Hipsters

[Rollo Tamasi]

Yes.
But not a practicing one.

So you think homos are born that way?

 

[GodsGrace]

So you think homos are born that way?

I think that whether one was born that way or thinks he is, it doesn't matter.
If he thinks it, that's his reality.
And one could be Christian as long as he wants to and follows God's Laws and believes in Jesus to save him.
Please PM me if you don't agree.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I think that whether one was born that way or thinks he is, it doesn't matter.
If he thinks it, that's his reality.
And one could be Christian as long as he wants to and follows God's Laws and believes in Jesus to save him.
Please PM me if you don't agree.

No, I'd rather talk about it out in the open so others could join in.
But if you don't want to, I'm okay with that.

 

[GodsGrace]

No, I'd rather talk about it out in the open so others could join in.
But if you don't want to, I'm okay with that.

What I think is that some are born that way because some animals are like that too. At least that's what I read. Of course, it could have been written by doctors belonging to the Natl Homo Club.
I also believe that some become that way for different reasons. I'm not knowledgfeable enough to disuss this. Maybe lack of a male figure, maybe bullying, maybe a dominant mother - I don't know.

Whatever made the person like that, he could still be saved. God can forgive anything. The only requirement is that it not be practiced.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Strawberry Fields forever.....
Let me take you down cuz I'm going to...
Strawberry Fields...
Where nothing is real...
And nothing to get hung up about...
Strawberry Fields forever...

 

[GodsGrace]

Strawberry Fields forever.....
Let me take you down cuz I'm going to...
Strawberry Fields...
Where nothing is real...
And nothing to get hung up about...
Strawberry Fields forever...

Why?

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

I'm an LSD freak.

 

[GodsGrace]

I'm an LSD freak.

No. Why do you not agree?

 

[jasonc]

Strawberry Fields forever.....
Let me take you down cuz I'm going to...
Strawberry Fields...
Where nothing is real...
And nothing to get hung up about...
Strawberry Fields forever...

Spook hill isn't far nor Bok Tower.

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

What I think is that some are born that way because some animals are like that too. At least that's what I read. Of course, it could have been written by doctors belonging to the Natl Homo Club.
I also believe that some become that way for different reasons. I'm not knowledgfeable enough to disuss this. Maybe lack of a male figure, maybe bullying, maybe a dominant mother - I don't know.

Whatever made the person like that, he could still be saved. God can forgive anything. The only requirement is that it not be practiced.

Okay.
Where in the Bible does it quote that requirement?

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

No. Why do you not agree?

I do agree

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Spook hill isn't far nor Bok Tower.

What on planet Earth are you babbling about again?

 

[GodsGrace]

Okay.
Where in the Bible does it quote that requirement?

Its a common concept.
I'm not near a bible but it is written that sin goes thru stages. It starts in the mind, goes to the heart and then the act is the final srep.

It could be argued that sin happens in the final step OR when the heart dwells on committing the act.

If you don't practice homosexuality it cannot be a sin because no act was committed

 

[Christ_empowered]

Its a common concept.
I'm not near a bible but it is written that sin goes thru stages. It starts in the mind, goes to the heart and then the act is the final srep.

It could be argued that sin happens in the final step OR when the heart dwells on committing the act.

If you don't practice homosexuality it cannot be a sin because no act was committed

There's some stuff coming out of the Baptist seminaries now...the homogay thoughts are sinful, even without actual physical consummation. That strikes me as...harsh. Reactionary, even. I dunno.

The RCC has declared the orientation "intrisically disordered," because nothing good can come of it...but the orientation is not sinful. Its just another cross to bear. Barring serious changes, a homogay individual should opt for celibacy. I'm not RCC, but...I do think they're awfully insightful about a lot of things. I do think some men and women can become heterosexual enough to sustain a monogamous, lifelong, Christian, heterosexual marriage...but that's not true of all of us.

I also don't think most counseling, psychotherapy, psychoanalysis, etc. is likely to be enough for most of the homogay population to change, although I do seem to recall reading that old school psychiatrists, back in the day, could often at least get their patients to reduce their promiscuity and sustain more stable relationships. Not ideal, but...that's probably the best the secular realm ever had for meaningful change.

I think Protestants need to bring back celibacy as a valid, respectable (and respected) way of life. Marriage isn't for everyone. Of course...celibate male homosexuals, in particular, seem to be regarded as The Other by men in the congregation (and society at large). That's a problem because of lot of homogay orientation, identity, and behavior overlaps with gender issues. With society now "affirming" all things LGBTQ --and-- also deconstructing gender, I think Protestant churches need to create a space for those of us who aren't heterosexual, but are repentant and willing to lead lives guided by Christ, sexual morality included.

 

[Christ_empowered]

Oh, and...back to topic.

I'm not much fond of Hipsters, but that's from personal experience. I found them to be elitist and...remarkably...homogenized. Same clothes, same musical tastes, the ladies often even had similar hair colors...but they drone on and on about "authenticity" and how incredibly "unique" they are, each and every one of them.

I dunno. I'm not big into being "unique" and "an individual" --now--, because I'm 32 and...well, why bother? I guess if you're 13-25, cool-ness and "authenticity" are worthwhile goals...

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

Its a common concept.
I'm not near a bible but it is written that sin goes thru stages. It starts in the mind, goes to the heart and then the act is the final srep.

It could be argued that sin happens in the final step OR when the heart dwells on committing the act.

If you don't practice homosexuality it cannot be a sin because no act was committed

If you consider yourself a homosexual and you think about it, it is a sin

 

[Christ_empowered]

Takes me back to my childhood in the Presbyterian church...."forgive us our sins of word, thought, and deed..."

 

[GodsGrace]

Oh, and...back to topic.

I'm not much fond of Hipsters, but that's from personal experience. I found them to be elitist and...remarkably...homogenized. Same clothes, same musical tastes, the ladies often even had similar hair colors...but they drone on and on about "authenticity" and how incredibly "unique" they are, each and every one of them.

I dunno. I'm not big into being "unique" and "an individual" --now--, because I'm 32 and...well, why bother? I guess if you're 13-25, cool-ness and "authenticity" are worthwhile goals...

I agree with the above.
I'll reply tomorrow re the more complicated issue - I'm on a phone right now.

W

 

[Rollo Tamasi]

The world wants you to accept homosexuality, and when you do, you become part of the world.
Just as the world wants you to accept abortion.
When you do, you become part of the world.
The world wants you to accept that all religions lead to God, because when you do, you become part of the world.

When you take a stand against these things, the world wants to destroy you.

 

[GodsGrace]

If you consider yourself a homosexual and you think about it, it is a sin

Like CE said: some churches believe that if you just ARE homosxl its a sin. This cannot be.
As far as thinking about it, I'm not sure what you mean. It'd complicated to write about here.