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How exactly is Divorce without cause and remarriage NOT ADULTERY?

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Luke 16:18
Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.


1Co 7:10


To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her
husband (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband),
and the husband should not divorce his wife.
 
I've never heard of divorce without cause as there has to be a reason why the two divorce.

1 Corinthians 7:10, 11 Jesus commands the woman not to leave her husband and if she does she should remain unmarried or be reconciled back to her husband, but in Malachi 2:10-16 the treachery that man commits against a woman which leads him to have an affair outside of the marriage or abuses the wife whether it be physical or emotional gives place to what was said by Moses in Deuteronomy 24:1-4 that if a woman is no longer pleasing to her husband then the husband should give his wife a written bill of divorcement and send her out of the house and this gives the woman the right to marry again, but she can never go back to her former husband if that marriage does not work out or her husband dies for now she is defiled to be with her first husband and this is an abomination to God.
 
The world is broken. God never meant for us to divorce. But many do. And many Christians, for a variety of reasons, divorce. It's not an unforgivable sin. And once a person divorces, and then remarries, I choose not to get my undies in a wad over that. Lots of gossips in the church. But bring up homosexuality and watch the condemnation pour out. And notice how many of the gossips join in the condemnation. Smack downs are needed.

I feel the same with divorce. People are broken. People divorce. It's a sad reality. But is the married couple better than the divorce couple if the two married are horrible to each other or the guy is watching porn each night? Or the woman flirts at work? Or ignores her husband in the bedroom? Staying married but not acting married isn't good either.

My daughter has divorced twice. The first after two years. The second after ten. The back story makes the divorces understandable. But it still saddens me. Yet, it is what it is. So I decided to love her where she's at with no judgment. I can't live other's lives. And my baggage is heavy enough for me.

Know someone divorced? Love them where they are at. Don't judge. You have your own issues.

Are you married? Then do it right. The world does revolve around you. Marriage isn't for your happiness. You spouse doesn't fulfill you. They are NOT your better half. It's not about romance. The honeymoon period is short lived. Then life takes over. Think more highly of your spouse than you do yourself. You are NOT entitled to happiness. Love is a choice. Choose love. We're all a tad sloppy at life.

Husbands, love your wife as Christ loved the church. Don't give me the nonsense that she has to earn it. Love is a choice and NOT a feeling. And it's commanded by God. So men, you've no excuse.

Wives, RESPECT your husbands as unto the Lord. And don't whine that he has to earn it. NO He DOESN'T. Just do it. That is your call before God. It's commanded.

Many married couples don't do marriage right. The husband don't love as they are commanded and wives disrespect their husbands. That folks is WORSE than divorce. Both are sin. And it's my guess that many here who would be quick to condemn divorce are sinning in their own marriages.

We are all broken.
 
I've never heard of divorce without cause as there has to be a reason why the two divorce.

1 Corinthians 7:10, 11 Jesus commands the woman not to leave her husband and if she does she should remain unmarried or be reconciled back to her husband, but in Malachi 2:10-16 the treachery that man commits against a woman which leads him to have an affair outside of the marriage or abuses the wife whether it be physical or emotional gives place to what was said by Moses in Deuteronomy 24:1-4 that if a woman is no longer pleasing to her husband then the husband should give his wife a written bill of divorcement and send her out of the house and this gives the woman the right to marry again, but she can never go back to her former husband if that marriage does not work out or her husband dies for now she is defiled to be with her first husband and this is an abomination to God.

I believer the gentleman meant the Biblical cause: Matt.19:9; Matt.5:32.

To be deep in the scripture is to cease being Catholic, Protestant (denominational) Jewish and Calvinist.
Rom.16:16
 
I've never heard of divorce without cause as there has to be a reason why the two divorce.

1 Corinthians 7:10, 11 Jesus commands the woman not to leave her husband and if she does she should remain unmarried or be reconciled back to her husband, but in Malachi 2:10-16 the treachery that man commits against a woman which leads him to have an affair outside of the marriage or abuses the wife whether it be physical or emotional gives place to what was said by Moses in Deuteronomy 24:1-4 that if a woman is no longer pleasing to her husband then the husband should give his wife a written bill of divorcement and send her out of the house and this gives the woman the right to marry again, but she can never go back to her former husband if that marriage does not work out or her husband dies for now she is defiled to be with her first husband and this is an abomination to God.

