9us. I'm a native Texan transplanted out of state as my wife wanted to be "close to her babies". May I ask where in Texas you are?
As to your post could it be your congregation doesn't talk about "controversial stuff" because they don't know the scripture well enough, or they do not believe its inspiration, or simply do not care enough?
God bless!
As to your post could it be your congregation doesn't talk about "controversial stuff" because they don't know the scripture well enough, or they do not believe its inspiration, or simply do not care enough?
God bless!
billybalke
Member
Thank you Anto9us. I lived overlooking Inks Lake, not far from Waco.
My understanding is that "lesbian Bishops" would be anti-scriptural. I left the Methodist Church about 1948 and it would have been unheard of at that date.
God bless.
My understanding is that "lesbian Bishops" would be anti-scriptural. I left the Methodist Church about 1948 and it would have been unheard of at that date.
God bless.
I have been camping at Inks Lake, billy -- vaguely remember it
YEA - 2 members OLDER Than me -- maybe a record!
I am not really inclined to leave my Methodist Church here because of some nuts in California being anti-scriptural,
but I have been thinking about Church of the Nazarene, another Wesleyan/Arminian denomination
Nazarene Church in Waco has become HUGE - school, playgrounds - growin like hotcakes
YEA - 2 members OLDER Than me -- maybe a record!
I am not really inclined to leave my Methodist Church here because of some nuts in California being anti-scriptural,
but I have been thinking about Church of the Nazarene, another Wesleyan/Arminian denomination
Nazarene Church in Waco has become HUGE - school, playgrounds - growin like hotcakes
jasonc
Member
Must be a centagenerianYEA another member older then me
billybalke
Member
Still have the 1948 Methodist Discipline the preacher gave me to convince me to remain a Methodist. He didn't have a Bible at all.
God bless to all
God bless to all
Politico
Member
Was this sign satire or a stand against orthodoxy?Not as bad as it sounds guys. But, it is a problem we're dealing with. Liberal bishops and clergy refusing to live by their covenant oaths to defend the faith.
"Everything must go! Bibles, hymnals, sound doctrine—make an offer!"
Conservative Christianity is gaining ground in the US.
Mike S
Member
It's satire.