I am buying a gun today!

[Lee100]

I was planning to buy a gun today. I have nothing to defend myself with.
What kind of gun should I get. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I was thinking on a desert eagle.

 

[Photosmith]

One of the best things you can get from Proverbs is to seek wise counsel. If you feel firearm ownership is right for you, I would suggest searching for a local shooting range, not just a gun store. Here in Phoenix, AZ we've got a couple large shooting ranges which don't just sell guns, they offer rentals, training, and the kind of hands-on help that you can't and won't get from a pawn shop or standard gun store. At least two of the ranges here in Phoenix are even used by local law enforcement for their own training classes. You wouldn't buy a car without learning how to drive it without killing yourself or someone else, so I would suggest using a similar plan with a gun - get the training, get practice, and seek wise counsel on what is right for you.

 

[Lee100]

Thank you Photosmith
I will do more research on the net and prayer, seeking God before I buy a gun. I do have a local shooting range, I will be sure to visit it. Thanks so much for your post. Greatly appreciated.

 

[GojuBrian]

I was planning to buy a gun today. I have nothing to defend myself with.
What kind of gun should I get. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I was thinking on a desert eagle.

Photosmith is right on!!!

Safety is the #1 concern when it comes to firearms. I'm sure you will be a responsible gunowner and heed the excellent advice photosmith has given.

I can answer any questions you have about firearms or safety. Here's a short rundown of safety rules.

1.Treat every gun as if it were loaded.
2. Do not point at anything you don't wish to destroy.
3. Never touch the trigger until you are ready to fire.
4. Treat every gun as if it were loaded!


For home defense I would recommend a revolver or shotgun. I prefer a shotgun if you have someone else there to dial 911, otherwise a revolver that can be operated with one hand.
Get a good quality firearm. Safety is not something you want to skimp on.

As for the desert eagle,well, I had a desert baby eagle in .40cal that was flawless. I wouldn't want one of those huge .50cal ones though. :crazy

Be prepared for the fun of shooting!!

 

[azlan88]

Lee, you should get an assault rifle. Telling by the way things are going, I think that we can expect systematic disarmament of the nations' citizens within the next 7 years, so defend yourself.

 

[GojuBrian]

Lee, you should get an assault rifle. Telling by the way things are going, I think that we can expect systematic disarmament of the nations' citizens within the next 7 years, so defend yourself.

The military can only have assault rilfes. An assault rifle must have fully automatic capabilities. The ones the public can have are called SUR's 'sport utility rifles'. The new definition of assault rifle makes people's .22's seem evil,lol. ooooooohhhhhhhh.....

BTW, I'm willing to defend my home, but I'm not joiniing a militia against any form of government. That's not biblical. :naughty

 

[azlan88]

I'm not advocating anything, but the Constitution does assure the right of the people to overthrow their own government if it becomes too corrupt. But ever since Bush quietly signed a bill allowing the military to work within the U.S., then resistance, should it ever be needed, may have a very grim chance. But then the American militias didn't stand much of a chance against the British, either...

 

[GojuBrian]

The good Lord gave me common sense, a brain, and the tools.

The consequences of not using one or any of those is my own fault, not Gods.

I believe God wants me to use what he gave me.

 

[John]

good post

 

[tim-from-pa]

I was planning to buy a gun today. I have nothing to defend myself with.
What kind of gun should I get. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I was thinking on a desert eagle.

Just one?

I have a 12-gauge shotgun, unchoked. This way you can be a lousy shot and still get what you want. I used it for questionable animals out here in the country, such as skunks and raccoons that meander in broad daylight.

I have a smaller 22 gun for small animals. But I still need something for the pesty groundhogs. Ours are so fat that bullets just bounce off. I found sneaking up on them with the shovel is still better, which only goes to show that shovels are just as dangerous as guns and we should have shovel control and background checks.

 

[GojuBrian]

I was planning to buy a gun today. I have nothing to defend myself with.
What kind of gun should I get. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
I was thinking on a desert eagle.

Just one?

I have a 12-gauge shotgun, unchoked. This way you can be a lousy shot and still get what you want. I used it for questionable animals out here in the country, such as skunks and raccoons that meander in broad daylight.

I have a smaller 22 gun for small animals. But I still need something for the pesty groundhogs. Ours are so fat that bullets just bounce off. I found sneaking up on them with the shovel is still better, which only goes to show that shovels are just as dangerous as guns and we should have shovel control and background checks.

The whole'don't have to aim a 12guage' thing is just a myth. If your target is close, you better aim the gun or you'll miss.

 

[Sparkey]

I check this thread occasionally to see if there is any progress on your purchase?
My son likes Sig Sauer's and is an avid gun fan, and no, I don't think of him as a would be murderer

I'll go back and "catch up" with the thread - seems there are like 3 pages added since last I checked.

~Sparrowhawke

[EDIT]: After reading through the last several posts I'd like to ask what we think about brothers who take the Sword of Truth and hack each other to bits with it? I know that no murder has been committed but isn't there some general instruction about strife that governs such things? The balance is found also -- Iron is sharpened by iron, yes?

Like so many things that are argued about (and I argue too, don't get me wrong), I have mixed feelings within me and oftentimes see both sides. There is a certain love in me that is forming as I read different comments on this forum. Although I believe that I can lawfully protect myself and others from harm, & that if I am able to prevent harm from falling on others and withhold my hand - it is sin ... I also have great admiration for people who really follow after that Faith that Jesus had - where he did not resist evil and rather commended himself to God. I like the idea of resisting sin unto the shedding of blood (my own, not others of course).

