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When Christ was on Earth and He and His disciples were walking through Israel, Their main agenda was to teach about the benefits of the Kingdom of Heaven and how to attain citizenship there. Christ came as an Ambassador to His Father, and as He was on Earth, The Fullness of The Godhead dwelt upon Him in His bodily form. And so God was walking about Israel with Their disciples and teaching and sharing. When the Disciples were alone with God, God spoke to them about the things which pertain to Everlasting and Everlasting. They learned the mysteries of the Universe and how God had set all things. Since the disciples were already versed in the Creation, God clarified and broadened and secured their knowledge.

God's time with His disciples lasted for about 3 and a half years, so I read. And during these 3 and a half years, God and His disciples may have never been 1 day apart from each other. And so they formed a really close bond. They may have been as 'bond-servants'. They were bonded to Him..

After Jesus had ascended on High, The Day of Pentecost approached and they waited for The Promise of God to arrive. Jesus had promised them that the Power from on High would come and empower them so that they could go into the 'Gentile' world to preach and teach and baptize in The Name of The Father and of The Son and of The Holy Spirit and to remind them of what they had heard from Him.

And so after the Holy Spirit came upon them and after more than 3,000 persons were converted that day, a commune of sorts was made. They all sold what they owned and brought it before the Apostles' feet so as to have a common commune. And during these times, noone suffered from 'want'. They all had what was needed.

It was a close-knitted family with Christ as their main union. They all shared the same heart, the same mind, the same Spirit. From these commune days, The Apostles went and furthered the Word which they had received into different places.

Modern day Middle East, the Arab World, was the first place Church was established. The Apostle Paul built Churches in Syria, in Turkey, in Greece and in many other Arab countries. In Antioch, Syria, they began to be called Christians. And not only Paul but all the other Apostles also went and established Churches. And the other Apostles also went and established Churches. Thomas is supposedly the Patron to India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_the_Apostle

The Apostle Jude supposedly went to Armenia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_the_Apostle
The Apostle Bartholomew supposedly went to India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomew_the_Apostle
The Apostle Andrew supposedly went to Georgia, Cyprus, Malta, Romania, Kiev Rus and its Ukrainian and Russian Successors, Scotland and Spain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_the_Apostle

These are just a few...

John and Mary may have stayed around Israel seeing that John had taken Mary into his home. Jesus had said, 'Women, here is thy son' and to John He said, 'Here is thy mother'.

From such a wonderfully loving group of believers to modern day chaos is how things have changed.
 
Their main agenda was to teach about the benefits of the Kingdom of Heaven and how to attain citizenship there. Christ came as an Ambassador to His Father,
Jesus came to be crucified and to rise again from death, thereby abolishing death and bringing life and immortality to light through the gospel. (2Ti 1:10)
11 of the 12 were selected to teach others who would teach others who would teach others.... (2Ti 2:2)
One was selected to betray Jesus.

iakov the fool
 
When Christ was on Earth and He and His disciples were walking through Israel, Their main agenda was to teach about the benefits of the Kingdom of Heaven and how to attain citizenship there. Christ came as an Ambassador to His Father, and as He was on Earth, The Fullness of The Godhead dwelt upon Him in His bodily form. And so God was walking about Israel with Their disciples and teaching and sharing. When the Disciples were alone with God, God spoke to them about the things which pertain to Everlasting and Everlasting. They learned the mysteries of the Universe and how God had set all things. Since the disciples were already versed in the Creation, God clarified and broadened and secured their knowledge.

God's time with His disciples lasted for about 3 and a half years, so I read. And during these 3 and a half years, God and His disciples may have never been 1 day apart from each other. And so they formed a really close bond. They may have been as 'bond-servants'. They were bonded to Him..

After Jesus had ascended on High, The Day of Pentecost approached and they waited for The Promise of God to arrive. Jesus had promised them that the Power from on High would come and empower them so that they could go into the 'Gentile' world to preach and teach and baptize in The Name of The Father and of The Son and of The Holy Spirit and to remind them of what they had heard from Him.

