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We know that in the last days God is coming to rule.

Rev 19:6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.


His family will be part of it


Mat 19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.



This has been prophesied from the beginning.


Jer 33:14 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah.

Jer 33:15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

Jer 33:16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness.

Jer 33:17 For thus saith the LORD; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;



And it happened!



Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.


Jer 17:25 Then shall there enter into the gates of this city kings and princes sitting upon the throne of David, riding in chariots and on horses, they, and their princes, the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem: and this city shall remain for ever.



But:



many thought He was going to do it



Mat 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.


Not so!


Luk 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:

Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.


Only problem is . . . king Saul is in the seat.

He needs to be overthrown first.

He is the present ruler.

But we know that he has been rejected because he rejected God. And David needs to come into the ruler’s position.

And the Rider starts riding.

Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

Rev 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Rev 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.


And He uses revealing . . .of the lies.

Eph 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.


Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Joh 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

Joh 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.


And those that love the darkness is trying their best to remove the light. But they forget . . .it is the Rider and His horse. The horse is the visible one and the Rider not . . .still . . . it is actually Him.


And the Word becomes powerful


Jer 23:29 Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces?


In the mouths of His children.

As this is the Love of God . . . not to do all the ruling by Himself . . .while we are watching . . . but to do it from out of us . . while we are experiencing . . .and making us . . .rulers of the earth . . .as He made Moses . . god of the earth.

Exo 4:15 And thou shalt speak unto him, and put words in his mouth: and I will be with thy mouth, and with his mouth, and will teach you what ye shall do.
Exo 4:16 And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shalt be to him instead of God.
Exo 4:17 And thou shalt take this rod in thine hand, wherewith thou shalt do signs.

And Moses "appeared" to have done many mighty deads

Deu 34:10 And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,
Deu 34:11 In all the signs and the wonders, which the LORD sent him to do in the land of Egypt to Pharaoh, and to all his servants, and to all his land,
Deu 34:12 And in all that mighty hand, and in all the great terror which Moses shewed in the sight of all Israel.

And as God is the same yesterday and today and having not changed to suddenly start doing things selfishly on His own . . .it will just happen the same way.

making us . . . rulers of the earth . . . and we know it is . . . .

God acting . . .BIG . . . but from out of us . .

so:
just . . .get ready.

because if you are not . . .obviously . . .it will be according to your faith . . .and you will just be watching . . . . as ruling is for the sons of God . . having grown up in Christ . . and not for His children. . . as the children . . .will just enjoy . . the movie.

Love . . Johan
 
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We know that in the last days God is coming to rule.
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Jesus (Who is God) already rules.

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth."

Having "all power and authority in heaven and earth" means He has been ruling since that time. (ca. 33AD)

And, JTLYK, these ARE the "last days." We've been in the "last days" for about 2000 years now. :)

Heb 1:1-2a God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son,...
:shrug



iakov the fool
(beaucoup dien cai dau)


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Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Jesus (Who is God) already rules.

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth."

Having "all power and authority in heaven and earth" means He has been ruling since that time. (ca. 33AD)

And, JTLYK, these ARE the "last days." We've been in the "last days" for about 2000 years now. :)

Heb 1:1-2a God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son,...
:shrug



iakov the fool
(beaucoup dien cai dau)


DISCLAIMER: By reading the words posted above, you have made a free will choice to expose yourself to the rantings of iakov the fool. The poster assumes no responsibility for any temporary, permanent or otherwise annoying manifestations of cognitive dysfunction that, in any manner, may allegedly be related to the reader’s deliberate act by which he/she has knowingly allowed the above rantings to enter into his/her consciousness. No warrantee is expressed or implied. Individual mileage may vary. And, no, I don't want to hear about it. No sniveling! Enjoy the rest of your life here and the eternal one to come.
Actually in "your understanding" . ..God has been ruling from the beginning . . .. but this event mentioned in scripture . . .is very special . . .and because we receive this Word from God . . .also as very special . . .there is actually more to this thread than just . . .God is ruling.

Love Johan
 
Sometimes your thoughts are confusing to me. Are you saying God made Moses 'god' of the earth?
Well . . .that is not what I am saying . . . that is what Scripture is saying. .
And it is to get revelation on God's love . . .to us . .in saying it
Love Johan
 
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Well . . .that is not what I am saying . . . that is what Scripture is saying. .
And it is to get revelation on God's love . . .to us . .in saying it
Love Johan

Exodus 4:10-17
But Moses said to the LORD, “Oh, my Lord, I am not eloquent, either in the past or since you have spoken to your servant, but I am slow of speech and of tongue.” Then the LORD said to him, “Who has made man's mouth? Who makes him mute, or deaf, or seeing, or blind? Is it not I, the LORD? Now therefore go, and I will be with your mouth and teach you what you shall speak.” But he said, “Oh, my Lord, please send someone else.” Then the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses and he said, “Is there not Aaron, your brother, the Levite? I know that he can speak well. Behold, he is coming out to meet you, and when he sees you, he will be glad in his heart. You shall speak to him and put the words in his mouth, and I will be with your mouth and with his mouth and will teach you both what to do. He shall speak for you to the people, and he shall be your mouth, and you shall be as God to him. And take in your hand this staff, with which you shall do the signs.”