When I said without cause, I should have clarified that I was referring to the only biblical reason that God allows for divorce.


Mat 5:31 "It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.'

Mat 5:32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.


Yes, Before they had the holy spirit leading them and guiding them, "Because of the hardness of their hearts" Moses allowed them to divorce, but Jesus who brought the new covenant straightened out their theology and dealt specifically with that issue.


Mark 10:2 And Pharisees came up and in order to test him asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?"
Mark 10:3 He answered them, "What did Moses command you?"
Mar 10:4 They said, "Moses allowed a man to write a certificate of divorce and to send her away."
Mar 10:5 And Jesus said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment.
Mar 10:6 But from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female.'
Mar 10:7 'Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife,
Mar 10:8 and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two but one flesh.
Mar 10:9 What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate."
Mar 10:10 And in the house the disciples asked him again about this matter.
Mar 10:11 And he said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her,
Mar 10:12 and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."

Yes, Malachi 2:14 Even in the old testament, even though they were allowed to Divorce; God is condemning it even back then and referring to how Divorcing your wife or "putting her away" is treating the wife of their youth Treacherously by being faithless to her.
 
When I said without cause, I should have clarified that I was referring to the only biblical reason that God allows for divorce.


Mat 5:31 "It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.'

Mat 5:32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.


Yes, Before they had the holy spirit leading them and guiding them, "Because of the hardness of their hearts" Moses allowed them to divorce, but Jesus who brought the new covenant straightened out their theology and dealt specifically with that issue.


Mark 10:2 And Pharisees came up and in order to test him asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?"
Mark 10:3 He answered them, "What did Moses command you?"
Mar 10:4 They said, "Moses allowed a man to write a certificate of divorce and to send her away."
Mar 10:5 And Jesus said to them, "Because of your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment.
Mar 10:6 But from the beginning of creation, 'God made them male and female.'
Mar 10:7 'Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife,
Mar 10:8 and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two but one flesh.
Mar 10:9 What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate."
Mar 10:10 And in the house the disciples asked him again about this matter.
Mar 10:11 And he said to them, "Whoever divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery against her,
Mar 10:12 and if she divorces her husband and marries another, she commits adultery."

Yes, Malachi 2:14 Even in the old testament, even though they were allowed to Divorce; God is condemning it even back then and referring to how Divorcing your wife or "putting her away" is treating the wife of their youth Treacherously by being faithless to her.

Does God permit divorce; no he does not for what God has joined together as one flesh let no man separate it, Matthew 19:6. Not every marriage is joined together by God as one flesh and this is why many divorce, thus the laws of a bill of divorcement.

Deuteronomy 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. 2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife. 3 And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife; 4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.
 
Luke 16:18
Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.


1Co 7:10


To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her
husband (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband),
and the husband should not divorce his wife.

We're not under the law of the Jews.
Try this scenario on and see what you would think a woman to do.

A woman is married to a wicked evil savage man who has no conscience and is a sadist. He beats her regularly. He's put her in the hospital multiple times with her bones broken. Once, even her jaw. Everytime a man beats his wife or any woman in his life, he's trying to deliver two messages being his masculine power is greater than her female ability to withstand the blows. Or throw back punches with as great a force in self defense.
One, he hates her. Even though afterward he'll swear he'll never do it again. Brings her gifts that do nothing to remove the cast that is to be there for 8 more weeks. Or the wires that hold her jaw shut so that her meals are served through a straw. He tells her, " I love you baby. I'm sorry. It won't happen again. (Even though "again" has happened for years now) It's just, when you........."

And then her abuser proceeds after that vacant short word salad of contrition, to tell her why she deserved his rage to unfold in her face.Punch after punch. Kick after kick.

And when his hands got sore from smashing her face, and his steel toed boots started to hurt him as he kicked her in her ribs after she fell, when he's still not finished showing her how much he "loves" her , he picks up objects to use as weapons upon her.