And so after the Holy Spirit came upon them and after more than 3,000 persons were converted that day, a commune of sorts was made. They all sold what they owned and brought it before the Apostles' feet so as to have a common commune. And during these times, noone suffered from 'want'. They all had what was needed.

It was a close-knitted family with Christ as their main union. They all shared the same heart, the same mind, the same Spirit. From these commune days, The Apostles went and furthered the Word which they had received into different places.

Modern day Middle East, the Arab World, was the first place Church was established. The Apostle Paul built Churches in Syria, in Turkey, in Greece and in many other Arab countries. In Antioch, Syria, they began to be called Christians. And not only Paul but all the other Apostles also went and established Churches. And the other Apostles also went and established Churches. Thomas is supposedly the Patron to India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_the_Apostle

The Apostle Jude supposedly went to Armenia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_the_Apostle
The Apostle Bartholomew supposedly went to India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomew_the_Apostle
The Apostle Andrew supposedly went to Georgia, Cyprus, Malta, Romania, Kiev Rus and its Ukrainian and Russian Successors, Scotland and Spain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_the_Apostle

These are just a few...

John and Mary may have stayed around Israel seeing that John had taken Mary into his home. Jesus had said, 'Women, here is thy son' and to John He said, 'Here is thy mother'.

From such a wonderfully loving group of believers to modern day chaos is how things have changed.
The point or topic for discussion is a little ambiguous or it is eluding me. Could you please clarify what it is?
 
From such a wonderfully loving group of believers to modern day chaos is how things have changed.

misbehaved11,

Not all was lovey, dovey, hunky dory with the apostles in the early church. Is Gal 2:11-14 (NIV) in your Bible? It reads,

'When Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. 12For prior to the coming of certain men from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he began to withdraw and hold himself aloof, fearing the party of the circumcision. 13The rest of the Jews joined him in hypocrisy, with the result that even Barnabas was carried away by their hypocrisy. 14But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in the presence of all, “If you, being a Jew, live like the Gentiles and not like the Jews, how is it that you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews?'​

Could your statement be a tad imbalanced?

Oz
 
Not all was lovey, dovey, hunky dory with the apostles in the early church.

Yearly Easter celebration, when? Lunar or solar. Based on the day of the week or day of the month???

Talk about lovey dovey in the early church. Those guys were brutal.
 
The OP Topic is about "modern day chaos" from historic 'unity'
From such a wonderfully loving group of believers to modern day chaos is how things have changed.

You made a topical and valid counter point of debate to the OP that Paul and Peter were disagreeing over who Christians should celebrate meals with (Gentiles or not):
Not all was lovey, dovey, hunky dory with the apostles in the early church. Is Gal 2:11-14 (NIV)

I made a topical and valid counter point to the OP that the early church was disagreeing over when to celebrate Easter.
Yearly Easter celebration, when? Lunar or solar. Based on the day of the week or day of the month???

Yet you called my point:
Another red herring fallacy.

Thus you are committing the logical fallacy of a "category error". If my point was a 'red herring' then so was yours. But the fact is, both our points were topical and true.

What are you talking about?
When to celebrate Easter:
"During the first several centuries of the church, Eastern Christians celebrated Easter on Passover. The West always celebrated Easter on a Sunday. At the 325 Council of Nicea, the Eastern practice was condemned, thereby marking another divergence. By the 4th century, Easter was being celebrated on different Sundays all over Christendom."

https://graceuniversity.edu/iip/2011/08/11-08-20-2/
 
When Christ was on Earth and He and His disciples were walking through Israel, Their main agenda was to teach about the benefits of the Kingdom of Heaven and how to attain citizenship there. Christ came as an Ambassador to His Father, and as He was on Earth, The Fullness of The Godhead dwelt upon Him in His bodily form. And so God was walking about Israel with Their disciples and teaching and sharing. When the Disciples were alone with God, God spoke to them about the things which pertain to Everlasting and Everlasting. They learned the mysteries of the Universe and how God had set all things. Since the disciples were already versed in the Creation, God clarified and broadened and secured their knowledge.