God did not say Moses was "god". He said Moses would be "as God" to Aaron his brother. In other words, that God would speak to Moses, and Moses would then speak to Aaron.

I don't see how that is God making Moses "god" of the earth?
 
Actually in "your understanding" . ..God has been ruling from the beginning . . .. but this event mentioned in scripture . . .is very special . . .and because we receive this Word from God . . .also as very special . . .there is actually more to this thread than just . . .God is ruling.

Love Johan
Johan.
Please write in complete sentences as you have done in your profile.
I'm not able to understand what you mean by the pieces you post.

iakov the fool
 
Exodus 4:10-17
But Moses said to the LORD, “Oh, my Lord, I am not eloquent, either in the past or since you have spoken to your servant, but I am slow of speech and of tongue.” Then the LORD said to him, “Who has made man's mouth? Who makes him mute, or deaf, or seeing, or blind? Is it not I, the LORD? Now therefore go, and I will be with your mouth and teach you what you shall speak.” But he said, “Oh, my Lord, please send someone else.” Then the anger of the LORD was kindled against Moses and he said, “Is there not Aaron, your brother, the Levite? I know that he can speak well. Behold, he is coming out to meet you, and when he sees you, he will be glad in his heart. You shall speak to him and put the words in his mouth, and I will be with your mouth and with his mouth and will teach you both what to do. He shall speak for you to the people, and he shall be your mouth, and you shall be as God to him. And take in your hand this staff, with which you shall do the signs.”


God did not say Moses was "god". He said Moses would be "as God" to Aaron his brother. In other words, that God would speak to Moses, and Moses would then speak to Aaron.

I don't see how that is God making Moses "god" of the earth?

What happened here was that God was acting . . but only we know it . . . we have inside knowledge . . .to everybody else it was Moses acting . . .doing great things . .. and God . . . "hidden away"
And He made Moses appear as an almighty god . ..but only we know it was The Almighty.
And God was not doing this big wonders . . .from out of heaven . . .so that everyone could see Him and worship Him . . .no . . .He unselfishly allow Moses to be that one. . . .as a father experiences pride in his son . . . doing great things.

Love Johan
 
What happened here was that God was acting . . but only we know it . . . we have inside knowledge . . .to everybody else it was Moses acting . . .doing great things . .. and God . . . "hidden away"
And He made Moses appear as an almighty god . ..but only we know it was The Almighty.
And God was not doing this big wonders . . .from out of heaven . . .so that everyone could see Him and worship Him . . .no . . .He unselfishly allow Moses to be that one. . . .as a father experiences pride in his son . . . doing great things.

Love Johan

I understand what your saying. Moses was 'like' God unto his brother and Pharaoh, but he was not 'like a god' to them. There is a difference. When Moses spoke to his brother or Pharaoh, he was to preface it with "the LORD says....." in order that Pharoah knew it was the LORD - not Moses commanding.

Exodus 7:15-17
Go to Pharaoh in the morning, as he is going out to the water. Stand on the bank of the Nile to meet him, and take in your hand the staff that turned into a serpent. And you shall say to him, ‘The LORD, the God of the Hebrews, sent me to you, saying, “Let my people go, that they may serve me in the wilderness.” But so far, you have not obeyed. Thus says the LORD, “By this you shall know that I am the LORD: behold, with the staff that is in my hand I will strike the water that is in the Nile, and it shall turn into blood.


I only make that distinction because of this;

Isaiah 42:8
I am the LORD; that is my name;

my glory I give to no other,

nor my praise to carved idols.


God will never give His rightful glory to another, not even His servants. The things He did in Egypt was to show His glory and His glory alone. It was not to show His glory to just those who know Him, but to all of Egypt.

Exodus 14:18 - And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD, when I have gotten glory over Pharaoh, his chariots, and his horsemen.”
 
Johan.
Please write in complete sentences as you have done in your profile.
I'm not able to understand what you mean by the pieces you post.

iakov the fool

OK . . NO PROBLEM

Well . . .that is not what I am saying . . . that is what Scripture is saying. .
WELL THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM SAYING BUT THAT IS WHAT SCRIPTURE IS SAYING

And it is to get revelation on God's love . . .to us . .in saying it
AND IT IS TO GET REVELATION ON GOD'S LOVE TO US IN SAYING IT.

WELL LOOKING AT WHAT I SAID AND HOW IT LOOKS NOW I DO NOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
EXCEPT THAT YOU MAYBE THOUGHT THAT THERE WOULD BE A DIFFERENCE. BUT TO ME IT IS A TIME SAVER BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THE LANGUAGE RULES ETC. WHAT I THINK IS THE REAL PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT I AM NOT ENGLISH BUT AFRIKAANS AND THE WORDING OF THOUGHTS ARE A BIT DIFFERENT.

