How did Abraham know

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  1. Douglas Summers

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    Issac was the first begotten son according to God's promise, not Abraham's works. (Gen. 12:2-4; Gen. 15:1-6; 17:1-8; 15-19; 20-27) (Rom. 9:6-13) This is why so many misunderstand the calling and election of our God. It is of God who calls...not man who wills. (Rom. 9:16) (John 1:9-13) We do not worship God because we want to avoid Hell, but we worship God because of who He is. He is worthy to be praised....not appeased. When once we feared God we fear Him no more, for perfect love casteth out fear. (1 John 4:17-19)
     
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    I have no doubt Abraham new Gods voice.
     
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    He did.God spoke to me audibly one time, and. I had never heard His voice before but it was immediately obvious that this was God.

    I expect it was the same way, when God talked to people in the OT.
     
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    One of the five Illogical Arguments is one called an Argument From Silence,
    which reasons (illogically) that if something isn't clearly stated, then it's
    inferred from the silence that there was nothing to state.

    Regarding the scene depicted at Matt 17:1-4, a fellow student in one of my
    past Sunday school classes asked the instructor how Peter knew the names
    of the men with Jesus. Well; the answer was so simple that you'd never
    guess. Obviously Peter and the others overheard Jesus speak to Elijah and
    Moses by name; though the record doesn't say so.

    Ergo: I think it's pretty safe to assume that whenever God called out to
    Abraham, He announced Himself by name, e.g. Gen 17:1.


    NOTE: When studying the Bible, it's okay to apply what you know from the
    normal round of human experience, which is why I sincerely believe that
    only senior citizens have enough maturity to teach and/or discuss a very
    personal book like Genesis because youngsters really haven't been around
    the block enough to do it justice.

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    In some cases.
    I Timothy 4:12 KJV
    Let no man despise thy youth; but be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.

    Luke 2:43 kjv
    And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
    46 And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.
    47 And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers.

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    John 14:12 KJV
    Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

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  7. Niyoe'es:ah

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    Ishmael never lost his status as one of Abraham's biological sons (Gen
    25:9). However, he did lose his status as one of Abraham's legal sons and
    that is a very important aspect seeing as how Ishmael outranked Isaac in
    the birth order.

    The common laws of Abraham's day (e.g. the Code of Hammurabi and the
    laws of Lipit-Ishtar) entitled Ishmael to the lion's share of Abraham's estate
    because he was Abraham's firstborn son. However, there was a clause in the
    laws stipulating that if a slave-owner emancipated his child's in-slavery mother;
    then the mother and the child would lose any and all claims to a paternal
    property settlement with the slave-owner.

    The trick is: Abraham couldn't just send Hagar packing, nor sell her, for the
    clause to take effect; no, he had to emancipate her; which he did.

    "and sent her away" (Gen 21:14)

    The phrase "sent her away" is from the Hebrew word shalach (shaw-lakh')
    which is a versatile word that can be used of divorce as well as for the
    emancipation of slaves. In other words: Hagar wasn't banished as is
    commonly assumed; no, she was set free; and it's very important to nail
    that down in our thinking because if Abraham had merely banished Hagar,
    then her son Ishmael would have retained his legal status as Abraham's
    eldest son.

    I believe it's important to emphasize that Hagar and Ishmael were not cut
    loose because they were no longer worthy to live in Abraham's camp. No. It
    was only as a measure to expedite God's future plans for Isaac. Even if
    Sarah hadn't proposed the idea of emancipating Hagar, I suspect that God
    would have eventually required it so anyway so that it could later be said
    "Take now your son, your only son Isaac; etc." (Gen 22:2)

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    Some older mature people teach creation and evolution agree with each other....that's false doctrine.
     
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    Mat 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
    Mat 21:14 And the blind and the lame came to him in the temple; and he healed them.
    Mat 21:15 And when the chief priests and scribes saw the wonderful things that he did, and the children crying in the temple, and saying, Hosanna to the Son of David; they were sore displeased,
    Mat 21:16 And said unto him, Hearest thou what these say? And Jesus saith unto them, Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?
    This thread is closed
     
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