Still, do we not know that He will return with a vengeance and with judgment? I think it is because of us that he will return with a sword. Rev 19 speaks of his eyes as a flame of fire and I've personally felt the fire in my eye. If I were in your house and somebody wanted to choose that place to commit a daylight robbery it would be in my heart to protect my loved ones against harm if possible. Still, I don't own any guns. It's a heart matter that we are speaking of, yes?

 

[GojuBrian]

I check this thread occasionally to see if there is any progress on your purchase?
My son likes Sig Sauer's and is an avid gun fan, and no, I don't think of him as a would be murderer

I'll go back and "catch up" with the thread - seems there are like 3 pages added since last I checked.

~Sparrowhawke

I think CZ's are better than sigs at a much better price.

I'm partial to sprindfield xd's.

p.s. the only thing I've killed with it is paper targets.

 

[Sparkey]

I think CZ's are better than sigs at a much better price.

I'm partial to sprindfield xd's.


p.s. the only thing I've killed with it is paper targets.

That's another very pretty weap. I'd have to feel it in my hand and fire it a couple time though.

Once I fired a 44 Mag (when I was young) and the thing went off and my hand went up (recoil) and there was such a BOOM --- my hand jerked up so hard that I hit myself in the forehead - It was the first time I shot a large caliber weapon (and I didn't have any instruction) -- I thought the bullet ricocheted off a rock or something, struck me in the head, the concussion of the sound confused me too and for a moment there I thought I had died!

My friends laughed when I picked myself up off the ground, visibly shaken.

That was my memory when I heard the OP mention a Desert Eagle - hopefully he didn't mean the 50 cal. I'll show your pic to my son and get his thoughts, he's probably fired one already.

~Sparrow

 

[GojuBrian]

I think CZ's are better than sigs at a much better price.

I'm partial to sprindfield xd's.


p.s. the only thing I've killed with it is paper targets.

That's another very pretty weap. I'd have to feel it in my hand and fire it a couple time though.

Once I fired a 44 Mag (when I was young) and the thing went off and my hand went up (recoil) and there was such a BOOM --- my hand jerked up so hard that I hit myself in the forehead - It was the first time I shot a large caliber weapon (and I didn't have any instruction) -- I thought the bullet ricocheted off a rock or something, struck me in the head, the concussion of the sound confused me too and for a moment there I thought I had died!

My friends laughed when I picked myself up off the ground, visibly shaken.

That was my memory when I heard the OP mention a Desert Eagle - hopefully he didn't mean the 50 cal. I'll show your pic to my son and get his thoughts, he's probably fired one already.

~Sparrow

I wouldn't advise anyone to fire a gun without proper instruction. Most gunshops will offer this or know someone who does. Especially a bigbore!!

I've seen that happen though,lol. The 500 S&W ported model has less recoil than the 44magnum.

I like all my weapons and treat them with respect. I see no difference in them and any other hobbies I might practice.

 

[Vic C.]

This thread is about a member asking for advice about which sort of gun to buy. It is not here for those who wish to debate whether or not owning a gun is "Christian". The thread is locked until I can restore it to reflect the purpose of the OP.

 

[Drew]

This thread is about a member asking for advice about which sort of gun to buy. It is not here for those who wish to debate whether or not owning a gun is "Christian". The thread is locked until I can restore it to reflect the purpose of the OP.

Suppose I started a thread asking readers to suggest good strip clubs to visit while in New York. Would such a thread be expunged of all posts that challenged the very legitimacy of my request?

I am interested to hear your response. Assuming that such a thread would either be deleted, or that posters would at least be allowed to challenge whether such a request is consistent with Christian principles, then why is the gun issue any different? If you argue that "going to strip clubs" is a violation of Christian principles and a discussion of which ones are good ones to attend is either not going to be allowed or that posters are allowed to challenge me on the desire to go to strip clubs in the first place, well, I trust you know what my response would be.......

 

[Vic C.]

Where is Minnesota and that "Circular reasoning" Avatar? There is no constitutional amendment in the US Constitution that ensures our right to visit strip clubs.

How about you please respect the wishes of the Staff and NOT challenge their decisions? Disrespecting authority is unBiblical and challenging the Staff is against the TOS. Of course I cannot and would not stop you from discussing this with proponents via PM, or...

... You are free to start a "Is buying a gun unBiblical?" There, you can discuss what you consider the Christian principles that you claim prove that owning a gun is unChristian. I will grant you the same respect and do my best to see it doesn't get hijacked, ok?

Personally, I won't own a weapon because of my deep personal pacifistic beliefs, but that does not give me the right to make that decision for another Christian, or for anyone? That's between them and God.

Happy Independence Day Drew!

 

[GojuBrian]

Lee,

Did you check our any shooting ranges where you can rent a gun? That'll give you the chance to get a feel for handguns without forking out the dough.

You can get a good home defense handgun like a taurus, ruger, cz, or some tyoe revolver for around $400. If you want a desert eagle .50, it'll cost you more than twice that.

 

[keekl]

Partial to Berettas myself~~it is all about the safety, it can't be said enough. From basic handling to shooting to cleaning; find someone to show you. Gun people tend to be very helpful folks