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Jethro Bodine said:
Then you realized he couldn't have gotten that handsome all of a sudden and realized it was me. :lol

To avoid future confusion I will be reverting back to my standard avatar soon.
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Please do. I can normally tell who has posted by their avatar and when it's changed I gets confused. Mind you that's not difficult I'm easily confused.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
Which can not possibly be true since getting marriage is in no way shape or form a declaration of being a believer. It's a vow to be joined together in accordance with the male and femaleness God instituted. That's all.
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If you are not a believer then it's irrelevant whether God instituted it or not. All you are doing is getting married under the institution of the government and its requirements to be known as husband and wife.
 
Wrg1405 said:
If you are not a believer then it's irrelevant whether God instituted it or not. All you are doing is getting married under the institution of the government and its requirements to be known as husband and wife.
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But it's not irrelevant in regard to adultery.
God doesn't check to see if you're a Christian when it comes to adultery.
Even unbelievers who get married are guilty of adultery when they stray.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
But it's not irrelevant in regard to adultery.
God doesn't check to see if you're a Christian when it comes to adultery.
Even unbelievers who get married are guilty of adultery when they stray.
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I'm not asking about adultery and I agree with what you are saying.

Just asking your thoughts when are a husband and wife considered as being married in the eyes of God. When vows are taken or when they become one flesh? Regardless of being believers or not.
 
Jethro Bodine said:
Which can not possibly be true since getting marriage is in no way shape or form a declaration of being a believer. It's a vow to be joined together in accordance with the male and femaleness God instituted. That's all.
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Can't write now.
What is not true?
When taking a vow before God all stated must be true or the vow is not valid.

A marriage becomes a marriage when the priest or pastor declares it.

What God has joined together, let no man put assunder refers to both marriage AND the individual couple.
This is why divorce is not allowed, it would be man putting assunder.. Breaking what God has joined, breaking the oath.

Wondering
PS nice avatar.
 
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Wrg1405 said:
I'm not asking about adultery and I agree with what you are saying.

Just asking your thoughts when are a husband and wife considered as being married in the eyes of God. When vows are taken or when they become one flesh? Regardless of being believers or not.
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You become one flesh at the taking of the oath with God present as a witness.
What if you could never consumate the marriage??
It's still a marriage.
 
wondering said:
You become one flesh at the taking of the oath with God present as a witness.
What if you could never consumate the marriage??
It's still a marriage.
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Ok I get what you are saying.

I do beleive that marriage occurrs when two people make a commitment, a commitment to leave and cleave with a view to spending the rest of their lives with each other, making a life long commitment.

Having sex does not constitute marriage.

As we know that Joseph did not sleep with Mary but took her as his wife.

Matthew 1:24-25

Then Joseph, being aroused from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord commanded him and took to him his wife, and did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son. And he called His name Jesus.

However I can't understand where you are coming from "You become one flesh at the taking of the oath with God present as a witness"

So is God present regardless of whether being believers or not?

If the marriage vows are conducted with a disregard God (i.e a civil ceremony) and therefore to the couple taking those vows God does not exist, is he present as a witness? If a person doesn't want God in their lives does he say "Ok that's your choice and I will leave you with that choice?

People who are not believers can get marriage in church and make vows with disregard to God. Is God present as a witness?

If he is not then then are the people married?
 
Jethro Bodine said:
But it's not irrelevant in regard to adultery.
God doesn't check to see if you're a Christian when it comes to adultery.
Even unbelievers who get married are guilty of adultery when they stray.
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Hey, who's that in the picture?
And what did you do to Anton?
And why are you naked?
What am I missing here?
 
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