God's time with His disciples lasted for about 3 and a half years, so I read. And during these 3 and a half years, God and His disciples may have never been 1 day apart from each other. And so they formed a really close bond. They may have been as 'bond-servants'. They were bonded to Him..

After Jesus had ascended on High, The Day of Pentecost approached and they waited for The Promise of God to arrive. Jesus had promised them that the Power from on High would come and empower them so that they could go into the 'Gentile' world to preach and teach and baptize in The Name of The Father and of The Son and of The Holy Spirit and to remind them of what they had heard from Him.

And so after the Holy Spirit came upon them and after more than 3,000 persons were converted that day, a commune of sorts was made. They all sold what they owned and brought it before the Apostles' feet so as to have a common commune. And during these times, noone suffered from 'want'. They all had what was needed.

It was a close-knitted family with Christ as their main union. They all shared the same heart, the same mind, the same Spirit. From these commune days, The Apostles went and furthered the Word which they had received into different places.

Modern day Middle East, the Arab World, was the first place Church was established. The Apostle Paul built Churches in Syria, in Turkey, in Greece and in many other Arab countries. In Antioch, Syria, they began to be called Christians. And not only Paul but all the other Apostles also went and established Churches. And the other Apostles also went and established Churches. Thomas is supposedly the Patron to India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_the_Apostle

The Apostle Jude supposedly went to Armenia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_the_Apostle
The Apostle Bartholomew supposedly went to India. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomew_the_Apostle
The Apostle Andrew supposedly went to Georgia, Cyprus, Malta, Romania, Kiev Rus and its Ukrainian and Russian Successors, Scotland and Spain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_the_Apostle

These are just a few...

John and Mary may have stayed around Israel seeing that John had taken Mary into his home. Jesus had said, 'Women, here is thy son' and to John He said, 'Here is thy mother'.

From such a wonderfully loving group of believers to modern day chaos is how things have changed.

Good thoughts but with due respect there are some things you may have missed in the scripture.
1) it wasn't as lovey dovey as you suppose, Jesus own family thought he was crazy.
They said in one place "he is beside himself."
Makes for a good love story but things were different than most propose, not trying to say you haven't bought out some good points.
James the (half) brother of Jesus and the pastor of the big penecostal church in Jerusalem had his issues.
Point being the bible in the natural is not about a love affair, it's spiritual in nature and that is where you will find the greatest love affair that has ever existed.
 
Galatians 6:11-12 (NASB) See with what large letters I am writing to you with my own hand. Those who desire to make a good showing in the flesh try to compel you to be circumcised, simply so that they will not be persecuted for the cross of Christ.

They argued over another man's foreskin, of all things.
 
The OP Topic is about "modern day chaos" from historic 'unity'

You made a topical and valid counter point of debate to the OP that Paul and Peter were disagreeing over who Christians should celebrate meals with (Gentiles or not):


I made a topical and valid counter point to the OP that the early church was disagreeing over when to celebrate Easter.


Yet you called my point:


Thus you are committing the logical fallacy of a "category error". If my point was a 'red herring' then so was yours. But the fact is, both our points were topical and true.


When to celebrate Easter:
"During the first several centuries of the church, Eastern Christians celebrated Easter on Passover. The West always celebrated Easter on a Sunday. At the 325 Council of Nicea, the Eastern practice was condemned, thereby marking another divergence. By the 4th century, Easter was being celebrated on different Sundays all over Christendom."

https://graceuniversity.edu/iip/2011/08/11-08-20-2/
The brevity of your post left me at a loss as to your meaning.
 
John and Mary may have stayed around Israel seeing that John had taken Mary into his home. Jesus had said, 'Women, here is thy son' and to John He said, 'Here is thy mother'.

At some point, John went to Ephesus -- maybe Mary had passed away by then.
Then he went to Patmos -- and I think back to Ephesus
 
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