And then he cleans her up. He takes her clothes off because she's now unconscious. He redresses her and then drags her down the steps behind the house, lays her on the snow in the cold night, after having turned the porch light off so that the neighbors would not see him throw the kitchen trashcan's opened bag of garbage onto her. And those long back stairs.

In the warmth of that two story home, he enters and closes the door and calls 911. He delivers a recorded Oscar worthy performance as to how his dear wife had gone to throw out the trash in the cans in the alley behind the house, but slipped on the ice at the top of the stair. He says he didn't want to touch her because there is a lot of blood and he fears he may ..........hurt her.

Help arrives but her jaw is broken and even when her life is saved by surgeons working for hours she cannot say what happened in her own words. And as that "dear husband who called 911 just in time", as the Doctor reported, watches her speak to the police who arrived days later to her hospital room when her physician cleared her as well enough to write to them what happened. Being her jaw was wired shut.

The second thing such "I love you baby" is actually telling that wife? I want to kill you.
Every time a woman is beaten by someone in her life who says they love her first, that preface of those three vulgar word lies is followed by the violence that speaks of himself. " I love you ....who I beat until you stop screaming for me to stop." I love you......as your body flops limply on the end of my foot and falls back, your skull thudding on our kitchen floor". I love .....to try to kill you every time I get mad.


Tell me, do you think God would be upset if that woman were to live and grow strong enough to run to a divorce?
 
Are you unaware of the scripture that I posted that does so?
care to enlighten again ? jesus said what GOD has joined ..i asked how many marriages are GOD joined how many was prayed over holy spirit led.. while i do not advocate divorce and recommend trying to work out... there are some marriages that have never been and was never of GOD....
 
yes BUTTTTTTTTTT how many marriages has been joined together By God ? how many marriages has been prayed over and led by GOD? Divorce is the unpardonable sin correct?

Many have been joined by God and also prayed over, but if Christ is not the center of the marriage then it can fall apart. Unpardonable, no, forgivable, yes.
 
care to enlighten again ? jesus said what GOD has joined ..i asked how many marriages are GOD joined how many was prayed over holy spirit led.. while i do not advocate divorce and recommend trying to work out... there are some marriages that have never been and was never of GOD....
Actually what you said can be found by scrolling up. And it was to those remarks I addressed the Biblical passage that corrected your error.

I'll assist. You actually said:
yes BUTTTTTTTTTT how many marriages has been joined together By God ? how many marriages has been prayed over and led by GOD? Divorce is the unpardonable sin correct?

It was to that last statement about the unpardonable sin that my correction and scripture pertained.
 
Did you divorce? Or did you simply leave, thank God you were able, :hugand never look back?
The last straw was when he tried to chock me out. I waited till he went to work and called my sister to come and get me. Then I moved back to PA and left him in Texas. It was a few months later that I filed for divorce, but was ten years later that I found the man God truly wanted me to be with and will celebrate our 20th anniversary Jan 3.
 
I think it would be perfectly fine for that woman, to either separate from her Husband or divorce him. I do not believe for one second that God would want any of his children living in that kind of a situation, But That's not really the question in the original post.
The question in the first post was poorly worded. Without cause? Divorce does not occur without cause.
The question in the first posting that followed the thread title that asked a general question though worded poorly was:
Luke 16:18
Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.


1Co 7:10

To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her
husband (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband),
and the husband should not divorce his wife.

Going with the thread title and reworded to make the proper point, how exactly is divorce with cause and remarriage not adultery?

My responding post presented a hypothetical cause, chronic vicious spousal abuse, though based on someone's actual marriage experience, and then asked, if that abuse would be grounds for divorce? When in scripture cause for divorce are outlined as permissible. Even though remarriage while that spouse is still alive is prohibited in many cases.
 
The original post, wasn't who can justify there Divorce, but it was more along the lines of:
What Paul writes In 1 Corinthians 7: 10-16
I certainly never intended to imply that I even think divorce is a sin, but I do think adultery is and I'm pretty sure I have the full weight of the bible supporting me on that. So:

1Co 7:10 To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her husband
1Co 7:11 (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband), and the husband should not divorce his wife.