BUT OK TO HELP YOU IT IS NO PROBLEM. AND JUST REMIND ME AGAIN IF THERE IS ANOTHER PROBLEM.

LOVE JOHAN
 
I understand what your saying. Moses was 'like' God unto his brother and Pharaoh, but he was not 'like a god' to them. There is a difference. When Moses spoke to his brother or Pharaoh, he was to preface it with "the LORD says....." in order that Pharoah knew it was the LORD - not Moses commanding.

Exodus 7:15-17
Go to Pharaoh in the morning, as he is going out to the water. Stand on the bank of the Nile to meet him, and take in your hand the staff that turned into a serpent. And you shall say to him, ‘The LORD, the God of the Hebrews, sent me to you, saying, “Let my people go, that they may serve me in the wilderness.” But so far, you have not obeyed. Thus says the LORD, “By this you shall know that I am the LORD: behold, with the staff that is in my hand I will strike the water that is in the Nile, and it shall turn into blood.


I only make that distinction because of this;

Isaiah 42:8
I am the LORD; that is my name;

my glory I give to no other,

nor my praise to carved idols.


God will never give His rightful glory to another, not even His servants. The things He did in Egypt was to show His glory and His glory alone. It was not to show His glory to just those who know Him, but to all of Egypt.

Exodus 14:18 - And the Egyptians shall know that I am the LORD, when I have gotten glory over Pharaoh, his chariots, and his horsemen.”
YEP . . .I AGREE WITH YOU . . .SOME SEE THE ALMIGHTY . . . BEING ALL ALONE UP THERE . . .ENJOYING HIMSELF AND HOW BIG HE IS . . . AND YET . . . . .OTHERS SEE . . . .THE FATHER THAT IS LIVING FOR HIS CHILDREN'S SAKE . . .UNSELFISH . .. WITH ALL HIS ATTENTION AND WHAT HE IS DOING FOR . . . .THEIR SAKE ONLY. .. . .FEELING VERY GOOD WHEN THEY START TO BE LIKE HIM . . .GROWING UP IN HIS THINGS . . .AND DOING THE THINGS HE IS DOING

Eze 36:23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

Luk 10:17 The seventy disciples came back and joyously reported, "Lord, even the demons are submitting to us in your name!"
Luk 10:18 He told them, "I watched Satan falling from heaven like lightning.
Luk 10:19 Look! I have given you the authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to destroy all the enemy's power, and nothing will ever hurt you.
Luk 10:20 However, stop rejoicing because the spirits are submitting to you. Rather, rejoice because your names are written in heaven."

LOVE JOHAN
 
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WHAT I THINK IS THE REAL PROBLEM IS THE FACT THAT I AM NOT ENGLISH BUT AFRIKAANS AND THE WORDING OF THOUGHTS ARE A BIT DIFFERENT.

This is part of it. Some people seem to not be able to see what you are saying as a whole. Instead they are pulling out little parts they think are mistakes, but they aren't.

It's plain as daylight to me to see you are talking about how God let's us partake and participate in things that He really doesn't have to, how God didn't actually need Moses or any other person to do anything and it's only because of His love for us that He let's us be involved.

I know there is more to it all. If people could only consider that the words children and sons that you use might easily be replaced with multitude and bride then they would see these are not alien or wierd concepts.
 
This is part of it. Some people seem to not be able to see what you are saying as a whole. Instead they are pulling out little parts they think are mistakes, but they aren't.

It's plain as daylight to me to see you are talking about how God let's us partake and participate in things that He really doesn't have to, how God didn't actually need Moses or any other person to do anything and it's only because of His love for us that He let's us be involved.

I know there is more to it all. If people could only consider that the words children and sons that you use might easily be replaced with multitude and bride then they would see these are not alien or wierd concepts.
You see well brother. . . .It is good to witness to the Truth. But I will try my best to "correct" the little mistakes and then there is none left. Only one is left and that is the lack of revelation. This I emphasized from the beginning but there is still a running to the "little mistakes" Good that you see the Fatherhood of God taking His children into His Life. He is sharing it and therefor enjoying it with His children. And as we grow older in Him we start to partake in His ruling abilities which were obviously not revealed to us while we were children as it does not concern them but only the older ones. As you said it is not weird concepts just more personal as multitude and church are not as personal and that is not "alien" to God but to be accepted as His Love revealed in a higher dimension or rather in a more elderly relationship. This we should desire and not fight.

Rev 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Love Johan
 
God is ruling but his enemies have not yet been made Jesus's footstool.
About the weeds and who sows them Jesus stated "a enemy of mine did this" and the enemy Jesus spoke of was the devil. Those weeds will be pulled up at the end of the age. And at the sounding of the 7th or last trump of God the kingdom of this world shall become the kingdom of God and of His Christ.
Free will is allowed to reign for now. But Gods wrath about those continue to do evil has been announced. (proclaimed)
Rev 22:11 NIV
Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy."
 
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