So according to that Divorce is okay, in situations where it is necessary, right?

1Co 7:12 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her.
1Co 7:13 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him.

So, if a woman has divorced her husband and gone and gotten remarried, Exactly how are is she not the unbelieving spouse that has departed? Because the believing spouse will remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. Right?
 
The last straw was when he tried to chock me out. I waited till he went to work and called my sister to come and get me. Then I moved back to PA and left him in Texas. It was a few months later that I filed for divorce, but was ten years later that I found the man God truly wanted me to be with and will celebrate our 20th anniversary Jan 3.
Praise GOD! :boing:hug I wish I could hug you in real life. Brilliant!
I think when we're in really bad relationships, women tend to hold on because they think if they just work at the relationship it will get better. A wise woman once said, when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

I was watching a documentary about the OJ Simpson case last year. Nicole Brown was dating OJ when he was still married to his first wife. They weren't separated , they still lived as husband and wife. This Nicole knew.
One day Nicole showed up at a friends and he noticed she was bruised. OJ did it, she said. He got mad.
Then , to apologize, he bought her a new car. And she stayed. Then she married him.

When someone shows you who they are the first time, believe them. Or it could cost a life.
God have mercy.
 
if Christ is not the full center chances are it was not prayed about or God ordained did paul not write Husbands love your wife like Christ loves the Church? my wife was saved when she got married at 17 i was 23 and was by far a saint ..so no our marriage was not God joined.. things are different now there was several times he had the right to leave me .but she stayed the course some 30 odd years latter . were still together and in Church

It's apparent that God joined the two of you together from the beginning. Even though the road was ruff at first I would say you have a wife that kept praying for you as look at the both of you now. I could only assume Christ is the center of your marriage now.
 
The original post, wasn't who can justify there Divorce, but it was more along the lines of:
What Paul writes In 1 Corinthians 7: 10-16
I certainly never intended to imply that I even think divorce is a sin, but I do think adultery is and I'm pretty sure I have the full weight of the bible supporting me on that. So:

1Co 7:10 To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her husband
1Co 7:11 (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband), and the husband should not divorce his wife.

So according to that Divorce is okay, in situations where it is necessary, right?

1Co 7:12 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her.
1Co 7:13 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him.

So, if a woman has divorced her husband and gone and gotten remarried, Exactly how are is she not the unbelieving spouse that has departed? Because the believing spouse will remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. Right?

God forgives all sins and transgressions save blasphemy of his holy spirit.
With regard to 1 Corinthians 7:10, perhaps read the entire chapter and particularly verse 1. Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

Then perhaps read verse 4, and recall the scenario I shared earlier. 4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.

The actual couple I shared the story of in that scenario were Christian.
The husband believed he had ownership of his wife, due to that verse.

I think also that it is important to remember Paul was first a Pharisee. A highly educated individual in the law of God. When he wrote his letters to the church in Corinth the atmosphere in the region was hedonistic. Houses of ill repute were in the region. Prostitution, men who clad themselves as women, "Eunuchs", whether born or castrated, served those cross purposes. As well as did biological women.

Many of Paul's epistles (letters) were instruction to the churches he started in the Roman empire and managed through those letters. Going from the law of God in the OT and reiterating new rules under the protocol of those laws. Which is why many pastors in today's churches invoke certain Pauline epistles in order to manage their own flocks.


Here’s a high-level idea of what each pastoral epistle is about:

  • 1 Timothy. This is Paul’s guide to godliness and sound teaching for the young pastor Timothy at Ephesus.
  • 2 Timothy. Paul’s death is drawing near, and he charges Timothy to carry on his gospel work.
  • Titus. Paul had left Titus at Crete to set up order in the churches there. Now he writes Titus instructions for leading a counter-cultural church.
Here’s the list of Paul’s epistles to churches:

  • Romans. Paul explains how the gospel works and how to respond. Paul wrote this letter before he had visited the Roman church.
  • 1 Corinthians. In 55 A.D., Paul admonished the local church that he had founded in Corinth.
  • 2 Corinthians. Come 56 A.D., the Corinthian church had escalated and then resolved their conflict with Paul. Second Corinthians is Paul’s a letter of forgiveness and reconciliation.
  • Galatians. Someone had misled the churches of Galatia—resubjecting them to the Law of Moses and devaluing God’s grace. Paul writes the Galatians an aggressive letter to set them straight on their freedom in Christ.
  • Ephesians. Paul outlines doctrines of grace, peace, and salvation, and then instructs the church to walk in a manner worthy of Jesus Christ.
  • Philippians. Even though he’s suffering in prison, Paul finds joy in Christ. He writes to the church at Philippi urging them to take on a Christlike attitude.
  • Colossians. This letter explains to the church at Colossae who they are in Christ.
  • 1 Thessalonians. The church of Thessalonica is setting a great example for other churches, even though they’re being persecuted for their faith. Paul encourages them to “excel still more.”
  • 2 Thessalonians. The affliction just won’t let up on the Thessalonian church, so Paul coaches them on standing firm until Jesus’ return.

To answer your question about divorce where it is necessary? And the individual in the marriage would know in personal experience their level of endurance in a marriage that has grown so dysfunctional as to warrant thinking of divorce, which should only occur if one's life is in danger if they stay, if they're being physically assaulted in the relationship, if there is adultery, which is showing the spouse being chceated on that their spouse does not want them anymore and that is why they seek after others for their sexual gratification, which is a very deep betrayal and sin, or if that spouse is offensive to their children, if there are any in the marriage. And any number of other issues that can cause one to consider leaving the marriage.
It's personal.

And failing all else if it is irreconcilable in the differences there. God forgives. And the divorced person, as dear for_his_glory shared, are able to remarry. Paul's advice concerning not remarrying should be considered in the context of verse 1 in 1 Corinthians chapter 7. And even Jesus in Matthew 19:9 was speaking to the Jews who's ordinances concerning marriage and divorce were grounded in the old testament.
"And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

However, in 1 Corinthians 7 another ground for divorce is if one is married to an unbeliever. Which is actually the relationship the woman I told you about in the prior abuse scenario was married to. Because an actual Christian does not abuse their spouse. They honor them as God tells us to.
1 Corinthians 7:15
But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace.



If you are asking on a personal level, and I'm just throwing this out there, only the person in such a situation knows what they're going through. If the pains of remaining married outweigh the joys, and no reconciliation or marriage counsel seems possible or effective, then that spouse so abused, and there are ways to be abused besides physically.
In the scenario I shared that abuse of the wife started when they were dating. Verbal abuse. Which necessarily imparts emotional and mental abuse. It escalated after the "I Do", because then she was his property. Or so he thought.
 
Luke 16:18
Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries a woman divorced from her husband commits adultery.


1Co 7:10


To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her
husband (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband),
and the husband should not divorce his wife.
I know of no sin that can not be forgiven.....except to deny Christ. People who claim Christ but prowl around in the world of Satan's principles are not to be fellowship with....or even eat with. (1 Cor. 5:1-13) (2 Cor. 2:1-13)
 
The original post, wasn't who can justify there Divorce, but it was more along the lines of:
What Paul writes In 1 Corinthians 7: 10-16
I certainly never intended to imply that I even think divorce is a sin, but I do think adultery is and I'm pretty sure I have the full weight of the bible supporting me on that. So:

1Co 7:10 To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord): the wife should not separate from her husband
1Co 7:11 (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband), and the husband should not divorce his wife.

So according to that Divorce is okay, in situations where it is necessary, right?

1Co 7:12 To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her.
1Co 7:13 If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him.

So, if a woman has divorced her husband and gone and gotten remarried, Exactly how are is she not the unbelieving spouse that has departed? Because the believing spouse will remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. Right?

You have to go back to 1 Corinthians 7:1-16 to understand that of what is being said in verses 12 and 13.This is talking about fornication which is a sin and that it is better to be married that you sin not and that being submissive one to another as this submission also carries over to the bed that neither should deprive one another unless it is a mutual consent, 1 Corinthians 7:5. The principles for the married believer are explained in 1 Corinthians 7:10-16. As long as there is love and faithfulness the two should never depart from each other nor stray away for lust of the flesh.
 
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